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Epstein List Delayed


               
2024 Jan 2, 7:20pm   54,523 views  1,659 comments

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Rudy W. Giuliani
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🚨 BREAKING NEWS: The Jeffrey Epstein Client List is now delayed until at least Jan. 22 after the court grants Jane Doe 107’s request for a 30-day extension claiming a "risk of physical harm in her country."

Yikes. It may never come out. Expect more of this.https://x.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1742380130486321587?s=20

Can't be Gislaine, she's in prison. Who? I'd say Kamala, but she's in DC.

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1618   Patrick   2025 Nov 19, 9:53am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/slow-then-all-at-once-wednesday-november


https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/11/18/metro/epstein-summers-wife-emails-harvard/

Harvard reported millions in
donations linked to Epstein. But it
didn't mention a major gift to Larry
Summers's wife.

I’ll interrupt the headlines with the email from Lisa New (Summers’s wife) to Jeffrey Epstein in December 2015—well after his sex-trafficking conviction. Epstein gave her a bunch of money for poetry. Behold:




Harvard did a whitewashing investigation and report on itself in 2020, absolving the school from any financial ties to Epstein. But the Boston Globe reported that the major gift from Epstein to Larry Summers’s wife, creating a “major” Harvard poetry project, wasn’t mentioned in the 2020 report at all. “The omission,” the Globe said, “raises new questions about the thoroughness of that investigation, which Harvard has repeatedly cited when asked about its connections to Epstein.”

Whoops. Another Harvard scandal.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/18/new-york-times-larry-summers-epstein-email


Publication said it will not renew former treasury secretary’s contract in latest fallout after release of emails

On Tuesday, Charlie Stadtlander, the New York Times’ executive director for media relations and communications, said: “Lawrence Summers was a contributing writer for New York Times Opinion on a one-year contract beginning in January 2025. We do not intend to renew this contract. We thank him for his contributions.” ...

The files showed that Summers maintained a years-long relationship with Epstein. In a email to Epstein on 16 March 2019, Summers discussed interactions he had with a woman, writing: “I said what are you up to. She said ‘I’m busy’. I said awfully coy u are.”

Epstein, who often wrote with spelling and grammatical errors, replied: “You reacted well.. annoyed shows caring. , no whining showed strentgh.”

In the same series of exchanges, Summers also asked for advice about when to contact the woman, to which Epstein dictated a message, saying: “Just send, happy for the time we spent together- have fun see you soon.”


Note that Summers is married to the same Lisa New mentioned in the poetry scandal, above. They married in 2005. But sketchy Mr. Summers sent his “wing man” emails seeking advice about seducing (“getting horizontal with”) his menteé— in November 2018. That is, while he was married.

Needless to say, the menteé is the daughter of a high-ranking CCP official. “U r better at understanding Chinese women than at probability theory,” Summers wrote Epstein. ...

Summers is now the highest-profile American wiped out by his Epstein connections— even with no proof of crimes. Just his gross-ness. ...

Finally, a whole raft of media heavyweights is surfacing as having wined, dined, or otherwise cozied up to the world’s most notorious pedophile after his 2008 conviction. The roster reads like a press-room who’s-who: ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, CBS’s Charlie Rose, Arianna Huffington, New York Times alum Michael Wolff, and America’s morning-show sweetheart, “perky” Katie Couric. ...

Don’t expect the media to cover it; professional courtesy runs deep. But the public is finally getting an unobstructed look at a grotesque menagerie of self-anointed elites who seem to prize money, status, and access far more than ethics. Indeed, Katie Couric herself made the point in a remarkable, Cassandra-like op-ed she posted yesterday, titled, “Why MAGA Is Obsessed With Epstein − and Why the Files Are Unlikely to Dent Loyalty To Trump.”

Couric interviewed Rutgers professor and “cultural anthropologist” Alex Hinton, who is plainly alarmed. He said, “if we go back to Pizzagate in 2016, there’s this MAGA conspiracy theory that there were Democratic elitists who were demonic forces who were sex-trafficking, and lo and behold, here’s Epstein doing precisely that.”

Professor Hinton then leaned into the theological framing: “If you look at notions of Christian morality, you also go to notions of innocence being afflicted by demonic forces. And it’s an attack on we the people by those elites; it’s a violation of rights. I mean, who isn’t horrified by the idea of sex trafficking? But again, especially in Christian circles, this is a huge issue.”

