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Patrick
2024 Sep 6, 5:34pm
Patrick
2024 Sep 6, 5:34pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
I got one in high school.
I want to improve everything if possible.
had a C64 when I was 13
I got one in high school.
I want to improve everything if possible.
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stereotomy
2024 Sep 6, 5:38pm
stereotomy
2024 Sep 6, 5:38pm
You are not failing to adjust to modern times. You are having a natural reaction to attempts to make you believe the propaganda of globomomo. Globohomo didn't exist in its current form until recently. Before, you might remember it as "Political Correctness," which was its moniker in the early naughties (2000's - 2010's). Unfortunately, it has mutated to an extremely virulent memetic strain, to which young women and otherwise vulnerable persons are susceptible.
Welcome to the farm, where all confused animals are properly cared for
Welcome to the farm, where all confused animals are properly cared for
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WookieMan
2024 Sep 6, 10:16pm
WookieMan
2024 Sep 6, 10:16pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
At least you had decent paragraph breaks with the content unlike Ohomen. Some stories need big paragraphs, I give an A-
Live in the future and reminisce on the past. But don't let it control your future ever. Also don't let others drag you down. Some may legit be trying to help you, but I've found that most people really don't "actually" want to help you. Especially at work. FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
I'm writing a book. Semi auto biography. A lot of it's already here on Patnet after 13k comments. I need to figure out the artistic style of writing. Change is good. I write a lot. I fucking do nothing with it. Never gave it a shot. Well I am. Ghost writing of course. If by 2026 you see Uncle Tom on shelves... it's me.
A huge motivator is when my friends laugh at me about writing. You get put down enough you don't do it. I'm doing it. Fuck them. Had a friend mock me about it. He fucking hasn't travel in 5 years. At all. He had kids. Boo fucking hoo. I have 3 and travel 5 times a year.
Until you realize most people are jealous of ANY success you have, you're blind. People I call friends call my wife the rich bitch. I respond, sorry you suck at life. Ain't my problem. Crickets. Jealousy is a disease. Exponentially worse than Covid or AIDS. It's a mental illness. I'd rather hang out with an alcoholic, druggie, etc. than a jealous piece of shit. Get over it. You suck.
Ok, I’ll stop. I’ve clearly gone Ohomen. Apologies.
At least you had decent paragraph breaks with the content unlike Ohomen. Some stories need big paragraphs, I give an A-
Live in the future and reminisce on the past. But don't let it control your future ever. Also don't let others drag you down. Some may legit be trying to help you, but I've found that most people really don't "actually" want to help you. Especially at work. FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
And I don’t get it. I think life must be miserable if you never change, never learn new things.
I'm writing a book. Semi auto biography. A lot of it's already here on Patnet after 13k comments. I need to figure out the artistic style of writing. Change is good. I write a lot. I fucking do nothing with it. Never gave it a shot. Well I am. Ghost writing of course. If by 2026 you see Uncle Tom on shelves... it's me.
A huge motivator is when my friends laugh at me about writing. You get put down enough you don't do it. I'm doing it. Fuck them. Had a friend mock me about it. He fucking hasn't travel in 5 years. At all. He had kids. Boo fucking hoo. I have 3 and travel 5 times a year.
Until you realize most people are jealous of ANY success you have, you're blind. People I call friends call my wife the rich bitch. I respond, sorry you suck at life. Ain't my problem. Crickets. Jealousy is a disease. Exponentially worse than Covid or AIDS. It's a mental illness. I'd rather hang out with an alcoholic, druggie, etc. than a jealous piece of shit. Get over it. You suck.
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AD
2024 Sep 17, 11:54pm
AD
2024 Sep 17, 11:54pm
younger generation (under 35 years old) likely going to fight this trend as far as return to office
its old school to them as far as working 5 days a week in the office
maybe younger generation goofing off too much at home and not offering expected value to their employers at their current compensation levels
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its old school to them as far as working 5 days a week in the office
maybe younger generation goofing off too much at home and not offering expected value to their employers at their current compensation levels
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AD
2024 Sep 18, 12:01am
AD
2024 Sep 18, 12:01am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
I agree as far as lots of resistance to what is reasonable as far as productivity and quality standards set when we started in the workforce in the 1990s.
I remember when it was quality management training like Six Sigma that was the commonplace in the workforce, and not Woke and Diversity training dominating the training schedule.
Granted we had once or twice a year training in regards to human relations and respecting diversity.
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I am appalled at people that won’t do very basic things like open their email at the beginning of work or almost feign stupidity(it seems) when a software is changed. Keep in mind all of these employees are Gen X or younger.
I agree as far as lots of resistance to what is reasonable as far as productivity and quality standards set when we started in the workforce in the 1990s.
I remember when it was quality management training like Six Sigma that was the commonplace in the workforce, and not Woke and Diversity training dominating the training schedule.
Granted we had once or twice a year training in regards to human relations and respecting diversity.
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WookieMan
2024 Sep 18, 4:51am
WookieMan
2024 Sep 18, 4:51am
AD says
I'm probably unique as an insomniac and late millennial. Besides vacuuming I get house chores done at 3am or 12am when everyone is sleeping. Low noise stuff. Laundry, dishes, maybe steam the tile in the kitchen because of dumb as kids spilling Gatorade.
Pisses the wife off as she doesn't see progress until the next morning. I already have breakfast prepped and ready to go. Kids wake up in 15 min. I'll have them ready to go with 30 min to spare before the bus.
