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REpro says

We can have budget for everything we want. It is just about priorities. Military industry cannot make money if government is building walls, houses for veterans or homeless people. This is how "OUR" democracy works.

yep, can still maintain strategic forces like Virginia class nuclear submarines with nuclear cruise missiles and torpedos and prioritize spending ...

they can slow the growth of the pentagon budget to 2% below annual inflation and still maintain readiness

I say also slow growth for other government spending as well to slightly below inflation

that is how you can avoid a debt crisis just like a household slightly reduces spending and deposits the savings into retirement account

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Eman says

Who the hell uses FB for 'real news' anyway?

If that is true, then how come the Crimea and Eastern Ukraine are now part of Russia? No Answer!

WookieMan says

"How come Russia has lost multiple naval assets in a non-water war and had a bridge blown up?"

Says who? CNN? That is Fake News and propaganda. And the bridge in the Crimea had only a very minor damage and was back in service within hours.

"We are at war with Russia. "

No we are not. The neoCon Globalist Nazis were at war with Russia and they were defeated massively and decisively. Right now the Ukraine military is collapsing and unconditional surrender seems to be their only option.

You guys seriously don't get what is going on. The goal is a war of attrition with Russia to kill Russians. Ukraine is the pawn. 2 years deep and it will probably be another 8 years. This will be a regional conflict for a decade. It already has been since 2014 technically. The US goal isn't to win. I"ve NEVER said Ukraine would win. The goal is to weaken Russia in a proxy war and that is 100% happening. Destroying them demographically. This is 6th grade shit guys.

This Is HUGE. Putin Exposes The CIA.

Candace Owen's take on the Putin interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BdtMv-vyn0&t=4s

Tucker talks in Dubai about the Putin interview.

https://tuckercarlson.com/the-dubai-speech/

WookieMan says

You guys seriously don't get what is going on. The goal is a war of attrition with Russia to kill Russians. Ukraine is the pawn. 2 years deep and it will probably be another 8 years. This will be a regional conflict for a decade. It already has been since 2014 technically. The US goal isn't to win. I"ve NEVER said Ukraine would win. The goal is to weaken Russia in a proxy war and that is 100% happening. Destroying them demographically. This is 6th grade shit guys.

This is exactly a strategy that will never work. Its the US that has already been diminished. Russia is stronger and has Chinas full backing. This "war" is all about defense contractor $. The US is in no way prepared for this. We dont even mine our natural resources. Oil pipelines were shut down. Our military leaders are jokes. There are not 8 more years of Ukrainians to sacrifice. And why? Whats the Russian issue? Are they worse than us? Lybia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, the list goes on of failed US offenses.

US is weak with weak people sadly. And yes Im an American the left socal.

And in the 2000s I had offices in both Moscow and Kiev so I do have an understanding of these countries.

keeprubbersidedown says

And in the 2000s I had offices in both Moscow and Ukraine so I do have an understanding of these countries.

Yep. Agreed. It's sad because the patriotic thing to do would be to restore the US to its old glory where its metropoles could not only compete with those of the rest of the world, but actually outshine them, instead of putting your head in the sand chanting "USA! USA!" while they run it into the ground ;)

keeprubbersidedown says

This is exactly a strategy that will never work. Its the US that has already been diminished. Russia is stronger and has Chinas full backing. This "war" is all about defense contractor $. The US is in no way prepared for this. We dont even mine our natural resources. Oil pipelines were shut down. Our military leaders are jokes. There are not 8 more years of Ukrainians to sacrifice. And why? Whats the Russian issue? Are they worse than us? Lybia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Vietnam, Korea, the list goes on of failed US offenses.

US is weak with weak people sadly. And yes Im an American the left socal.

Depends. Yes its weak compared to the troops sent to Vietnam. But the Pentagon figures that there won't be 50,000 boots on the ground like in combat zones of Vietnam.

They figure for a more asymmetric warfare strategy and use of tech like Patriot missiles will be enough to drag the war out.