Remarkably, from the other side of the political spectrum, Professor Hinton agreed with C&C’s take: “I don’t think what is happening is indicative of a larger fracturing that’s going to take place with MAGA.” He even praised Trump’s abrupt reversal on Monday — agreeing to the Discharge Petition — as a strategic masterstroke. “He’s sort of like a chess player. He’s a couple of moves ahead of wherever, whatever’s running, and so in a way we’re always behind, and he knows where we are. It’s incredible that he’s able to do this.” ...

Did Trump know that, if he opposed disclosure, Democrats would jerk their knees and automatically take the opposite side? (Like always?)

Don’t miss this: Every single Democrat just voted to release the Epstein files. It is 100% bipartisan. So they can’t blame Trump for the collateral damage, or for doing it out of revenge, or anything else.


Interesting but not surprising that Summers was getting paid by the NY Times. They are so ridiculously far from being real journalists anymore, just Pravda for the Dem faithful.

Have to say that Epstein knew the right answers for Summers to give to that CCP woman. He must have read and understood all of https://heartiste.org/

It is starting to look like Trump's 180 on releasing the Epstein files was indeed calculated to get the Dems to unanimously demand their release.
1619   Patrick   2025 Nov 19, 10:53am  

https://sukwan.substack.com/p/november-19-midweek-memes/comment/179008777


I think their goal is to throw a few people to the media liions, and to protect many others who are probably writing very big checks right now.

Note that Bondi has opened cases on Clinton, Summers and some banker. Why now?

So that any info on them is labeled "classified" meaning these people have cover until Bondi some year from now says, case closed, nothing to see here.

Massie was quick to pick up on this, he also noted that the ONLY info that will be released is that labeled "unclassified" and he was concerned. See how that will work?

Also, just from a quick read of the emails released from/by his estate, it is clear that the sex trafficking was a small although very active part of his business. He was a world class money launder, weapons smuggler, blackmailer, seller of political favors, and above all, a top Mossad agent.

They will go to great lengths to cover up the Mossad connections and the most egregious of the sex/murders. But they have a very big problem; a great many people want those docs out, yes for the children involved, but primarily for what they reveal on Mossad.

Covering up the Mossad role will be amost impossible and THAT fact may bring down the AIPAC houseof cards. Here's hoping.
1620   Ceffer   2025 Nov 19, 12:59pm  

The chain of command reflex reactions between the botfarm political puppets and script readers can be predicted. Their AIs are shit for anticipation and regrouping. They are only good for venom and as lie spewing firehoses. The CIA Thesaurus for stock in trade catch phrases echoes through the botfarms and puppets. They lie louder and longer for Satan, but coherency isn't their strong suit, only hysterias.

1621   Ceffer   2025 Nov 19, 1:02pm  

The only real shame for the Satanists is not getting away with it. Otherwise, they are not ashamed of shit.

1623   Ceffer   2025 Nov 19, 1:14pm  

So, what other Dem sanctimonious frauds will wind up wearing the 'Epstein Red Letter' of doom?

1624   Ceffer   2025 Nov 19, 1:15pm  

LOL!

1625   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Nov 19, 1:16pm  

Trump only releasing unclassified files, real stuff got classified. Look at that hole.
1627   Ceffer   2025 Nov 19, 1:19pm  

Guess the Harvard Lawsters will still get their "Law and Edicts of Moloch" courses.

1629   Ceffer   2025 Nov 19, 4:12pm  

Revelation of the method is part of the method. At the end of it, they know you will understand their crimes in intricate detail, but will be powerless (and demoralized) because nothing will happen to them as a result. The perfect false flag ends with us too late knowing the false flag, but nobody gets indicted or punished because of it. You are helpless scum, they rule.

1631   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 19, 8:47pm  




Of course, it'll just be "There's a sekrit list and other stuff held back by the Admin/Congress!" going forward.
1632   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 19, 8:48pm  

Ceffer says

Revelation of the method is part of the method. At the end of it, they know you will understand their crimes in intricate detail, but will be powerless (and demoralized) because nothing will happen to them as a result. The perfect false flag ends with us too late knowing the false flag, but nobody gets indicted or punished because of it. You are helpless scum, they rule.

Or, just keep saying shit was held back, so you can use it as a demoralization hammer.
1633   Patrick   2025 Nov 19, 9:11pm  

I want the classified files, which are apparently not going to be released.

