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Welcome back Rich Wicks.

Kissinger did publicly state this: " Kissinger says it was 'grave mistake' for Germany to take in so many migrants amid pro-Hamas protests"

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kissinger-says-grave-mistake-germany-take-so-many-migrants-amid-pro-hamas-protests

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Where would I be able to learn the truth about him? Of course there is the neocon version blasted on the media but we now know it's all an agenda under guise. Last eye opener for me is just recently seeing some discussion pop up about the real story of hurricane Katrina. That stuff has me at fatigue levels that shouldn't even be possible! I understand that the truth may only be had in small glimpses / tip-of-the-hand.

This is weird. The guy was most famous for his cucking to various Commie regimes. If anything, he should be popular among the worshippers of OGCL...

Right. Conflicting evidence so I want to sort it out and make an informed opinion simply because I never have. Full disclosure I was biased against before for little bits like your example.

Munger.
Kissinger.
Soros?

steverbeaver says

there is the neocon version blasted on the media

If he was anti-Trump, even the leftists would be praising him!

Karloff says

Munger.
Kissinger.
Soros?

hopefully soon

Welcome back, richwicks

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

Karloff says

Munger.
Kissinger.
Soros?

hopefully soon

Soros Jr has been at the White House over the last couple of years more than 25 times. He's taken over the operation from his dad.

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From what I read Munger had about 40% of his portfolio in B of A stock and about 40% in Wells Fargo stock. Maybe he got some bad news that triggered a hubris event.

He probably had information that would lead to the arrest of Hillary Clinton.

I bet Kissinger was jabbed.

I'm never in support of celebrating someone's death. No matter how many evils they unleashed on the world, and Kissinger unleashed a lot. But he's in hell right now, and nothing he or anyone else does can ever change that. He's finally gotten the justice he never got in life.

NuttBoxer says

I'm never in support of celebrating someone's death. No matter how many evils they unleashed on the world, and Kissinger unleashed a lot.

Eh, I'll agree to an extent. Certain people should be dead though. You can't always do eye for an eye type retribution, but if you actively kill another human with provable evidence, I don't think you should live. It's extremely easy to NOT kill someone. You just don't do it.

NuttBoxer says

But he's in hell right now, and nothing he or anyone else does can ever change that.

He'll either end up in a casket or cremated. Going to piss off the religious, but there is no heaven or hell. There's no actual proven evidence of it. You have fictional books written to control the chaos of the times and to also generate revenue for a business. He should have been "put down" before being able to live to 100. He's simply dead at this point and got to live a life after maiming and killing many for dumb ass reasons.

Wouldn't you want Kissinger on your team?

I think morality is more important than winning, if that's your angle...

Admiral Zumwalt recalls his conversations with Kissinger in his memoir:

Below I reproduce in full, unedited, the notes I took by hand in the back seat of my limousine on May 7, 1972:

K(issinger): I believe that the American people lack the will to do what is necessary to achieve strategic parity and maintain superiority at sea. I believe that we must get the best deal we can in our negotiations before the Soviets and the United States realize that these changes in the balance have occurred. Until such time as these ideas coincide and both sides understand that the United States has become inferior to the USSR, we must make the best deal we can. The Americans won't be too happy that I agreed to second place, but it will be too late.

Z(umwalt): Why not bring it out in front of the people? They will not agree to become second as long as our GNP is twice that of the USSR.

K: It's a matter of judgment. I believe that we will not get the support of the people, and if we seek it and report the facts the way we have to, we will lose leverage in negotiations with the Soviets.

Z.: But isn’t it the highest immorality in a democracy to make decisions of such importance for the people without consulting them?

K.: Perhaps, but I doubt that there are a million people who will be able to understand these issues at all.

Z: Even if this assumption is true, this million can influence the opinion of most people. I consider it my duty to take a different path.

K.: Be careful that your words do not lead to a reduction in the Navy budget. There are subtle types of retribution.

Fucking Kissinger always pushed the idea of American inferiority and always tried to cuck to the Commies at every turn.

More from Zumwalt's memoir on Kissinger's hard cucking to the Soviets:

I invited Kissinger to join the Navy party at the Army-Navy football game on November 28 in Philadelphia, and he accepted the invitation. [...] The notes I wrote by hand immediately after the end of this conversation are the best evidence of its contents:

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3) K. does not agree with the president that the American people can be resurrected. He emphatically states that the president misjudges people. K. believes that the United States, like many previous civilizations, has passed its highest historical point. He believes the US is in decline and cannot be revived by political challenges. He states that his job is to convince the Russians to give us the best deal we can still get, given that historical forces favor the Russians.

He says that he realizes that he will be recognized by history as one of those who negotiated terms favorable to the Soviets, but that the American people have only themselves to blame because they lack the fortitude to continue the course against the Russians, who represent "Sparta against our Athens."

I strongly objected to him, saying that I could not agree that a decision to give the Soviet Union superior capabilities in strategic or conventional fields should be made without public discussion of this issue before the people.

K. said: “No one will be re-elected to the presidency on a platform that admits that you are behind the times. Instead, you talk about the great partnership for peace that has been achieved during your term." He asked a series of questions about the probabilities that were brought to the attention of the President in August and the Sixth Fleet. He said he thought it was the smartest briefing the president has ever received from the Pentagon, but it's the type of factual information that needs to be kept from the public while we negotiate the best deal we can get.

So apparently the "realpolitik" method of negotiations with the Commies to "switch to their position 3/4 of the way":

The next morning, returning to the admiral's house, I made the following notes:

1. K. also emphasizes that, in his opinion, MIRVs and missile defense are inevitably linked in SALT and that we must freeze MIRVs if we want to freeze missile defense. (in which the US has always been so far ahead it's not even funny --EH)

2. Last August, K again expressed his pleasure at having managed to overpower the bureaucracy and preserve SALT. I pointed out that it is not difficult to achieve success in negotiations with the Russians if you switch to their positions. He smiled and said, “Only three quarters of the way.” I urged that we discuss each point with the Soviets longer and not act too quickly. K said, “Easy for you to say, you don’t have to run for re-election.”

Whom was this Kissinger guy was working for again?