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2024 May 7, 9:44pm
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2024 May 7, 9:44pm
PeopleUnited says
No, it's not. Water is at a low energy state. Unless you can get it lower, water is a basically inert material.
You can get stuff to react to water, but that stuff is highly volatile, like pure potassium or sodium. Sodium really doesn't like being a metal, and when exposed to air, it will corrode due to oxygen. In water, it will steal O2 from the water making sodium hydroxide and hydrogen.
NuttBoxer says
car that runs on water
Surely this must be true.
No, it's not. Water is at a low energy state. Unless you can get it lower, water is a basically inert material.
You can get stuff to react to water, but that stuff is highly volatile, like pure potassium or sodium. Sodium really doesn't like being a metal, and when exposed to air, it will corrode due to oxygen. In water, it will steal O2 from the water making sodium hydroxide and hydrogen.
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--12 tons of rock for Lithium (can also be extracted from sea water)
-- 5 tons of cobalt minerals (Most cobalt is made as a byproduct of processing copper and nickel ores. It is the most difficult and expensive material to obtain for a battery.)
-- 3 tons nickel ore
-- 12 tons of copper ore
You must move 250 tons of soil to obtain:
-- 26.5 pounds of Lithium
-- 30 pounds of nickel
-- 48.5 pounds of manganese
-- 15 pounds of cobalt
To manufacture the battery also requires:
-- 441 pounds of aluminum, steel and/or plastic
-- 112 pounds of graphite
The Caterpillar 994A is used to move the earth to obtain the minerals needed for this battery. The Caterpillar consumes 264 gallons of diesel in 12 hours.
The bulk of necessary minerals for manufacturing the batteries come from China or Africa. Much of the labor in Africa is done by children. When you buy an electric car, China profits most.
The 2021 Tesla Model Y OEM battery (the cheapest Tesla battery) is currently for sale on the Internet for $4,999 not including shipping or installation. The battery weighs 1,000 pounds (you can imagine the shipping cost). The cost of Tesla batteries are:
Model 3 -- $14,000+ (Car MSRP $38,990)
Model Y -- $5,000–$5,500 (Car MSRP $47,740)
Model S -- $13,000–$20,000 (Car MSRP $74,990)
Model X -- $13,000+ (Car MSRP $79,990)
It takes 7 years for an electric car to reach net-zero CO2. The life expectancy of the battery is 10 years (average). Only in the last 3 years do you start to reduce your carbon footprint, but then the batteries must be replaced and you lose all gains made.
What are your thoughts?