What exactly could be a national security threat about a pedophile and tax evasion facilitator?
1634   AD   2025 Nov 19, 9:33pm  

Patrick says

I want the classified files, which are apparently not going to be released.

What exactly could be a national security threat about a pedophile and tax evasion facilitator?


Could be Epstein talking shit about Trump which could put Trump in embarrassing circumstances dealing with the likes of Putin, Xi, etc.

Also could deal with CIA and Mossad as far as dealings with Epstein, and Epstein's clients.

My guess is Democrats like the Jewish American congressmen will try to make some deal with the Trump admin to protect Ehud Barak (a left wing former PM and Mossad operative) and Israeli interests. This would mean they cannot clamor that Trump admin is hiding the files to protect Trump.

But if they clamor then I hope Trump does release all the files which exposes Ehud Barak and other Democrats which may be a lot worse then what happened with Larry Summers.

I wonder if the exposure of Larry Summers was a warning shot by Trump.
1635   Patrick   2025 Nov 20, 8:54am  

https://ground.news/article/trump-signs-law-requiring-doj-to-release-epstein-files-within-30-days_31b725


On Wednesday, President Donald Trump signed a bill directing the U.S. Department of Justice to release unclassified Jeffrey Epstein files within 30 days.


Yup, it's all bullshit once again, and because of that, I'm 99% sure it's to protect Israel.


1638   Ceffer   2025 Nov 20, 10:08pm  

LOL!

1640   Patrick   2025 Nov 21, 10:40am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/making-lemonade-friday-november-21


There’s been much speculation about whether and how the DOJ will redact or retain documents. But remember, the discharge petition was drafted by the mercurial Thomas Massie, and it leaves Ms. Bondi with little wiggle room. You can read the one-page bill here. I’ll offer two observations.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/4405/text


Not later than 30 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Attorney General shall, subject to subsection (b), make publicly available in a searchable and downloadable format all unclassified records...


First, the longest section relates to what may and may not be retained (not disclosed) by DOJ, such as child sexual abuse material (CSAM), of which Epstein apparently was, not surprisingly, a collector, victims’ personal information, “properly classified” national security material, and information whose release would “jeopardize” ongoing investigations.

But —and this is key— all redactions and withholdings, for whatever reason, must be listed and explained in a separate “unclassified summary.”

Second, I’ll quote the very last requirement in full. The DOJ must deliver a report with this:

(3) A list of all government officials and politically exposed persons named or referenced in the released materials, with no redactions permitted under subsection (b)(1).

A list! In other words, even if we never get an Epstein client list, we might get a Massie “exposed persons” list. Imagine how much interest there is now to see the Massie List.

“The justice department now has 30 days to publicly share all information from federal investigations into Epstein,” the BBC reported.

Yesterday, Attorney General Pam Bondi repeatedly told the press the Department “will follow the law” and “adhere to the 30-day requirement” after the bill’s signing, while promising “maximum transparency.” At her news conference, she confirmed the release will occur within the required 30-day window, which suggests a deadline of December 19, 2025. Just in time for everyone to digest over the Christmas holidays. ...

Finally, and I hesitated to include this little nugget, but this tiny news item blossomed all over secondary media yesterday, even making as far as MedPage, which carried the clinical headline, “Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘Lemon’ Micropenis; Rough Flu Season? U.S. Measles Status.” Wait. Go back to the lemon thing.

https://nypost.com/2025/11/19/us-news/jeffrey-epstein-victim-describes-his-penis-as-extremely-deformed-lemon-shaped/

In a recent Substack interview with Tina Brown, Epstein victim Rina Oh dished the tea. “He had an extremely deformed penis,” she said curtly.

This is almost too much information, but stick with it.

“Some people have described it as the shape of an egg,” Oh continued, but “I think it was more of the shape of a lemon, and it was really small when it was fully erect. It was probably like two inches.” Ms. Oh did not say whether she was thinking of a Meyer lemon, a Sorrento, or some other variety, perhaps even a key lime.

The New York Post seized onto the story, at least the part that it could grab, and compared Epstein to, wait for it, Hitler, who has been long rumored to have had his own genetic predisposition to a shortened schnitzel.

Throughout one’s life, one collects odd scraps of information here and there. We lawyers may be exposed to some of life’s weirdest facts, especially those related to human beings and their various and sundry complaints against one another. One bizarre (and sort of alarming) fact to which I was once exposed —not personally, thank Heavens— is that the egg or lemon shape can be caused by a botched enlargement surgery, after fat is harvested from elsewhere on the body and injected into the male member’s shaft.

