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Tipping is out of control.


               
2024 Jun 19, 7:34pm   2,333 views  80 comments

by TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   follow (9)  

Pretty obvious that corps, esp. service/hospitality business, are trying to throw costs back on the exhausted consumer.

This actually started years ago, when a few decades after breaking janitor unions, hotels began "Recommending" $5/night for room service instead of $5-10 for a week's stay. Back then the millie chicks hadn't fully taken over Media yet so there was pushback in the news.

Now, Restaurants are trying to normalize 20% tips, and tipping for takeou/counter staff at all. Nope!

They already hiked their prices big league before the 20% tip push, so wait staff are already getting proportionally more.

Remember: 15% meh, 18% Good, 20%+ excellent, amazing, beyond the call of duty

And this push started before the $15-18/hr minimum wage hikes in some states.

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55   zzyzzx   2026 Jan 20, 11:41am  

Automatic 30% tip added:


56   Patrick   2026 Jan 20, 1:21pm  

Glock-n-Load says

Holy shit. I just came out of the Computer Cave. Located in the Richmond Virginia area.

I bought a new charger and the credit card point of sale put 3 different tip amounts on the screen.

I will never go back.


Please also let them know why.
57   Patrick   2026 Jan 20, 1:22pm  

GNL says

So tipping is now customary anywhere you swipe your card


Another excellent reason to pay with cash!
58   GNL   2026 Jan 20, 2:52pm  

Patrick says


Glock-n-Load says


Holy shit. I just came out of the Computer Cave. Located in the Richmond Virginia area.

I bought a new charger and the credit card point of sale put 3 different tip amounts on the screen.

I will never go back.


Please also let them know why.


I did. They're a new company. I decided to contact them through their website. I was contacted within 30 minutes via email. I can't remember what they offered me and asked me for feedback.

I thanked them for their offer (I think some kind of discount on something) but told them they already lost me as a customer. The feedback I gave them was to get that tip suggestion off of their point of sale as fast as possible.
59   Patrick   2026 Jan 24, 10:23pm  

zzyzzx says

Automatic 30% tip added:





And then they want a tip on that new total! Holy shit.

NEVER go to Las Vegas.
60   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   2026 Jan 24, 11:12pm  

zzyzzx says






Tipping the doorman and maybe the porter is normal in NYC, has been for many decades, but the Resident Manager?

The Resident Manager/Supers "tip" comes from a bonus given by the Owners or Management, and those cheap fucks trying to slide it on the residents.
61   mell   2026 Jan 25, 8:17am  

TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter says


Tipping the doorman and maybe the porter is normal in NYC, has been for many decades, but the Resident Manager?

The Resident Manager/Supers "tip" comes from a bonus given by the Owners or Management, and those cheap fucks trying to slide it on the residents.

Yep, and even the doorman/porter tipping is a discretionary action, so people used to and should pay them in cash if they appreciate them, it's nobody's fucking business to keep a tally.
62   RWSGFY   2026 Jan 25, 8:27am  

Patrick says

zzyzzx says


Automatic 30% tip added:





And then they want a tip on that new total! Holy shit.

NEVER go to Las Vegas.


Even calculating the tip after tax is outrageos. Should be strictly %% of the price of food.
63   Booger   2026 Jan 25, 10:20am  

Ordered a pizza and now I’m being asked to tip the driver AND the people who made it separately:


64   HeadSet   2026 Jan 25, 11:45am  

Booger says

Ordered a pizza and now I’m being asked to tip the driver AND the people who made it separately:




Needs to have a minus 10% option for late delivery, cold, bite taken out, etc.
65   Eric_Holder   2026 Jan 25, 6:01pm  

Booger says

Ordered a pizza and now I’m being asked to tip the driver AND the people who made it separately:





Right choice as long as you're not plannig to order from them ever again, LOL.

PS. Don't see a problem with tipping the driver here because how is this different from a waiter bringing your food to your table? You tip for that, right?
66   zzyzzx   2026 Jan 27, 7:00am  

https://www.reddit.com/r/EndTipping/comments/1qo2fod/tipping/


I went to a vape shop today to get a vape. All is good. I tell the woman behind the counter I want that one. She turns around, grabs it, scans it, the total pops up on the screen, and a add tip screen pops up. There's no button to skip or opt out, so I entered a custom number, 0, and she has the nerve to cancel the transaction and tell me I needed to enter a valid tip amount.

