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Some reforms:

Ban listing over 20% on displays that solicit tips "15% is the (Your State) Usual and Customary Tip" must be displayed on all service business checkout devices

Restaurants forbidden from adding on a gratituity in excess of 15% unless there were 8 or more diners and/or the bill was in excess of $1000

"Right to Work" States cannot call themselves that if they require certain non-state, non-public hourly wage employees to work certain shifts.

When they mandate that, it's a "Mandate to Corporate-Socialist Exploitation" state

I now have the rule that if I order standing up, no tip.

If they have to come to my table, take my order, refill my drinks, bring me my food and then the bill at the end - fine, I'll tip. Drive through? Fuck no. Fast food counter service? Only if it's a mom & pop shop.

Patrick says

I now have the rule that if I order standing up, no tip.

go to coffee shop, they flip the pay screen with tip options… hate this tip begging shit. i don’t tip for getting a coffee handed to me, shit is already overpriced.

If I tip, it's always in cash. Let the fags and the waitresses fight over the pile later.

Patrick says

I now have the rule that if I order standing up, no tip.

I also have a rule...Don't go to restaurants or bars

Everything else is an entitlement these days, why not tipping? It's reparations for their not being able to spend more time on their phones and computers.

They've made tipping subversive, LOL!

If tips become income tax free, people will tip less. IMO, this is a good thing.

I hang around a Dunkin donuts practically every day I'm in Florida.

They have turnover of workers; I always tip the new person $5.

I hand it to him or her, not the tip jar; "let's cut out the middle man."

Today I tipped the new guy, a young black kid.
He was so surprised and he had a few tears.
His coworker said I was cool, it's okay.

I told them that when I was younger I had more friends than money, and now it's the other way around.

I like Trump's proposal to stop the bloodsucking government taxing tips.

zzyzzx says

If tips become income tax free, people will tip less. IMO, this is a good thing.

i already don’t tip. inflation sucks, and barista doesn’t get 25% tip for handing me my cup. it’s absurd, any place you go to they do that screen flip tip begging.

can’t recall before, now auto repair shop asking tips of 10, 15, 20% on 4 digit bills. Tips should be stopped.

Whenever I went to Chicago for conventions, it's tip town, where the suited guys always have cash to hand of to obtain common courtesy. I didn't know that being from the West Coast, and asked my hotel to call me transport to the airport. They literally just acted like I didn't exist and I waited at the curb until I had to go back inside to force the issue. I also had a taxi driver try to steal my luggage but I was pounding on the taxi as he tried to drive away. He knew I could identify him, so he stopped and I retrieved my luggage.

In the lobby of a five star hotel at another time, when I was again waiting to leave town, a feral person of color tried to sell me stolen Euros. He started getting threatening as the ferals do in a heartbeat right there, but looked around and just left instead.

I have to admit Chicago is an interesting city, but apparently it's head on a swivel and close calls seem to be endemic. The violence oozes at times.

I took the L to the Natural History Museum, which I guess isn't recommended. On the way back, there were blacks on the platform a ways on both sides waiting for the train, and they both literally pointed at me screaming at the same time like I was meat getting away. Scary shit.

When I was in Canada I had three separate ESG taxes to add on to all the other taxes for my hotel room.

Patrick says

I now have the rule that if I order standing up, no tip.

I have same rule.

Ceffer says

I took the L to the Natural History Museum

Don't do that again. You can get away with it on the north side red and blue line (still sketchy on the blue). College years my wife lived with her grandparents in Oak Park. I'd ride with her nightly to get her home safe through the ghetto west side. One of my history professors was murdered getting off the West side blue line. I fucking hate public transportation.

If you're a male of less stature and/or a female, good luck in Chicago at night. I wouldn't recommend it. Even in the popular areas. I'd do everything in the daylight. Besides the skyline, restaurants and bars, it's kind of a shitty city in my opinion. It's unique for sure, but stuff like Navy Pier and Wrigley Field are just gay. If you're into getting fat, drunk and looking at ladies it might be popular. All the museums are overrated in my opinion.

The only good thing is there is relatively little homelessness, at least visible. Winters will do that. They have their hidden makeshift "homes" that aren't out in the open. Had my fun there as a younger person, but I'd never live there again. I'm past the bar/party years.

The sharing of tip's has got to be the worst idea business's have come up with. Lazy employees get a cut of the better ones. Dumb
And who the hell would tip at a Dutch Brothers?

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

i already don’t tip. inflation sucks, and barista doesn’t get 25% tip for handing me my cup. it’s absurd, any place you go to they do that screen flip tip begging.

You tip at a restaurant or cab/ride share. That's 90% of it. If you're at a full service resort and they bring bags to your room and they do turndown once or twice a day, you tip them. Otherwise I'd never tip anyone for coffee and never have. Baristas get paid regular minimum wage. Servers at a restaurant get less hourly.