But I don't see the USA continuing to send +$50 billion each year to Ukraine as likely they are going to wind down the spending.

I think if the House of Representatives approves the Ukraine spending for 2024, they'll want to cut 15% from what the Senate approved as part of a compromise.

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UkraineIsFucked says

Who the hell uses FB for 'real news' anyway?

Who uses FaceBook?

Stupid people do. If you want actual information, you're not going to find it on YouTube, Google, Facebook and RARELY you'll find it on Twitter. Twitter didn't stop censorship, all you see there are high profile people that are already recognized.

It's only the dullest of our society that still look for information on the major platforms. If you want to see actual information, it's confined to Rumble, Bitchute Odysee, Telegram, Gab and other lessor known sites. The reason the propaganda box constantly talks about the big 3 internet companies, is that they are promoting propaganda.

Nothing that the Tucker Carlson / Vladimir Putin interview covered was new. It's been covered at nauseam by many people years ago. Oliver Stone did it.

richwicks says

Stupid people do. If you want actual information, you're not going to find it on YouTube, Google, Facebook and RARELY you'll find it on Twitter.

Not true at all. I'm not a national guy really for news. The government is going to do what they do. I get tons of dirt on shit going on locally on FB. You don't have to comment or post, but you'd be STUPID not to at least get into feeds on local issues. 100% necessary with kids.

Point is it's a huge jumping off point for knowing what is going on with stuff that actually effects you. I've been done with main stream media for over a decade. Local facebook groups have made me money too. People need help with things and I have the ability and equipment to do so. Not life changing, but I can get a vacation out of it annually. And not a cheap one.

WookieMan says

Not true at all. I'm not a national guy really for news. The government is going to do what they do. I get tons of dirt on shit going on locally on FB. You don't have to comment or post, but you'd be STUPID not to at least get into feeds on local issues. 100% necessary with kids

Local issues don't matter. You want to see how criminal your government is? Probably not. I do.

In 50 years time, the US flag will be viewed in the same exact way the Nazi flag is currently now. That's how bad our fucking government is, and people are blissfully aware of it. Your grandchildren will have to deal with it.

richwicks says

In 50 years time, the US flag will be viewed in the same exact way the Nazi flag is currently now. That's how bad our fucking government is, and people are blissfully aware of it. Your grandchildren will have to deal with it.

90% of what you deal with is local. 5% state wide and then 5% national. You kind of sound bat shit crazy. Your life almost 100% runs on local politics.

Yes I get taxed by the federal government and they use my money for stupid shit. What the federal government does has almost nothing to do with you on a daily basis. Your roads good? That has nothing to do with the federal government. Utilities? Parks? Library? Police? Fire? The federal government has nothing to do with that in almost 90% of funding.

Your next door neighbor that's a trustee or alderman. The police chief. Mayor. Those are the people that influence your life the most. By a lot. If you want change become a House Representative in your district. Or get after your rep publicly. Bitching here is doing nothing.

Tucker has gone full Noam Chomsky now sucking up to Islamists in Dubai?

The rhetoric below is no different than the Squad and all the antifa Commies and sexual degenerates closing down our streets with protests over George Floyd and Hamas. The dude is losing it....

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"Tucker Carlson, the former Fox News host and right-wing media personality, suggested on Monday that the U.S. had lost its “moral authority” because it has refused to call for a cease-fire in the war between Israel and Hamas.

“If you see a nation with awesome power abetting war for its own sake, you have a leadership that has no moral authority, that is illegitimate,” Carlson said at the World Governments Summit in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, where he was participating in a discussion on the future of “storytelling.”

The answer came in response to a question asking him to assess why the U.S. had vetoed a U.N. resolution calling for an immediate cease-fire in Gaza."
https://jewishinsider.com/2024/02/asked-why-u-s-continues-to-back-israel-tucker-carlson-says-u-s-spreading-destruction-for-its-own-sake/

The_Deplorable says

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Hot blonde who no doubt married an oligarch or oligarchs son.

socal2 says

Tucker has gone full Noam Chomsky now sucking up to Islamists in Dubai?

