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I did not intend to spend another day trying to follow the Epstein-Trump-MSM-MAGA morality play, but I did.
Like a prisoner with a bowl of morning slop, I obligingly read about the alleged 50th birthday card from Trump to Epstein, reported in the WSJ, and read the words Trump either did or did not write. Next thing you know, I was trying to “understand,” what was “going on,” and what it all might mean.
To MSM, it was nothing short of the whale harpooning finale, almost with blood splashing onto screens.
Their amygdala driven excitations are more and more disturbing by the hour. Can’t they even feign being not quite so excited over a political kill? (It is the sum total of all previous kills thwarted—) ...
Exceptionally inscrutable and impossible to “understand” except as a form of neo-American Monarch mind control, in which you’re supposed to glean horror from a cryptic text the President may have written to his then “pal” Jeffrey Epstein 22 years ago.
But first, one would have to de-encrypt it, no?
It does not sound like Trump, but who knows? ...
The president denied writing the letter. When the Journal reached out to Trump for
comment, he said: "This is a fake thing. It's a fake Wall Street Journal story."
Shortly after the report was published Thursday evening, Trump threatened to sue...
There is actually one very interesting writer who scaled the mountain top on this story, whose name never comes up. He cracked the essence of the story, then sort of disappeared.
I remembered him today, and looked up the piece that left such an impression on me when I first read it years ago.
Leland Nally.
Nally called every single number (2,000—) in the “little black book,” (which held Epstein’s and Maxwell’s combined contacts) and one of the people who answered—Stuart Pivar—gave him a stunning, poignant, at time unintentionally funny yet also deeply tragic rant. ...
https://www.motherjones.com/author/leland-nally/
According to a ruling by US District Judge Kenneth Marra in February 2019, “from between about 1999 and 2007, Jeffrey Epstein sexually abused more than 30 minor girls…at his mansion in Palm Beach, Florida, and elsewhere in the United States and overseas.” The ruling goes on to describe a child sex ring: “In addition to his own sexual abuse of the victims, Epstein directed other persons to abuse the girls sexually. Epstein used paid employees to find and bring minor girls to him. Epstein worked in concert with others to obtain minors not only for his own sexual gratification, but also for the sexual gratification of others.”
Robert Maxwell led a flamboyant lifestyle, living in Headington Hill Hall in Oxford, from which he often flew in his helicopter, or sailing in his luxury yacht, the Lady Ghislaine, named after his daughter Ghislaine. Maxwell was litigious and often embroiled in controversy. In 1989, he had to sell successful businesses, including Pergamon Press, to cover some of his debts. In 1991, his body was discovered floating in the Atlantic Ocean, having apparently fallen overboard from his yacht. He was buried in Jerusalem.
Maxwell's death triggered the collapse of his publishing empire as banks called in loans. His sons briefly attempted to keep the business together, but failed as the news emerged that the elder Maxwell had embezzled hundreds of millions of pounds from his own companies' pension funds. The Maxwell companies applied for bankruptcy protection in 1992. After Maxwell's death, large discrepancies in his companies' finances were revealed, including his fraudulent misappropriation of the Mirror Group pension fund.[3]
For those who have examined Epstein’s ties to intelligence, there are clear links to both U.S. intelligence and Israeli intelligence, leaving it somewhat open to debate as to which country’s intelligence apparatus was closest to Epstein and most involved in his blackmail/sex-trafficking activities. A recent interview given by a former high-ranking official in Israeli military intelligence has claimed that Epstein’s sexual blackmail enterprise was an Israel intelligence operation run for the purpose of entrapping powerful individuals and politicians in the United States and abroad.
In an interview with Zev Shalev, former CBS News executive producer and award-winning investigative journalist for Narativ, the former senior executive for Israel’s Directorate of Military Intelligence, Ari Ben-Menashe, claimed not only to have met Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged madam, Ghislaine Maxwell, back in the 1980s, but that both Epstein and Maxwell were already working with Israeli intelligence during that time period.
In an interview last week with the independent outlet Narativ, Ben-Menashe, who himself was involved in Iran-Contra arms deals, told his interviewer Zev Shalev that he had been introduced to Jeffrey Epstein by Robert Maxwell in the mid-1980s while Maxwell’s and Ben-Menashe’s involvement with Iran-Contra was ongoing. Ben-Menashe did not specify the year he met Epstein.
Ben-Menashe told Shalev that “he [Maxwell] wanted us to accept him [Epstein] as part of our group …. I’m not denying that we were at the time a group that it was Nick Davies [Foreign Editor of the Maxwell-Owned Daily Mirror], it was Maxwell, it was myself and our team from Israel, we were doing what we were doing.” Past reporting by Seymour Hersh and others revealed that Maxwell, Davies and Ben-Menashe were involved in the transfer and sale of military equipment and weapons from Israel to Iran on behalf of Israeli intelligence during this time period.
He then added that Maxwell had stated during the introduction that “your Israeli bosses have already approved” of Epstein. Shalev later noted that Maxwell “had an extensive network in Israel at the time, which included [the later Prime Minister] Ariel Sharon, according to Ben-Menashe.”
Ben-Menashe went on to say that he had “met him [Epstein] a few times in Maxwell’s office, that was it.” He also said he was not aware of Epstein being involved in arms deals for anyone else he knew at the time, but that Maxwell wanted to involve Epstein in the arms transfer in which he, Davies and Ben-Menashe were engaged on Israel’s behalf. ...
