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A better analogy would be this:

You sell your house for $500k to a man who got a loan from a bank that appraised that house for that $500k. The deal closes and everyone is happy. 5 years later you are hauled into court for fraud, since the tax assessment on the house was only $420k. The buyer and the bank testify that everything was fine, but the judge finds you guilty anyway and nails you with a $200k fine.

The breakdown of the dispute and law system in NYC under Dem/KommieKunt tutelege is making it clear that lawfare seizure of any business on the basis of twisted, corrupt officials is a trending. Businesses are taking note and seeing NYC as a place no longer to do business if they simply have corrupt commissars and printing press moronic legal printing press diploma implants deciding to lawfare them and seize their assets. Businesses might not enjoy law, but when it becomes arbitrary and unpredictable to the extent demonstrated by Trump's so called trial, they realize that there is no longer a functional legal infrastructure that they can trust to be either legal or fair.

@Patrick, your 'Choose File' button is no longer working on my computer for some reason.

Ceffer says

Patrick, your 'Choose File' button is no longer working on my computer for some reason.

@Ceffer - what operating system are you using, and what web browser? Patrick will need that to duplicate the problem. I may just be a glitch during updates as well. I run Linux, and I have it setup to do updates continuously, so every now and then my system breaks, then corrects itself a few hours later. Linux rarely requires reboots for system updates, even when the kernel is updated.

HeadSet says

A better analogy would be this:

You sell your house for $500k to a man who got a loan from a bank that appraised that house for that $500k. The deal closes and everyone is happy. 5 years later you are hauled into court for fraud, since the tax assessment on the house was only $420k. The buyer and the bank testify that everything was fine, but the judge finds you guilty anyway and nails you with a $200k fine.

Excellent analogy! That's exactly what this case is like.

Perhaps we can buy a stack of 1Oz American Gold Eagle from the US Mint for $2300each then sue the US Mint for fraud in this Judge's court and get back $2250 for each coin, because each coin has a face value $50 right on the coin itself (back side of the coin)! The Judge is deliberately conflating real market value vs. what the taxmen think they can reasonably assess and collect tax on without a tax revolt. Whenever there is a tax on asset value, unless it's cash or immediately marketable securities, there is usually a wide gap between market assessed value vs. tax assessment value. Most loans on houses and cars would not be possible if loans are capped by excise tax value: 4yr old cars are routinely assessed at 10% of MSRP in states that have excise tax on cars, whereas in reality most 4yr old cars are traded around 50% MSRP.

Ceffer says

Patrick, your 'Choose File' button is no longer working on my computer for some reason.

I am on a Mac. I will try later, rw said that it could be self correcting after updates (or something, I'm computer illiterate beyond the interface).

Ceffer says

Ceffer says

Patrick, your 'Choose File' button is no longer working on my computer for some reason.

I am on a Mac. I will try later, rw said that it could be self correcting after updates (or something, I'm computer illiterate beyond the interface).

Patrick uses a Mac I believe. He should be able to reproduce it soon, or it will correct itself in a hour or two.

Get the Brave web browser, It does away with advertisements.

@Ceffer What if you just reload the page, does it work then?

If you're on a Chromium-based browser (which is most browser at this point), you should be able to open the browser's javascript console with option-command-i (press all 3 keys at the same time).

If you manage to open the javascript console, it should show an error message of some kind. That would help me figure things out.

No, reloading doesn't help. I could show you the screenshot of the code?, but I can't upload it without the submit button.

A banner at the bottom says: "Third Party cookie phaseout warnings in Network and Application"

OK, restarting fixed it. Apparently, the browser was in some kind of unannounced update (I presume), and something got glitched. Sorry for the alarm, but it seems to be fixed with the reboot.

Ceffer says

OK, restarting fixed it

My best fix when I was a technician back in the '90's. Closely followed by plugging something in.

One time I had to drive 3 hours from La Jolla to El Segundo in morning traffic to troubleshoot a modem problem. We tried to troubleshoot the issue over the phone to no avail. I finally battle through LA rush hour get to the office only to find that the user has the phone line plugged into the ethernet port.

Yes, I have gotten into some special kind of stupid closed loops. Goes with the territory of having no coding. A bunch of funny letters and symbols rather than pretty pictures and all that.

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urgent-update-to-fridays-article

A New York appeals court has reduced the bond Donald Trump must post to appeal the civil fraud judgment against him to $175 million, giving him a crucial victory

Assuming Trump can post the $175 million bond, he will now be able to appeal the insane $464 million (and counting) penalty that Judge Arthur Engeron imposed on him last month. He will not face losing his properties until his appeal is heard.