The rhetoric below is no different than the Squad and all the antifa Commies and sexual degenerates closing down our streets with protests over George Floyd and Hamas. The dude is losing it....

He's right. Why do you want to kill people needlessly? There is no use in killing Palestinians aside from the terrorists. They are as innocent as the Israelis who died during this brutal attack. A mighty nation should broker peace deals instead of engaging in proxy wars. They can also stay out of it, they don't have to follow UN resolutions. But we should stop sending money to Israel as well. This is no different than the Ukraine conflict, even further away. Fuck these handouts and give money to US Vets and US citizens/taxpayers and rebuild the country instead

There was no need to invade Iraq. There were contractual obligations with Kuwait to beat Saddam back into his own country. After that was achieved they should have stopped. There was no reason to bomb Lybia and overthrow Gaddafi. There is no reason to expand into Palestinian territory except for provoking war. Maybe Israel can create a DMZ corridor with the help of other nations, but they need to come to the table, just killing people will turn the region into another Afghanistan, which may have already happened.

mell says

There was no need to invade Iraq. There were contractual obligations with Kuwait to beat Saddam back into his own country. After that was achieved they should have stopped. There was no reason to bomb Lybia and overthrow Gaddafi. There is no reason to expand into Palestinian territory except for provoking war. Maybe Israel can create a DMZ corridor with the help of other nations, but they need to come to the table, just killing people will turn the region into another Afghanistan, which may have already happened.

US Military is a mercenary army of the City of London and the Vatican. They go where they are told to go and kill and bomb who they are told to kill and bomb without regard for the opinions of the Republic (who will be bombarded with lies and propaganda about said mercenary incursions) for high pay. Their mission is to steal and occupy world resources for the Raj.

When is the last time the American public actually wanted any of these wars, even stoked by their Satanic propaganda press? Mostly never. False flags, fake provocations, fake news, fake righteousness etc. etc.

mell says

He's right. Why do you want to kill people needlessly?

FFS - now "the Right" is using Code Pink and Hamas rhetoric?

Israel is trying to get its hostages back and eliminate Hamas who are STILL firing rockets into Israel. And you call that "killing people needlessly"?

mell says

A mighty nation should broker peace deals instead of engaging in proxy wars.

The US has been trying to broker a peace deal in the Middle East my entire life.

Absolutely pointless when one side (Arabs) absolutely refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist.

socal2 says

mell says

He's right. Why do you want to kill people needlessly?

FFS - now "the Right" is using Code Pink and Hamas rhetoric?

Israel is trying to get its hostages back and eliminate Hamas who are STILL firing rockets into Israel. And you call that "killing people needlessly"?

mell says

A mighty nation should broker peace deals instead of engaging in proxy wars.

The US has been trying to broker a peace deal in the Middle East my entire life.

Absolutely pointless when one side (Arabs) absolutely refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist.

You better read what is currently proposed by Hamas, freeing all hostages in exchange for other captives. If Israel truly wanted to free their hostages they should go for it, they could still reverse course after they get their people back. If you were one of those hostages you'd pray for diplomacy. Israel's right to exist must be recognized, but the Gaza strip was not Israel's territory and they should negotiate what it would take to give it up. Sure or they could just go and keep killing neach other. Great solution

mell says

You better read what is currently proposed by Hamas, freeing all hostages in exchange for other captives. If Israel truly wanted to free their hostages they should go for it,

No more 1000 to 1 prisoner/hostage exchanges where Hamas gets to beef up their terrorist army to fight another day.

Israel learned its lessons after the last Hamas war where they freed the current Hamas leader Sinwar who is responsible for all the mass murder, rape and hostage taking on 10/7.

Everything you and the new right-wing Anti-American crowd are suggesting for Israel has already been tried over the last 50 years. The Palestinians have ALWAYS been bailed out by the West or the UN and have never truly paid the consequences for starting and losing wars against Israel.

