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The_Deplorable says

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTzDYtuJsSk

Jimmy Dore show is great!

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In the first term, supporting Trump felt like you had to be in a narrative war posture at all times.

You never knew when the next attack was coming, when it was all hands on deck to struggle against God knows what scam next.

Yep.

In the second term, Trump won a decisive election and has been a popular POTUS pursuing his agenda items, and Democrats have largely stuck to American political tactics rather than Soviet political tactics.

People have gotten bored, and others have gotten craven.

So, they've endeavored to fill the void with all of the same hysteria. This time, generated by them.

It isn't Russiagate onto Ukrainegate onto Stormy Daniels onto COVID.

No.

Now it's Tariffgate onto Irangate onto Jeffery Epstein onto... good lord, I don't want to know.

https://x.com/SuitablePolitic/status/1943881561067180451

High percentage of our leaders are captured. The distractions are really being ramped up as the illusions weaken. Hopium and theories aside, right now we were all lied to about the truth coming out about what horrible thing our government and it's "allies" have done. I'm am happy about a lot of the things Trump has done and will take wins whenever they come. This Epstein pedo corruption touches a special nerve against humanity that most decent people are not going to let go, the more they try to cover it up the worse it's going to get.

RC2006 says

This Epstein pedo corruption touches a special nerve against humanity that most decent people are not going to let go, the more they try to cover it up the worse it's going to get.

Maybe the Democrats can do something about it? Any "list" that has kind of come out is filled with rich Democrats and a former POTUS. They clearly are not cooperating with any investigation. Shift blame.

Can't just defame people without proof and victims. Puts Trump in a tough spot on a masterfully planned sex and trafficking ring. I know Trump said he'd release stuff, but put it back on Biden. He supposedly "died" August of 2019. Biden had 4 years. Now Dems are trying flare up an internal fight with MAGA folks and they're biting. Everything happened under Democrats.

They're fooling a lot of you cats and you're biting. Push it back on Dems. Flight logs mean shit, but they were mostly Dem or left leaning flying on his plane. They're the ones covering it up. Make the Dems answer to Epstein and Maxwell going to jail and the judges. Maybe the Dems are cock blocking the release of it via procedure or some other way to do that.

Why is Dick Durbin retiring? He'd win another term and could appoint the next Senator, well JB technically. Much of Epstein's stuff happened during Obama's terms and while he was in office. The way I'm looking at this is it's a Dem problem and MAGA and even RINO's need to blame them. Start fighting for once as an entire party. Dems are already knocked out, it's time for some ground and pound and finish them.

WookieMan says

Biden had 4 years. Now Dems are trying flare up an internal fight with MAGA folks and they're biting. Everything happened under Democrats.

They're fooling a lot of you cats and you're biting. Push it back on Dems. Flight logs mean shit, but they were mostly Dem or left leaning flying on his plane.

YUP.

https://dailycaller.com/2025/07/11/were-going-to-lose-steve-bannon-warns-withholding-epstein-files-would-doom-gop/

PanicanDemoralizer says

WookieMan says

Biden had 4 years. Now Dems are trying flare up an internal fight with MAGA folks and they're biting. Everything happened under Democrats.

They're fooling a lot of you cats and you're biting. Push it back on Dems. Flight logs mean shit, but they were mostly Dem or left leaning flying on his plane.

YUP.

If your going to say this is all a one side thing then your as bad as the left. Yes the left tries to normalize it, but this issue is on both sides, it's of a uniparty issue. This shit has been going on forever across both sides. Both sides are trying to cover it up. Even the excuse that the people involved are so powerful their being exposed could cause collapses, will then so be it let shit collapse because doing nothing just expands it to an inevitable end anyways.

https://dailycaller.com/2025/07/11/pam-bondi-jeffrey-epstein-jail-footage-maga-trump-administration/

https://dailycaller.com/2025/07/11/megyn-kelly-donald-trump-pam-bondi-jeffrey-epstein-files-doj/

Its ridiculous to defend Trump and his administration on this subject and anyone that does is no better than how the crazy left cult defend it's side. Normal people not left or right have been blatantly lied to by by Trump and his administration. We were straight up told thousands of hours of video, lists, ect then all of a sudden nothing to see here just forget anything said the last six months. Just looking at their facial expressions as they try to blow this off seems extremely off.

Patrick says

PanicanDemoralizer says

Well, Epstein's own attorney and falsely accused by Epstein victims, DERSH, says there is tons of documents that came out in discovery and are being surpressed... and he wants it all out because there's a lot of false accusations that won't stand scrutiny.

My own impression is that Dershowitz was almost but not quite captured. Seems to have had a topless underage girl on his lap, but claims he had sex with nobody, and that might be true.

Perhaps he couldn't get it up. Viagra wasn't approved for ED until 1998.

As an aside it was originally intended to be a heart medicine but during clinical trials men noticed an unusual "side effect"

I took a tour of the Pizer headquarters at the time in Groton, CT back during my undergrad years. Back before big pharma was "Big Pharma (TM)"

RC2006 says

We were straight up told thousands of hours of video, lists, ect then all of a sudden nothing to see here just forget anything said the last six months

Here's one reason: They're sealed under judges orders.