Recall that Engeron’s ruling came for a “fraud” that Trump committed by taking out loans, then paying them back in full, with interest. Whatever one thinks of Trump, that decision was a travesty of justice and should frighten anyone who does business in New York. I suspect this is the first step in undoing it.

Patrick says

that decision was a travesty of justice and should frighten anyone who does business in New York

Yes, the businesses will be sure to kowtow bigly to Dems and never oppose them. "Want to donate to my campaign, or would you prefer to see my buddy Engoron?"

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/four-years-tuesday-march-26-2024

And, while the appellate court’s decision was good, it wasn’t great. Even a $175 million dollar bond in this case is outrageous. The good news is the amount — a third of the original — signals the court of appeals is leaning toward lopping the head of Judge Engoran’s ridiculous fine.

The appellate judges are probably thinking about the Constitutional issue.

Under the Constitution and settled Supreme Court law, punitive fines generally can’t exceed three times actual damages. Nor can they be so large as to bankrupt someone, or even “impose an undue financial burden on the individual.” Overlarge fines offend the Eighth Amendment’s prohibition of excessive fines. In a major recent case, Timbs v. Indiana (2019), the Court confirmed that the excessive fines clause of the Eighth Amendment applies to the States (not just the federal government), in both civil and criminal cases.

So that’s my best guess as to what the court of appeals had in view. That and politics. If it waived the bond requirement it would have been pilloried. Media doesn’t seem to know what to make of the $175 million bond, which is still a LOT, so they’re mostly ignoring it.

Assuming that Judge Engoran’s fine for “overestimating real estate” stands at all, it seems likely to be greatly reduced.

https://babylonbee.com/cleanArticle/4d-chess-trump-makes-mar-a-lago-worth-500-million-by-hanging-up-3-hunter-biden-paintings

Patrick says

It was worse than that. They have now set a precedence for anyone who gets a HELOC or reverse mortgage based on a home value greater than the tax assessment to be guilty of fraud. What happens when a house is bought with a mortgage that exceeds the tax assessment?

https://slaynews.com/news/judge-engoron-under-investigation-colluding-lawyer-trump-case/

Radical New York Judge Arthur Engoron has come under investigation over allegations that he colluded with a lawyer regarding the case he was overseeing against President Donald Trump.

A New York real estate attorney claims that he coordinated with Engoron in the case against Trump.

The New York State Commission on Judicial Conduct has launched a probe into the claim by Attorney Adam Leitman Bailey.

Bailey told WNBC-TV that he had a secret, off-the-record courthouse conversation with Engoron three weeks before the judge would slap Trump with a $454 million penalty for allegedly inflating the value of his assets.

New York judges are barred from considering outside opinions in such a way when litigating a case.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1844426831564505456

Excellent summary of the lawfare case against @realDonaldTrump that was just crushed by the NY Appellate.

Incredibly sensible questions by appellate judges had me in stitches

American justice system for the W.

Probably just like the crypto fuckup, the lawyers get to skate. After all, if lawyers turn on themselves, then all of a sudden, people get the idea that a lot of lawyers are proven scumbags.

Ref: Elzbeth Bathory (the "elite" can't publicly turn on their own, much less allow them to be degraded by the justice of the commoners/peasants).

Patrick says

Excellent summary of the lawfare case against realDonaldTrump that was just crushed by the NY Appellate.

Incredibly sensible questions by appellate judges had me in stitches

American justice system for the W.

It was still lawfare, designed to generate persecution, cost and embarrassment. I imagine Trump will sue for and win legal fees and damages. As the judges pointed out, it was election interference and thus treason. Of course, treason doesn't ring very many bells nowadays. The hideous and sociopathic excuse for a judge will likely be retired if not struck off.

The lawfare perpetrators were ordered to fall on their swords for this one. They should all be struck off and personally and individually sued. Hope the Freemason promotion was worth it.

Now that the appeals court has overturned the conviction, Trump gets his hundreds of millions back with ~8% interest paid by the PRNY. $175,000,000 X 0.08 = $14,000,000; prorate that for less than a year.

stereotomy says

Now that the appeals court has overturned the conviction

When did that happen? I cannot find it in the news.

HeadSet says

When did that happen? I cannot find it in the news.

exactly

Next chapter in this drama is Lietitia James being fined for taking this case to trial.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

HeadSet says

When did that happen? I cannot find it in the news.

exactly

The court hearing did happen but the verdict isn't out yet. The court day ended with the prosecution lawyers asking not to be sanctioned. So it's likey the appellate court will toss the judgement and Trump get his money back.