This time is different.

But we now have Right Wingers sounding like fucking Left Wing academics citing Chomsky, BLM and other "anti-Colonial" horse shit.

If this is what MAGA means - I'm out......

socal2 says

The US has been trying to broker a peace deal in the Middle East my entire life.

If you think they were sincere then it's time to stay out. No payments to anyone but US citizens and internal affairs only, be neutral on all resolutions, let them duke it out. You want billion of dollars out of your pocket go into the middle East and Ukraine for warfare?

socal2 says

Israel learned its lessons after the last Hamas war where they freed the current Hamas leader Sinwar who is responsible for all the mass murder, rape and hostage taking on 10/7.

Agreed, no freeing terrorists.

socal2 says

The Palestinians have ALWAYS been bailed out by the West or the UN and have never truly paid the consequences for starting and losing wars against Israel.

You better check how much money was spent on Israel by the US. No money for anybody. This should be taken care of by bordering nations. Or not.

mell says

You better check how much money was spent on Israel by the US. No money for anybody.

They use that money to bring in all the illegals to both US and Europe to start internal wars.

WookieMan says

90% of what you deal with is local. 5% state wide and then 5% national. You kind of sound bat shit crazy.

You have no idea about history.

You're a good German not worrying about what the Nazi party was doing. You're a good Russian not worrying about the Bolsheviks. You're a good Chinese not worrying about the Chinese Revolution.

People are so fucking stupid I have to watch you assholes run the entire country off a cliff through your complete negligence and you don't care about your ignorance.

The US is currently siding with a racist genocidal group of Jewish supremacists, has needlessly made enemies with a nuclear super power, and is making enemies with the worlds largest economy, while it wars against its own citizens, and you couldn't care less. Fucking unbelievable.

socal2 says

Everything you and the new right-wing Anti-American crowd are suggesting for Israel has already been tried over the last 50 years. The Palestinians have ALWAYS been bailed out by the West or the UN and have never truly paid the consequences for starting and losing wars against Israel.

Palestinians didn't start a war. Isrfael is a bunch of Jewish bigots that moved en masse into Israel and made war with the indigenous population. There was NEVER a state of Israel. There's no mention of it in the Roman history, Greek history, or Egyptian history. It's always been a GROUP.

richwicks says

You're a good German not worrying about what the Nazi party was doing.

Because it was fucking local dude. Nazis, KKK, etc. They gained power at the local level and projected it onto the masses. I know my fucking history dude. It wasn't like Hitler just woke up one day and said kill Jews because he lead Germany and everyone followed. They converted people in cities, towns and villages. Local. I don't think you're getting my point... clearly.

Have you not witnessed black lives matter? Guess what? There's no BLM movement in my town and will never be. If enough localities resist this shit doesn't happen. This can be projected towards any issue on a federal level. People like to get reelected. It's you folks in the large suburbs and cities that are to blame. You bitch yet do nothing. I like my little enclave and we will group together and kill anyone that fucks with our town. No one would even be dumb enough to fuck with our town.

I have no interest in anything in the Eastern hemisphere. The place is in a perpetual state of war. We get involved because they're ancient petulant children. At some point let them glass each other over with nukes. Just don't involve us. NATO, the UN, etc. We live on different sides of the planet. We have everything needed in this hemisphere to be 100% prosperous without crossing Oceans. Local on a big scale can just be focusing on North and South America. But change starts at the local level like your neighborhood. Policy, leadership and from there move up the chain.

Bitching on Patnet is literally doing nothing. Go actually make change. I've had conversations with my House Rep Lauren Underwood who's a black Dem. Getting $2M for my community. Our next meeting I might bring up the Ukraine and Isreal BS. You can do the same. It only takes a few people to change a politicians stance. Money helps, but votes are needed to get reelected. You can call your House rep and get a meeting 90% of the time.