Another: They exist, but can't be found.

Or: They've been a mix of tampered with, hidden, destroyed or sealed and Trump doesn't want our enemies to know how renegade our Counterintel is.

PanicanDemoralizer says

They've been a mix of tampered with, hidden, destroyed or sealed

The longer they wait, the more plausible deniability there is given were in the age of AI deep fakes and fake news.

Allan Dershowitz is an odd hero but I'll take it. My gut tells me he's telling the truth on this one and I can't explain why.

RC2006 says

thousands of hours of video

Could just be empty rooms on video. When an act happened Epstein transferred the video out of country and deleted it wherever the location was. You cannot be that stupid to just keep it on location. My cameras record 20 min files and then starts a new file. We could be on vacation for a week, empty house and there would be thousands of files for just 6 cameras.

They then overwrite after two weeks, so I don't need some server rack with petabytes of data. You grab the blackmail file and send it to a server in a non-extradition country. I'd have 6,000 files in 2 weeks and might not even be home. I figured a lot of the tech guys here would know this.

So this thousands of "videos" is nonsense. Not to be crude, but I have my own videos with my wife. Encrypted mini sd not connected to the internet or computer and not at my house. It's easy to hide something the size of a penny or less anywhere. These videos are BS in my opinion. And if anything it's just Epstein or Maxwell doing a 3 some with a minor. Sick, but you can't just implicate a bunch of people. Trust me I'd love to see Clinton in jail and the others. It's not gonna happen.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbis-raw-epstein-prison-video-was-likely-doctored-wired

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/no-one-believes

The_Deplorable says

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbis-raw-epstein-prison-video-was-likely-doctored-wired

All videos are doctored. I don't know what planet people have been living on. This has been done since the 1950's and probably before. All media is doctored. All surveillance cameras are doctored before they get to authorities. This is why nothing happens with the Epstein files. I want something to happen, I'm just being realistic. Nothing will happen. They don't have legit evidence, just stuff that doesn't implicate anyone because the house keeper from cleaning the room.

Patrick says

Feels kind of AI generated to me.

Yeah, hard to tell anymore these days. I think it's fake. Why not just list all the damn names and actions in one go instead of some multiple data drop BS.

The_Deplorable says

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fbis-raw-epstein-prison-video-was-likely-doctored-wired

I worked with pro style surveillance cameras. They record in a proprietary codec that cannot be edited. The original can be copied to a format like MP4 that can be edited, but no serious investigator or court will accept a video that is not in that original uneditable format. Even so, it is easy to tell when an MP4 (or other codec) has been modified. I presume they determined that Adobe Premiere was used by looking at compression artifacts. Only a fool would present an edited video and try to pass it off as raw footage, especially from a pro surveillance system. Too easy to catch.

HeadSet says

Only a fool would present an edited video and try to pass it off as raw footage, especially from a pro surveillance system. Too easy to catch.

You'd be surprised. What you say is correct, but there's incompetence everywhere. Remember a lot of jobs are nepotism. They might not have the qualifications to understand what you just wrote. Wouldn't know how to discover it was edited regardless of format. A judge won't know. An attorney won't know. And the person that hands off the evidence might not know the tech because someone got them a job they didn't know how to do.

Put this way in a realm I know. Everyone likely has goofed off on a drum set. That doesn't make them a drummer. It takes thousands of hours to know what you're doing. Video editing is way more complicated than the average person knows. I only have one personal friend that would know. I actually wouldn't know, but I know enough to question if it was edited. And from there get a legit expert.

https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/jeffrey-epsteins-brother-breaks-silence

Mark Epstein, brother of the late Jeffrey Epstein, dismissed a bombshell memo from the Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation that declares the disgraced financier’s 2019 death a suicide, accusing the government of covering up the truth. ...

“Every time they say something or try to do something to quash that he most likely was murdered, they put their foot further in their mouth,” Mark Epstein said in an interview with NewsNation host Chris Cuomo. “When Kash Patel came out with that statement, I laughed at how stupid it was.” ...

On Tuesday, Trump himself brushed off questions about Epstein during an exchange with reporters.

“Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy’s been talked about for years,” Trump said, while taking questions during a Cabinet meeting.

“You’re asking – we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things, and are people still talking about this guy? This creep? That is unbelievable. I mean, I can’t believe you’re asking a question on Epstein at a time like this, where we’re having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration.”

WookieMan says

"All videos are doctored."

Nonsense. The metadata of the video proved that the Epstein prison video
is a fabrication.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EaTOl2uO1o

WookieMan says

Wouldn't know how to discover it was edited regardless of format. A judge won't know. An attorney won't know. And the person that hands off the evidence might not know the tech because someone got them a job they didn't know how to do.

WookieMan says

I only have one personal friend that would know. I actually wouldn't know, but I know enough to question if it was edited. And from there get a legit expert.

What are you saying? That nobody in your state except you is smart enough to seek an expert to examine whether a video was edited? Not even judges and attorneys? Experts are at every TV station, independent production house, and at college broadcast journalism departments.

