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2024 Jul 6, 4:05pm   4,547 views  189 comments

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Vanguard 500 Index Fund (VFINX)

One year return = 24.38%

If you invested $1 million in the average S&P 500 stock index fund, you'd be smoking fat cigars and doing $243,800 worth of hookers and coke.


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108   Ceffer   2025 Mar 5, 5:58pm  

It's the traditional, periodic human sacrifice slaughter tithings, account holder harvests and suffering resonances mandated by bloodlines' empowering tunnel demons. It's no different from the Aztec pyramids with torn out hearts and severed heads rolled down the steps.

Both WWI and WWII began and ended on specific occult dates and times, until the human sacrifice agendas had been completed. The bloodlines hold a permanent bounty debt on the heads of their human herds.

It isn't what 'I' or 'we' believe, it is what THEY believe. The difference with Trump is he is standing in the way of their global sacrificial feeding rituals.
109   Ceffer   2025 Mar 5, 7:29pm  

This one is a bit 'Woo-ish', but seems accurate as to the Euro Demon frame of mind. "Zelensky meets King Charles. World War 3 on the way?" We aren't talking about common sense, preservation of life, or even preservation of civilization. We are talking about the bloodline mandates to 'thin the herds' and re-establish themselves in the ashes at any cost.

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=252140
110   HeadSet   2025 Mar 5, 7:46pm  

stereotomy says

I think Larry Niven based the evolution of the Kzinti

Ringworld was awesome.
111   Misc   2025 Mar 5, 8:53pm  

So, uhhhh where are the Ukies gonna get the weapon systems to fight the Russians.

They are staking that Trump will sell them US weapons. Trump wants to be known as the President of Peace, he probably ain't gonna sell them the the Euroweenies the weapons if he's got a decent peace offering from Russia.
112   clambo   2025 Mar 6, 7:27am  

There is no deal with "Russia", it's only Putin; nobody else has shit to say about anything in Russia.

Trump is naive and thinks he can talk to Putin like he talked to the assorted clowns on The Apprentice.
113   RWSGFY   2025 Mar 6, 7:54am  

clambo says

There is no deal with "Russia", it's only Putin; nobody else has shit to say about anything in Russia.

Trump is naive and thinks he can talk to Putin like he talked to the assorted clowns on The Apprentice.


General George S. Patton:

“The difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic, and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinaman or a Japanese, and from what I have seen of them, I have no particular desire to understand them, except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, barbarian, and chronic drunk.”

Statement by Patton on 8 August 1945, as quoted in “General Patton : A Soldier’s Life” (2002) by Stanley P. Hirshson, p. 650
114   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Mar 6, 9:03am  

stereotomy says

After multiple whole generations of the most aggressive of their young men are killed, the aggressive proportion of the male population is effectively exterminated. Only the cucks and cowards remain, which explains the eurotrash sluts' proclivities towards Americans and musselman rapefugees.


I've sort of had that theory as well. And blended it towards 'why' there are so many hot Eastern European women at this point. (few men left had their pick to reproduce, uglier women did not).

However your comment suggests that if I'm right it won't last long and I cannot disagree with that.
115   stereotomy   2025 Mar 6, 10:00am  

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

stereotomy says


After multiple whole generations of the most aggressive of their young men are killed, the aggressive proportion of the male population is effectively exterminated. Only the cucks and cowards remain, which explains the eurotrash sluts' proclivities towards Americans and musselman rapefugees.


I've sort of had that theory as well. And blended it towards 'why' there are so many hot Eastern European women at this point. (few men left had their pick to reproduce, uglier women did not).

However your comment suggests that if I'm right it won't last long and I cannot disagree with that.

Git while the gittin's good. There was some really hot and high-quality Russian pussy for sale in the mail order bride market back in the early to mid 90's.
116   AD   2025 Mar 7, 3:53am  



117   HeadSet   2025 Mar 7, 12:29pm  

Stocks doing well today. According to WSJ, that is due to the jobs report and the idea the Fed will not rise rates.
118   HeadSet   2025 Mar 10, 11:28am  

Well, that did not last. Analysts are saying the big drop is due to tariffs on Canada and Mexico no longer being in doubt.
119   KgK one   2025 Mar 10, 2:14pm  

Now dow is 9% below, is it good time to buy?

We need Rin s input. Get him out of hoing n doll for now
120   Booger   2025 Mar 10, 4:43pm  

Stocks are going down because investors fear that companies will actually have to hire Americans.
121   DeportLibtards   2025 Mar 10, 7:07pm  

Booger says

Stocks are going down because investors fear that companies will actually have to hire Americans.