Complications can then result. The fat can melt down, lumping around the base of the shaft, ironically producing a shorter pickle than when the patient started. I don’t know how this information is directly useful, except that it might explain Epstein’s preference for paying for companionship.
1641   Patrick   2025 Nov 21, 11:29am  

https://slaynews.com/news/bill-hillary-clinton-threatened-arrest-defying-epstein-subpoenas/


House Oversight Chair James Comer (R-KY) issued his strongest warning yet to the Democrat elite, declaring that Bill and Hillary Clinton will be arrested if they refuse to testify or comply with congressional subpoenas in the expanding Jeffrey Epstein investigation.

Comer’s comments came during an interview with Real America’s Voice just hours after Congress overwhelmingly passed the Epstein Files Transparency Act, which President Donald Trump signed on Wednesday. ...

When asked whether the Clintons would face consequences for stonewalling, the Kentucky Republican didn’t hesitate.

“100%,” Comer said.

“They will receive the same treatment Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro received.”

That reference wasn’t subtle.

Bannon and Navarro, both current and former Trump administration officials, were aggressively pursued, indicted, perp-walked, and prosecuted by Democrats for refusing to comply with partisan January 6 Committee subpoenas.

Comer made it clear that those standards now apply to the Clintons.


Nice to hear, but I'll believe it when I see it.
1642   HeadSet   2025 Nov 21, 11:59am  

Patrick says

Nice to hear, but I'll believe it when I see it.

Ditto
1643   Patrick   2025 Nov 22, 12:54pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/clintons-ordered-testify-before-congress-person-epstein-probe/


Former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have been ordered to appear before Congress next month for closed-door depositions in the House Oversight Committee’s expanding investigation into Jeffrey Epstein.

The move comes after the Clintons’ attorney attempted to avoid their in-person testimony.

In a November 3 letter, the Clintons’ lawyer, David Kendall, asked Chairman James Comer (R-KY) to excuse the Democrat power couple from appearing, offering instead to submit “a written proffer of what little information” they claim to have about Epstein.

On Friday, Comer rejected that request outright and dropped the hammer, issuing formal orders requiring the Clintons to appear.
1644   Patrick   2025 Nov 23, 6:17pm  

https://x.com/Smokahontas2024/status/1992422736258318657


Thomas Massie is saying what the majority of us already know but few in Washington will admit. He argues that Israel wants to control what can and cannot be revealed in the Epstein files because both Israeli intelligence and the CIA have uncomfortable ties that full transparency would expose.

The American people aren’t naïve. We’ve known for a long time that something deeper was happening behind the scenes. And instead of doing the right thing and releasing the full truth, these intelligence agencies seem more focused on attacking the individuals calling for accountability. Massie says he and Marjorie Taylor Greene are being flooded with bots and paid operatives simply for opposing Israel’s war in Gaza and rejecting more foreign and military aid.



1645   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Nov 23, 8:32pm  

I saw that one Patrick. That was an informative interview. Opposing wars in America makes you massive enemies these days.
1646   Patrick   2025 Nov 25, 9:36am  

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/jeffrey-epstein-ariane-de-rothschild-ehud-barak-swiss-bank-israeli-cyberweapons


On July 31, 2019, just eleven days before Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in a Manhattan jail cell, his connection to the Rothschild banking dynasty became the subject of major public controversy.

Anonymous sources informed Bloomberg of a 2015 visit to Epstein’s New York mansion by baroness Ariane de Rothschild, the CEO of Edmond de Rothschild Group, a storied private bank and one of the largest Swiss financial institutions by assets under management. The bank’s spokesperson denied any relationship to the notorious American sex trafficker. Epstein was found dead on August 10, 2019.

Four years later, after Epstein’s meeting calendars were leaked to the Wall Street Journal, the bank finally admitted that de Rothschild had met with Epstein as part of her “normal duties at the bank between 2013 and 2019.” Epstein provided introductions to U.S. finance leaders and law firms and provided tax and risk consulting, the bank disclosed, while also helping de Rothschild personally on “a couple of occasions” with advice on estate management.