HeadSet says

What are you saying? That nobody in your state except you is smart enough to seek an expert to examine whether a video was edited? Not even judges and attorneys? Experts are at every TV station, independent production house, and at college broadcast journalism departments.

Not my state. Everywhere. You guys have too much faith in people or assume they truly know what they're doing. I can and have built websites for small companies. Doesn't mean I know the details of it at all and don't know much of anything about website building. But I can make one that looks better than the pros.

I can record a drum track with 16 mics in my home. I go by what sounds good. I don't care about the file format or anything.

I've edited plenty of video. Doesn't mean I know what I'm doing. Most don't know the technical details and just use software and make it look good. 90% of TV stations don't have "experts" they have people that can edit. My SIL was broadcast and metrology dual major and worked for a network. We visited the studio with the kids. Everyone was a moron there. Where talking a big 4 network. Not gonna dox myself.

Maybe Bongino will step down and Kash can get a better deputy that knows how to run things. That's really the deputy job and Dan seems to be in way over his head. Maybe pick a former FIB employee who left as a whistle blower who knows how things work. And then they can circle back and give a more detailed explanation as to why they believe what they are saying.

All the people who collected the original evidence, etc., in one big transparency media event. Get into the details. Were they unable to identify any of the Johns and if not why not. ETC. ETC. ETC.

Today I heard someone say:

Democrats think Democracy is whatever it is that they like. Republicans think transparency is whatever it is that they like.

To me it looks like one of the biggest gaslighting events I've ever seen except maybe the covid cover up.

RWSGFY says

Looks like they both caved and sold out at the first opportunity.

Patrick says

Looks like they both caved and sold out at the first opportunity.

I don't know. I think Trump promised it and they got in and there's nothing there. Bondi slipped up and said the files were on her desk. What files? Video? Paper documentation? Or just files of Epstein and Maxwell trafficking people? They were already found guilty. It literally might have just been for themselves. Kash and Bongino are probably like, shit, we can't deliver.

I have no issue looking at young women and girls of a young age, clothed. Stops there. I think that most men are in this camp. There are plenty of 22 year old legal hotties out there. Outside of STD potential they know their game in the bed. Most the people on the potential "list" have money. They didn't get their money being stupid and risking jail time screwing minors when you can just walk onto a college campus or bar.

What's missing from Trump's official issues list?

What's missing from Trump's official issues list?

21) Bomb Israels' enemies

Dan Bongino is full of shit and can take a hike.

How would a person who wanted Epstein dead accomplish it? He or she (Hillary?) would have to pay a gazillion bucks to the guards to open the cell and turn off cameras, and of course, keep their mouths shut.

How would the loser guards hide that bribe? Have any of you guys tried to sneak $10,000+ into a bank account?

Would those loser guards keep quiet or would they start flaunting their new wealth?

Would the people who wanted Epstein locked up not have spies observing the guards' every move?

If someone wanted Epstein dead so badly, why? Was he afraid Epstein would talk about something he had not already said?

Would not Epstein have spilled his guts not to be thrown in jail? What "new" stuff would Epstein disclose?

If the person who wanted Epstein dead were on some "list" or other, this "list" is already out of his hands anyway.

The girls were not forcibly raped; girls in high school are fucking and some of them like money.

Some girls like old dudes who have money; look at Jordon Hudson and numerous others.

I have met girls young enough to be my granddaughter; one said she felt "safe and secure" around me; of course it means I don't bother her and buy lunch or dinner and send her around in an Uber.

The reason for the secrecy is that during the Epstein shitstorm in Florida, the identity of the girls was protected for a lot of reasons.

Some of those girls didn't come from a ghetto, rather Palm Beach and West Palm Beach.

Why?

Why?

clambo says

Dan Bongino is full of shit and can take a hike

clambo says

If someone wanted Epstein dead so badly, why? Was he afraid Epstein would talk about something he had not already said?

Would not Epstein have spilled his guts not to be thrown in jail? What "new" stuff would Epstein disclose?

If the person who wanted Epstein dead were on some "list" or other, this "list" is already out of his hands anyway.

The girls were not forcibly raped; girls in high school are fucking and some of them like money.

Some girls like old dudes who have money; look at Jordon Hudson and numerous others.

I have met girls young enough to be my granddaughter; one said she felt "safe and secure" around me; of course it means I don't bother her and buy lunch or dinner and send her around in an Uber.

The reason for the secrecy is that during the Epstein shitstorm in Florida, the identity of the girls was protected for a lot of reasons.

Some of those girls didn't come from a ghetto, rather Palm Beach and West Palm Beach.

Very good points Clambo, I touched on some of this earlier in the thread, but what you are saying is the accusations don’t pass the sniff test. It’s seems you are exactly right. People (including the girls) are being protected from embarrassment for their disgusting sex lives, but that doesn’t mean there is evidence enough to prosecute a long list of sexual deviants for statutory crimes. And if the girls (now long since Who have become adults perhaps with kids of their own) don’t want to testify they should not have to. So who is going to testify what happens behind closed doors if not the John or the Jane? And if the girls don’t want the videos released then that is their right as well. This is a disgusting chapter of American history, but can we put it to rest already?