After having been introduced to Epstein, Ben-Menashe claimed that neither he nor Davies were impressed with Epstein and considered him “not very competent.” He added that Ghislaine Maxwell had “fallen for” Epstein and that he believed that the romantic relationship between his daughter and Epstein led Robert Maxwell to work to bring the latter into the “family business” — i.e., Maxwell’s dealings with Israeli intelligence. This information is very revealing, given that the narrative, until now at least, has been that Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein did not meet and begin their relationship until after Robert Maxwell’s death in 1991, after which Ghislaine moved to New York.
Ben-Menashe says that well after the introduction, though again he does not specify what year, Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein began a sexual blackmail operation with the purpose of extorting U.S. political and public figures on behalf of Israeli military intelligence. He stated:
In this case what really happened, my take on it, in the later thing, is that these guys were seen as agents. They weren’t really competent to do very much. And so they found a niche for themselves — blackmailing American and other political figures.”
He then confirmed, when prompted, that they were blackmailing Americans on behalf of Israeli intelligence. ...
In addition, when Shalev asked Ben-Menashe about the relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, Ben-Menashe stated “After a while, you know, what Mr. Epstein was doing was collecting intelligence on people in the United States. And so if you want to go to the U.S. if you’re a high-profile politician you want to know information about people.” Ben-Menashe subsequently stated that Barak was obtaining compromising information (i.e., blackmail) that Epstein had acquired on powerful people in the United States.
How do you know they have sufficient evidence to prosecute anyone else? Having a flight log to Epstein Island isn't enough.
porkchopXpress says
I don't think that's even remotely legal or appropriate to do.
What about just arresting the perps for rape?
The DOJ said they didn't have sufficient evidence to prosecute anyone else.
I think Trump or Bondi is now claiming that only Epstein abused all those girls, but a court found otherwise even back in 2019.
Patrick says
The DOJ said they didn't have sufficient evidence to prosecute anyone else.
I think Trump or Bondi is now claiming that only Epstein abused all those girls, but a court found otherwise even back in 2019.
Musk, 54, posted about Epstein 13 times in just over an hour on Wednesday afternoon. He followed this by firing off another barrage of tweets about the subject from Wednesday afternoon into the early hours of Thursday morning, barely taking a break between posts.
“It’s a cover up (obviously),” he said in response to a tweet from a large conservative account, which referenced President Trump’s recent rebuke of the matter by saying: “It’s not a hoax.”
Asked in another post from a large right-wing account whether he thinks anyone will be “held accountable,” Musk responded: “I sure hope so. This is a fundamental verdict on justice in America.” ...
On Wednesday, Musk shared an image of one of the binders and asked: “Where is Phase 2?” He also asked for evidence collected from Jeffrey Epstein’s mansion, as well as digital evidence. ...
When Musk queried Grok about whether the U.S. government holds electronic records of who visited Epstein’s private island, Grok answered yes. He then asked if the government has “a list of all unaccompanied minors on those flights, along with a list of all adults on those flights.”
It again answered yes, saying that early DOJ files reported 250 abused girls. The bot then said that an “exhaustive review” of the recent memo that identified over 1,000 victims.
“Over 1000 confirmed young victims is a shockingly large and tragic number! In order for the government to confirm that the girls were victimized, they would have had to name or at least describe who raped them,” Musk replied to his bot.
“This would necessarily mean that the government MUST have the list of rapists aka ‘the Epstein client list’ in their possession right fucking now!”
Explaining his motivations for the latest posting spree, Musk said in an earlier tweet: “We were all told that the list was going to be released.”
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1945732060775117136
He said in a separate message: “So many powerful people want that list suppressed.”
How do you know they have sufficient evidence to prosecute anyone else? Having a flight log to Epstein Island isn't enough
Does anyone else find it weird that Steven Hawking went to "Pedophile Island" along with others like Prince Andrew?
Unless you have evidence to state otherwise, there's nothing more to be done.
porkchopXpress says
Patrick says
The DOJ said they didn't have sufficient evidence to prosecute anyone else.
I think Trump or Bondi is now claiming that only Epstein abused all those girls, but a court found otherwise even back in 2019.
that was the DoJ that gave him sweetheart deal because “he’s intelligence”
I have no idea. None of us do. Why do we assume Epstein was filming powerful people have sex with minors?
porkchopXpress says
How do you know they have sufficient evidence to prosecute anyone else? Having a flight log to Epstein Island isn't enough
Videos? Photos?
Why do we assume Epstein was filming powerful people have sex with minors?
Thanks for explaining. I didn't realize that.
porkchopXpress says
Why do we assume Epstein was filming powerful people have sex with minors?
Because his houses were wired with cameras, and the girls testified that he was filming the men having sex with them, and the FBI took a lot of video evidence from his houses, and because Mossad officer Ari Ben-Menashe explicitly said that Epstein was collecting those videos to use for blackmail.




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🚨 BREAKING NEWS: The Jeffrey Epstein Client List is now delayed until at least Jan. 22 after the court grants Jane Doe 107’s request for a 30-day extension claiming a "risk of physical harm in her country."
Yikes. It may never come out. Expect more of this.https://x.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1742380130486321587?s=20
Can't be Gislaine, she's in prison. Who? I'd say Kamala, but she's in DC.