123   HeadSet   2025 Mar 10, 7:48pm  

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says





Only a small percentage of Americans own stocks? That "small percentage" is about 62%. You know, all those 401ks and mutual funds Maybe he meant that of all those people who own stocks, about half of the value is held by the top 1%.
124   RWSGFY   2025 Mar 11, 6:12am  

HeadSet says

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says






Only a small percentage of Americans own stocks? That "small percentage" is about 62%. You know, all those 401ks and mutual funds Maybe he meant that of all those people who own stocks, about half of the value is held by the top 1%.


Charles Haywood is a stupid cunt.
126   clambo   2025 Mar 11, 7:46am  

Darnit, this shit always happens when I decide to take out my RMD (Required Minimum Distribution).

Oh well fuck it.
127   HeadSet   2025 Mar 11, 8:34am  

clambo says

Darnit, this shit always happens when I decide to take out my RMD (Required Minimum Distribution).

I hear you. I just bought Playtika a few weeks ago and all research made it look like a good deal. Only after I bought it did the price plummet because of first ever earnings loss and the general fall of the market.
128   clambo   2025 Mar 11, 12:15pm  

Re: Trump quote about the Dow dropping 1000 points: He's obviously not a stock investor.

The stock market is an auction, and prices can fluctuate greatly.

Shooting someone from a cannon for the vicissitudes of the Dow is silly.
129   AD   2025 Mar 11, 1:18pm  

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S&P 500 closes today around 9.5% below its all time high. Seems like the current floor is 10% below the all time high.

Agree on "stock market ownership" as Pew Research shows 58% of households invested in the stock market (includes mutual funds, ETFs, etc) in 2024.

I figure the CALPERs participants (and other pension funds participants like Teamsters) count as part of that even by chance if they do not have IRAs or 401Ks.

I figure the bottom 15% (0 to 15 percentile) are legally poor so naturally they have no savings for the stock market.

But what about the 16 to 41 percentile (next ~26%) ? why are they not invested in the stock market ? are they that much struggling as the "working class" ?

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130   Patrick   2025 Mar 11, 2:59pm  

Things will get really interesting if house prices fall back to the normal ratio of costing about 3 years of work.

A lot of the elderly will have to sell their stocks, putting pressure there too.

Banks will all be bankrupt, because your "deposits" are mostly in mortgages.

I'd finally be able to afford a house, except for my stocks having gone down so much, lol. Whatever.
131   HeadSet   2025 Mar 11, 3:32pm  

Patrick says

I'd finally be able to afford a house, except for my stocks having gone down so much, lol. Whatever.

Very fair tradeoff. My stocks have tumbled for now as well, but we need to see affordable houses for the next generation. We can't have a society where all the real estate and stocks are concentrated with the old folks who lived during a time where a middle-class income allowed folks to afford a home and invest. It is not a stable system, when the younger folks are busting their butts to afford a shared hovel while being taxed to pay Social Security to a generation with no house or car payment while collecting dividends and interest.
132   clambo   2025 Mar 11, 5:47pm  

Since Jan 1, (Year to Date) the S&P 500 index is down 5.26% , this month it's down 8.18%, its 5 year return= 105.3%

It's always annoying when it goes down, but what the hell, that's the deal with stonks.
133   AD   2025 Mar 11, 7:08pm  

Patrick says

Things will get really interesting if house prices fall back to the normal ratio of costing about 3 years of work.

A lot of the elderly will have to sell their stocks, putting pressure there too.

Banks will all be bankrupt, because your "deposits" are mostly in mortgages.

I'd finally be able to afford a house, except for my stocks having gone down so much, lol. Whatever.


I see home prices staying constant or flat for the next few years for those zip codes where home prices dropped at least 10% from their all time highs set between early 2022 to mid 2023.

Also, elderly who have equity in their homes can get reverse mortgages to be able to pay for home expenses, etc (property tax/insurance/maintenance, home health care, etc)

I hope we don't have lost decade or decades as far as inflation-adjusted returns (like from March 2000 to March 2020)

S&P 500 :
March 2000: 1500
March 2009: 666
February 2013: 1500
March 2020: 2300
February 2025: 6417 (ALL TIME HIGH)
Today: 5572
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134   AD   2025 Mar 13, 9:42am  

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S&P 500 real return for last 3.5 years is averaging around 1.25% annually



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135   AD   2025 Mar 13, 10:20am  

S&P 500 crossed over to correction territory today which is 10% below last high (which is all time high) of 6147.
136   AD   2025 Mar 13, 12:32pm  

AMZN is down 20% and GOOGL is down 22% from the most recent high which is also the all time high.

As expected the Magnificent 7 were going to pullback before the S&P 500 and at a higher amount retracement.

Maybe the Vanguard Healthcare Fund will have a better year in 2025.

Warren Buffett made a wise move last year by allocating about 34% of Berkshire Hathaway assets in cash.