Lol, "estate management" means tax evasion.
1647   Ceffer   2025 Nov 25, 5:17pm  

"Arrest": the most overused word and underdeployed action in political life. I almost feel nauseated when I hear it because it is a chronic disinformation emotion meme. It is a waste of space and time to rat a tatt tatt this meaningless jargon.
1648   Patrick   2025 Nov 25, 6:55pm  

https://www.kunstler.com/p/sedition-before-tradition


Mr. Trump had a rough week working through his “divorce” from Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene. Both of them behaved rather badly; he the usual name-calling; she playing up to the cluster-B ignoramouses on The View, and then resigning from Congress in a snit (walking away from Daddy). The Epstein Files legislation she was twanging on the president about got passed in a flash and signed, but it contained rules that can easily be used to keep key documents suppressed. The suspicion will linger that it’s all about protecting Israel, and thereby stir-up continued animus against the Jews.
1649   Ceffer   2025 Nov 25, 7:13pm  

Alleged infrastructure diagram of Epstein Island. The submarine bay is at least true because Jizzlaine bragged about it and her TerraMar submarine piloting. As with many of these pedo places, there is more underground than above. No surface visibility for the 'shipments'.

1650   Patrick   2025 Dec 2, 2:12pm  

https://palexander.substack.com/p/truth-is-emerging-that-epstein-did


Twenty years after Jeffrey Epstein was exposed for his child sex abuse enterprise, the Justice Department this week made a startling revelation. Rather than the “dozens” of victims previously alleged by the government and media, Justice now says that there were “over one thousand” victims.

Everyone is talking about Epstein again, from MAGA types furious that the Trump administration is not producing a supposed client list, to the mainstream media, which is giddily mocking just about anyone critical of the Justice Department here as conspiracy theorists.




It’s as if no one in power wants to deal with the substance of this scandal: that an industrial scale child abuse operation was taking place right under the noses of the countless household names with whom Epstein socialized. Now those same household names are ever so happy to cast the battle as a war between conspiracy nuts and the sober-minded adults, completely gliding over the obvious indictment here of the very high society of which they are a part.

What the Epstein case shows is that powerful men preying on the very young is condoned by high society, whether they’re a Republican or Democrat, an American or an Afghan warlord. And that’s why prominent people, from the government to the news media, seem to want this to go away.

As for Trump’s law enforcers and self-styled truth tellers who claim to be ending an era of politicization of the FBI and intelligence? It is entirely possible that in all the material they possess, there is no information about the johns. That’s because decades ago, they weren’t told to go after the men, or they decided not to. Either way, that’s the true cover-up, that no one was predisposed to investigate the perpetrators beyond Epstein and his staff, not in the Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden or Trump administrations.
1651   Patrick   2025 Dec 2, 2:13pm  

It was dozens, about 83 dozen.
1655   Patrick   2025 Dec 4, 8:03am  

https://apnews.com/article/epstein-maxwell-justice-department-sex-trafficking-0a5b9a48f93460e94e44a31e7bf67715


One of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell ‘s most vocal accusers urged judges on Wednesday to grant the Justice Department’s request to unseal records from their federal sex trafficking cases, saying “only transparency is likely to lead to justice.” ...

Farmer and other victims fought for the passage of the law, known as the Epstein Files Transparency Act. Signed last month by President Donald Trump, it compels the Justice Department, FBI and federal prosecutors to release by Dec. 19 the vast troves of material they’ve amassed during investigations into Epstein.

The Justice Department last week asked Manhattan federal Judges Richard M. Berman and Paul A. Engelmayer to lift secrecy orders on grand jury transcripts and other material from Epstein’s 2019 sex trafficking case and a wide range of records from Maxwell’s 2021 case, including search warrants, financial records and notes from interviews with victims.

“Nothing in these proceedings should stand in the way of their victory or provide a backdoor avenue to continue to cover up history’s most notorious sex-trafficking operation,” McCawley wrote in a letter to the judges.

The attorney was critical of the government for failing to prosecute anyone else in Epstein and Maxwell’s orbit.

She asked the judges to ensure that the orders they issue do not preclude the Justice Department from releasing other Epstein-related materials, adding that Farmer “is wary” that any denial could be used “as a pretext or excuse” to withhold information.


Sales of paper shredders are no doubt very high lately.
1657   Ceffer   2025 Dec 5, 10:21pm  

There were photographs circulating on the internet of bloody mattresses from the lower chambers of the island, before they started scrubbing evidence (FBI). One can only speculate on the activities of the origins. I imagine that in any real forensic exam, any blood as such would have been tested and DNA done.

However, internet scrubbing and evidence destruction are major activities of the official entities these days. It goes hand in hand with the assassination-plex, too.

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