And again. You focus too much on national politics. Local is where change is made. CA is a shit hole of shit. You have a large population and project what you want on the rest of the nation. Frankly I blame you guys for not changing it. Get fucking involved instead of whining and posting memes. DO something.

Come on Wookie, BLM was not local. It is/was a national movement headed by someone. Who?

WookieMan says

Because it was fucking local dude. Nazis, KKK, etc. They gained power at the local level and projected it onto the masses. I know my fucking history dude.

You don't know the fucking present.

What you THINK is history is a bunch of propaganda and bullshit.

Government by the Nazis and Communists and OUR system was built ALWAYS from the top down. MOST people, like YOU, don't give a fuck, and don't pay any attention, and don't bother to fucking know what the FUCK is happening, and don't care.

YOU are the problem.

richwicks says

socal2 says

Everything you and the new right-wing Anti-American crowd are suggesting for Israel has already been tried over the last 50 years. The Palestinians have ALWAYS been bailed out by the West or the UN and have never truly paid the consequences for starting and losing wars against Israel.

Palestinians didn't start a war. Isrfael is a bunch of Jewish bigots that moved en masse into Israel and made war with the indigenous population. There was NEVER a state of Israel. There's no mention of it in the Roman history, Greek history, or Egyptian history. It's always been a GROUP.

There is a State of Israel. It has been acknowledged by the United Nations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_Israel#:~:text=On%2011%20May%201949%2C%20the,to%2012%2C%20with%209%20abstentions.

Lemme guess ??? It is a propaganda site out to subvert stuff/things. It has no basis in fact.

You have been proven incorrect on one of your many false assertions.

Try not to make stuff up.

Misc says

There is a State of Israel.

There's a state of Israel NOW, it's likely to be the first time it was EVER a state.

There's absolutely no mention of an Israel in any of the ancient world. Name any king of Israel other than the FICTIONAL David?

Misc says

You have been proven incorrect on one of your many false assertions.

You're an idiot. I am surrounded by things incapable of thinking. You believe bullshit, without any fucking research or investigation. You do no work, you don't think at all, and you insist you're correct. I'm tired of having to live among you things.

At least, you have stated that there is a State of Israel.

To pull you further into reality...now say that it has been in existence longer than you have been alive.

I know this is tough. Try not to whine. It is unbecoming.

richwicks says

You don't know the fucking present.

What you THINK is history is a bunch of propaganda and bullshit.

You live in CA and don't even fucking understand dude. What have you done? Nothing beside bitch here on Patnet. We've had this argument. You yourself ARE the problem. CA is a thorn in this countries ass. And NY. IL is only left because of one city. Your entire state is a shit hole of fuck and you do nothing about it.

Patrick has at least done shit to try and fix your state. You guys project your garbage and policies on the rest of the nation and then think that's how the nation is. It's not remotely. Until you realize you live in a leftists state that gets the most electoral college votes and considers Arnold right leaning, you gotta educate yourself.

This is what I mean by local. It's not top down. You guys out there let this shit go on. As the largest state you have the biggest microphone. Especially with Hollywood. Make it fucking collapse. If you don't take it down locally it will continue at the top. I don't care that you think you know everything. You clearly don't.

Again Hitler didn't just snap his finger and killed Jews. He needed buy in from certain German regions on the idea. You have to stop the shit at the regional level. CA is a massive problem in our country. They've bought into the trash. They're mostly idiots. Dolts. You cannot say the country is Nazi pointing the finger when you've got a thumb you can point at yourself. Get the shit together out there. I'd say the same for New York.

Fact is get out and do something. Get elected for dog catcher. Until you do something everyone is kind of sick of the crocodile tears my friend. DO SOMETHING.

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Eman says

https://x.com/marionawfal/status/1757862478384353463?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

Tucker is a poetic pussy. I generally don't mind him. That interview was weak sauce though. 100%. He's used to interviewing celebrities and US politicians. IF he even interviews them. He's a monologue type presenter like the late night shows. Rants and then chats with like minded people.