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137   Misc   2025 Mar 14, 3:16am  

With as skeptical as most people on this site are, it amazes me that very few view the statements they receive from their financial institutions as the propaganda that they are.
138   zzyzzx   2025 Mar 14, 5:08am  

Patrick says

I'd finally be able to afford a house, except for my stocks having gone down so much, lol. Whatever.


Did your dividend paying stocks go down much? I'm not referring to stuff that just happens to pay a dividend, like FB, Apple, NVIDIA, Microsoft, etc. I'm referring to things like the energy sector and REITS? Since you are retired I would assume that you loaded up on that type of thing already (or should have). And if you do own dividend paying stocks would you really care all that much of they did drop, as long as the dividends kept coming?
139   HeadSet   2025 Mar 14, 9:08am  

zzyzzx says

Did your dividend paying stocks go down much?

Mine did, by a lot. They still pay the same dividends though, so far.
140   AD   2025 Mar 14, 10:01am  

HeadSet says

zzyzzx says
Did your dividend paying stocks go down much?

Mine did, by a lot. They still pay the same dividends though, so far.


Vanguard High Dividend Yield fund is one popular dividend paying fund.

There is not much change in how much dividends are paid out per share (or as a percentage of steady earnings).

It will be interesting to see how much the ticker CALM will adjust dividends per share over the next four years as the Trump admin restores regulation sanity of the poultry industry.

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141   Patrick   2025 Mar 14, 10:11am  

zzyzzx says

And if you do own dividend paying stocks would you really care all that much of they did drop, as long as the dividends kept coming?


The dividends do keep coming, which is nice.

I don't really care about the market overall. I assume I'll outlive any downturn.
142   AD   2025 Mar 14, 3:41pm  



143   AD   2025 Mar 31, 4:14pm  

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From today's Finimize's email. S&P 500 projected by Goldman Sachs to finish the year at +3%.

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What’s going on here?

Goldman Sachs downgraded its forecast for the S&P 500 on Sunday, based on economic predictions pessimistic enough to make you want to hide under the covers.

What does this mean?

Goldman expects the average US tariff rate to rise by 15 percentage points this year. And as businesses fold levies into prices, everyday Americans will foot much of the bill. In fact, Goldman now expects inflation to hit 3.4% this year – higher than its previous 2.9% forecast and far greater than the Federal Reserve’s 2% target. With the economy expected to strain under that pressure, the big bank now sees a 35% chance of a recession – up from 20% – in the next 12 months. So you can see why Goldman cut its S&P 500 forecast: the bank’s now expecting a modest 3% uptick by the end of the year – a sliver of the 12% it pitched before.

Why should I care?

Zooming in: It was nice while it lasted.

The S&P 500 has historically fallen by around 25% during a recession, with the timing of the drop dependent on the speed and size of the economy’s slowdown. As for this potential one coming, Goldman sees profit for S&P 500 companies sliding by 13% – and that could pull the index’s stocks down 17% from today’s level.

The bigger picture: Get ready to say, “bless you”.

Both institutional and retail investors have swapped stateside stocks for foreign ones lately. Europe’s have been especially popular: they’re cheap in comparison to America’s and could soon benefit from government plans to spend a lot more. But if the US does fall into a recession, the rest of the world’s stocks will catch the proverbial cold. And in that case, you might be happy to have cash and bonds on hand: when interest rates are higher than inflation and volatility is heady, they make for decent hiding places.
144   RWSGFY   2025 Mar 31, 4:16pm  

From great expectations for the US market to "hide in Europe, cash or bonds" in how many weeks?
145   stfu   2025 Apr 1, 5:18am  

My international ETF's continue to suck ass. I don't know where all the ex-US optimism is coming from. They'd have to go on a multi-year +20% tear vs. US ETF's to even get close to catching up to good ole VTI.
146   stfu   2025 Apr 1, 5:24am  

AD says

S&P 500 real return for last 3.5 years is averaging around 1.25% annually

I'd take that all day long. That means I'm getting ahead of inflation, albeit slowly.

In my experience US stock ETF's are the only thing that reliably beats inflation, in every scenario. Gold doesn't. Bonds don't. I don't know about crypto but I avoid because it has no cash flows or physical properties, so I don't know how to value it.
147   RWSGFY   2025 Apr 1, 10:05am  

stfu says


My international ETF's continue to suck ass. I don't know where all the ex-US optimism is coming from. They'd have to go on a multi-year +20% tear vs. US ETF's to even get close to catching up to good ole VTI.


Past performance does not guarantee future results, duh.

PS. Yurp is increasing military spending, lifting debt limits and making other stimulative moves. The US is going into opposite direction towards austerity and does it aggresively. This is where Yurp used to be when their market performance lagged ours.

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