I will tip on a hair cut as well. I will never tip normal minimum wage employees ever. Outside of the US I'm pretty generous with tipping. If I'm doing an all inclusive I'll bring $2 bills for drinks and a bunch of $5 and $10 bills for meals. Those people make shit wages and Europeans don't tip which is a good 20-30% of the people there in the Caribbean. A little bit goes a long way and you'll get served first and seated first.

If you can't afford to tip, don't go out. Pretty simple solution. $8.40 is the minimum wage for servers in IL. $4.35 in IA. Every state is different. They get paid shit if it's not busy or get tipped. Why do you think Trump wants to not tax tips? They're on a different pay scale than a burger flipper at McDonalds that does half the work yet it getting $15/hr.

Patrick says

I now have the rule that if I order standing up, no tip.

Now? This has always been the rule.

zzyzzx says

That can't be real.

I don't tip indifferent, inattentive, aloof, entitled service.

I wish good eateries would go back to way they used to create institution.

Either paid them very well or gave them a small stake in the business.

I would rather go to a place that charges $20 to $25 for a Lunch sandwich and fries. Knowing the staff there take care over the fare, service and customer's take away of the operation. Places that even if the cook slipped up and sent out inferior fare, would reject at the window and tell them to make again. Each of them could manage the place alone. They have just enough staff to do the tasks at hand. Not too many and not short of help. Too much help in the back makes for a bad place. Because they end up assuming someone else is doing something, and it never gets done. Or they impede the flow of the speed to get food out cooked right and at optimal temps, by talking, flexing they Boss skills on the lowly help. Places that don't have a bunch of bosses, bossing around useless help that shouldn't be in food industry anyway. And those Boss' are the ones that trying to make a career in the food industry. Yet they refuse to roll up their sleeves and kneed the damn dough. But everyone wants to be a boss.

Nothing worse than paying premium price for crap service and mediocre food service grade food, that still fucked up by uncaring low wage tax refund recipients, and they still demand a tip.

https://www.reddit.com/r/tipping/comments/1lqyuzt/big_beautiful_bill_has_passed_im_going_to_tip_10/

Big Beautiful Bill has passed! I’m going to tip 10% now and only for good service.

10% used to be normal.

Patrick says

10% used to be normal.

And even then, only for good service.

HeadSet says

Patrick says

10% used to be normal.

And even then, only for good service.

not for barista with 10 nose rings who handed you a cup of coffee, flipped ipad around and stares you down as you choose an option?

Fortwaye says

not for barista with 10 nose rings who handed you a cup of coffee, flipped ipad around and stares you down as you choose an option?

She can stare all she wants. I will hit "no tip" unless it was delivered to my table.

Same as Wookie,

I tip at restaurants, barber, taxi, luggage guy at hotels….rarely I’ll tip at a sandwich place if they go above and beyond or otherwise make a fantastic sandwich. Never tip at coffee places, ice cream, takeout, etc.

Fortwaye says

HeadSet says

Patrick says

10% used to be normal.

And even then, only for good service.

not for barista with 10 nose rings who handed you a cup of coffee, flipped ipad around and stares you down as you choose an option?

Does she have a chance to spit in your coffee then? If not - no tip.

Pictures That Reveal Just How Out of Hand Tipping Culture Has Become
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC9VutYt-6Y

HeadSet says

Fortwaye says
not for barista with 10 nose rings who handed you a cup of coffee, flipped ipad around and stares you down as you choose an option?

She can stare all she wants. I will hit "no tip" unless it was delivered to my table.

Service matters. I take my son to pole vault every Sunday. Eat breakfast when he's doing boring drills not worth watching. I do watch at the end when he's jumping. Get the same waitress she's learned my name and mine hers and brings what I want before I ask.

I'm in an out in 30 min. Frees a table up for her for more customers and I get to watch the kid jump and then criticize him...lol. Pound 2 mimosas with an hour to chill out and be safe driving.

I'll never tip a coffee person, although I don't drink regular coffee. Been doing the mushroom coffee with minimal caffeine at home. I turn into a full Parkinson's patient if I go full caffeine. A coke is about the max I'll go and that's once a month best case.

Either way I'd never pay someone extra to pour something already made with no effort involved. You can give out 50 cups of coffee in 2-3 min. My god that challenge is so difficult. They'll get a dime if lucky.

Fortwaye says

not for barista with 10 nose rings who handed you a cup of coffee, flipped ipad around and stares you down as you choose an option?

Another good reason to pay cash.

Much easier to simply not tip. And no one should ever be tipping for anything ordered while standing at a cash register.

Patrick says

Much easier to simply not tip. And no one should ever be tipping for anything ordered while standing at a cash register.

When I was in Italy back in the day (Europe - no tips), counter service was 1/2 to 1/3 the price of sit-down service. Every bar (liquor + coffee) I was about to enter had a waiter try to get me to sit down before I reached the bar counter.