I asked what am I tipping her for. She told me that it was customary for customers to tip the folks behind the counter. I politely told her I'm not tipping the people at the gas station, I'm not tipping the people at the grocery store, I'm not tipping the people at Walmart, why should I be tipping her for turning around and grabbing my vape. She then scanned my vape, and I entered 0 on the tip screen, and she handed me my vape and receipt. She refused to say a word, and I left with a thank you.
67   zzyzzx   2026 Jan 27, 7:03am  

https://www.reddit.com/r/EndTipping/comments/1qln435/server_sent_his_manager_to_the_parking_lot_to_ask/


The other day, 4 of use went out to a “fancy” sushi place to catch up. I say “fancy” because this isn’t an upscale place, they just make some crazy rolls and charge a ton for them. Our friend said it was his treat. We’ve all been there before so everyone had their favorites. Everyone ordered 2 rolls, which came out to about $180 before tax for all 8 rolls. We ate quick and were out of there in 45 minutes. It was just under $200 after tax so my friend took out $220 cash and asked if we thought $20 was a good enough tip. We said yes, the server didn’t have to explain anything to use and just brought us water and sushi. So he put it down and we left.

We were chatting next to our cars in the parking lot when the manager (i think) came out and asked us if something was wrong with the service. We were all confused and said no. Then he said, “you guys only left a $20 tip”, and we just stood there even more confused. My buddy said that it was a quick lunch and we felt $20 was a decent tip for less than 45 minutes at the restaurant and us being easy customers who already knew what they wanted. The manager proceeded to say, “we recommend 20% and up on the bottom of the receipt” and just stood there, like he was expecting us to hand over more cash. It was awkward for a few seconds so we just thanked him for the food and went to our cars.

Recommending 20% at an expensive place is one thing, but going out and confronting customers in the parking lot because they didn’t tip 20% is just wild. Ive always been a “flat rate” tipper on more expensive bills. Server has to bring out food whether we order a $8 rolls or $20 rolls, expecting to get a bigger tip just because we ordered the expensive rolls is crazy.
68   Glock-n-Load   2026 Jan 27, 7:28am  

zzyzzx says


https://www.reddit.com/r/EndTipping/comments/1qln435/server_sent_his_manager_to_the_parking_lot_to_ask/


The other day, 4 of use went out to a “fancy” sushi place to catch up. I say “fancy” because this isn’t an upscale place, they just make some crazy rolls and charge a ton for them. Our friend said it was his treat. We’ve all been there before so everyone had their favorites. Everyone ordered 2 rolls, which came out to about $180 before tax for all 8 rolls. We ate quick and were out of there in 45 minutes. It was just under $200 after tax so my friend took out $220 cash and asked if we thought $20 was a good enough tip. We said yes, the server didn’t have to explain anything to use and just brought us water and sushi. So he put it down and we left.

We were chatting next to our cars in the parking lot when the manager (i think) came out and asked us if something was wrong with the service. We were all confused and said no. Then he said, “you guys only left a $20 tip”, and we just stood there even more confused. My buddy said that it was a quick lunch and we felt $20 was a decent tip for less than 45 minutes at the restaurant and us being easy customers who already knew what they wanted. The manager proceeded to say, “we recommend 20% and up on the bottom of the receipt” and just stood there, like he was expecting us to hand over more cash. It was awkward for a few seconds so we just thanked him for the food and went to our cars.

Recommending 20% at an expensive place is one thing, but going out and confronting customers in the parking lot because they didn’t tip 20% is just wild. Ive always been a “flat rate” tipper on more expensive bills. Server has to bring out food whether we order a $8 rolls or $20 rolls, expecting to get a bigger tip just because we ordered the expensive rolls is crazy.


This one doesn’t make sense to me. No, of course you shouldn’t be harassed for leaving a small tip but, yes, that is a small tip.
69   zzyzzx   2026 Jan 27, 7:31am  

https://www.reddit.com/r/EndTipping/comments/1qnoich/cc_prompted_me_to_tipat_a_liquor_store/


I popped into a Bubbles Market in San Diego last night. Only two people working, both standing behind the cash register. There were LOTS of craft beer selections so I guess could warrant someone MAYBE coming over to see if I have questions. BUT it is a damn liquor store, so I’ve NEVER had an expectation of service. You pick your selections out, pay, and leave. So I pick my own 4 pack of beer, go to pay and the amount pops up, THEN the screen prompts me for a tip (btw the tip percentage started at 20%). My eyes about popped out of head and I chuckled. Never hit a No Tip button so quickly. But he made it a point to tell me I get 10% off if I bought 4 beers. Yes, I know. I saw the signs. But I bought those 4 beers. My total discount was $2.50.

Why in the ever living hell would I tip a liquor store? Literal INSANITY
70   zzyzzx   2026 Jan 27, 7:32am  

Glock-n-Load says

This one doesn’t make sense to me. No, of course you shouldn’t be harassed for leaving a small tip but, yes, that is a small tip.


It's more than 10%.
71   HeadSet   2026 Jan 27, 8:30am  

zzyzzx says

Why in the ever living hell would I tip a liquor store?

Yes, one tips liquor bottles, not liquor stores.
72   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2026 Jan 27, 7:05pm  

Booger says

Ordered a pizza and now I’m being asked to tip the driver AND the people who made it separately:





Most likely is that the guy who made it is probably illegal and won't see the tip anyway. That's most restaurants these days, cooks are all illegals.
73   Patrick   2026 Jan 27, 7:13pm  

zzyzzx says


It's more than 10%.


Yes, and 10% used to be normal. Then 15%. Now 20%.

Fuck that inflation. If they are good and actually come to the table they get 15% of the pretax total, otherwise 10% of the pretax total (if they come to the table).

Always zero for just entering numbers on a cash register while I'm standing.
74   stereotomy   2026 Jan 27, 7:21pm  

Exactly, I'm not responsible for overtipping you just to boost your take to a somewhat livable wage - that's on you. Make better life choices and get out of the service industry.
75   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2026 Jan 28, 6:04am  

stereotomy says


Exactly, I'm not responsible for overtipping you just to boost your take to a somewhat livable wage - that's on you. Make better life choices and get out of the service industry.


It's not even that. Businesses are trying to push off all the salaries onto the customers. They used to pay that out of revenue, but many learned, and I knew guys like that, that they could offer lower salary if tipping was good. It's in fact just a subsidy to business. It's a scam, not illegal, just immoral.
76   zzyzzx   2026 Jan 28, 6:53am  

FortWayneHatesRealtors says


Most likely is that the guy who made it is probably illegal

I will tip an American server more.
77   stereotomy   2026 Jan 28, 6:55am  

FortWayneHatesRealtors says

stereotomy says



Exactly, I'm not responsible for overtipping you just to boost your take to a somewhat livable wage - that's on you. Make better life choices and get out of the service industry.


It's not even that. Businesses are trying to push off all the salaries onto the customers. They used to pay that out of revenue, but many learned, and I knew guys like that, that they could offer lower salary if tipping was good. It's in fact just a subsidy to business. It's a scam, not illegal, just immoral.

You said it better than I was trying to say. The businesses scam the workers who are too desperate or stupid to call them on it, then have them de facto begging for a handout instead of being paid a decent wage.
78   HeadSet   2026 Jan 28, 8:18am  

zzyzzx says

I will tap an American server more.

Interesting typo there...
79   HeadSet   2026 Jan 28, 8:25am  

stereotomy says

The businesses scam the workers who are too desperate or stupid to call them on it, then have them de facto begging for a handout instead of being paid a decent wage.

When I was in Dallas, I noticed some very high-end restaurants did not pay their waiters at all, and there was a waiting list to become a waiter at these places. A 15% tip at these meal prices meant very good hourly earnings.
80   stereotomy   2026 Jan 28, 8:29am  

HeadSet says

stereotomy says


The businesses scam the workers who are too desperate or stupid to call them on it, then have them de facto begging for a handout instead of being paid a decent wage.

When I was in Dallas, I noticed some very high-end restaurants did not pay their waiters at all, and there was a waiting list to become a waiter at these places. A 15% tip at these meal prices meant very good hourly earnings.

That's the way it always was. Work at cheap restaurants, get low tips. Work at really expensive restaurants, get good tips. The point is that waiters have to work hard and be good at their jobs to get the good gigs. You don't get pro rates doing bush league.

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