My dad cooked maybe 5 breakfast meals.... total as a kid. I do it every day. Usually cook dinner as well. Vowed to be different from my old man. I am. He was an ass hole. Given my unique situation I think I'm doing well. Looking forward to nap time though. Still got to get 6-8 hours if possible.
its old school to them as far as working 5 days a week in the office
I'm probably unique as an insomniac and late millennial. Besides vacuuming I get house chores done at 3am or 12am when everyone is sleeping. Low noise stuff. Laundry, dishes, maybe steam the tile in the kitchen because of dumb as kids spilling Gatorade.
Pisses the wife off as she doesn't see progress until the next morning. I already have breakfast prepped and ready to go. Kids wake up in 15 min. I'll have them ready to go with 30 min to spare before the bus.
My dad cooked maybe 5 breakfast meals.... total as a kid. I do it every day. Usually cook dinner as well. Vowed to be different from my old man. I am. He was an ass hole. Given my unique situation I think I'm doing well. Looking forward to nap time though. Still got to get 6-8 hours if possible.
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AD
2024 Sep 18, 1:00pm
AD
2024 Sep 18, 1:00pm
WookieMan says
so younger generation (21 year old to 42 year olds) are more night owls and Coast to Coast AM generation ?
and more are not loyal or enthusiastic to the traditional 9-5 in an office setting ?
especially given a lot of them grew up on the internet and think work can be done at home just as better in a cubicle farm ?
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I'm probably unique as an insomniac and late millennial.
so younger generation (21 year old to 42 year olds) are more night owls and Coast to Coast AM generation ?
and more are not loyal or enthusiastic to the traditional 9-5 in an office setting ?
especially given a lot of them grew up on the internet and think work can be done at home just as better in a cubicle farm ?
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AmericanKulak
2024 Sep 18, 1:38pm
AmericanKulak
2024 Sep 18, 1:38pm
AD says
I was like this, then I realized : Massive booms in tech but the work hours are still stuck in the Industrial Era. Where's the efficiency? Certainly salaries haven't kept pace with inflation. If they did the average HS graduate with a few credentials or some courses/training would be making $80-90k
When somebody says "What are you talking about, huge rise in the standard of living" I say "Okay, how many people, including most college degree holders, can keep a wife and 2 kids and have a house on a single salary these days?"
We have way too many useless clerks. Maybe the efficiency was more than eaten up by regulations and makework jobs, too.
But the Hedonic argument is blown out of the water by the two-income trap situation. "Oh looky, my TV is 42" and LCDTVlgbtq+" is a poor tradeoff for the end of the single income provider with a house. That's not considering the massive levels of debt today vs. the postwar period. Previously, the only real debt a typical American family had was their mortgage payment, maybe a new car loan.
its old school to them as far as working 5 days a week in the office
I was like this, then I realized : Massive booms in tech but the work hours are still stuck in the Industrial Era. Where's the efficiency? Certainly salaries haven't kept pace with inflation. If they did the average HS graduate with a few credentials or some courses/training would be making $80-90k
When somebody says "What are you talking about, huge rise in the standard of living" I say "Okay, how many people, including most college degree holders, can keep a wife and 2 kids and have a house on a single salary these days?"
We have way too many useless clerks. Maybe the efficiency was more than eaten up by regulations and makework jobs, too.
But the Hedonic argument is blown out of the water by the two-income trap situation. "Oh looky, my TV is 42" and LCDTVlgbtq+" is a poor tradeoff for the end of the single income provider with a house. That's not considering the massive levels of debt today vs. the postwar period. Previously, the only real debt a typical American family had was their mortgage payment, maybe a new car loan.
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DhammaStep
2024 Sep 18, 1:47pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
It's better to accept it and move on. Few things are worse than getting stuck on people that are stuck.
I’m curious why people get stuck and stagnant
It's better to accept it and move on. Few things are worse than getting stuck on people that are stuck.
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AD
2024 Sep 18, 9:09pm
AD
2024 Sep 18, 9:09pm
AmericanKulak says
Yeah, and look at the response to Amazon calling back it workers to the office for 5 days a week. I wonder its because the majority of its workforce are 21 to 37 years of age and grew up with the internet.
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I was like this, then I realized : Massive booms in tech but the work hours are still stuck in the Industrial Era.
Yeah, and look at the response to Amazon calling back it workers to the office for 5 days a week. I wonder its because the majority of its workforce are 21 to 37 years of age and grew up with the internet.
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AmericanKulak
2024 Sep 18, 9:34pm
AmericanKulak
2024 Sep 18, 9:34pm
AD says
When you think of the commute costs, commute time, meals, clothes, etc. all so the boss can see your face. It's long overdue to work from home, it's time to consider imposing an "efficiency waste tax" on non-necessary commute jobs. if you're not physically needing to collude - like work on physical stuff in real time... they should tax the company for the wear and tear on roads, dependence on foreign oil, etc.
Whether you do inside sales or work on code, there's very few reasons you need to be physically in an office daily.
Also, it's great from a risk management perspective: Key Employees at home are less likey to get pranged in accidents, be involved in harassment complaints, etc.and if they did do fucked up shit, there would be a record on the company chats/boards/IP phone. Not to mention save MASSIVELY on office overhead. An IT or ad/marketing company could go from 4 floors to half of one floor.
That and most people would GLADLY take pay cuts to work at home, because the lost pay would more than make up for itself in vehicle wear & tear, gas, clothes, time lost commuting, meals out, etc.
Maybe we can finally get Amazon to pay tax.
Yeah, and look at the response to Amazon calling back it workers to the office for 5 days a week. I wonder its because the majority of its workforce are 21 to 37 years of age and grew up with the internet.
When you think of the commute costs, commute time, meals, clothes, etc. all so the boss can see your face. It's long overdue to work from home, it's time to consider imposing an "efficiency waste tax" on non-necessary commute jobs. if you're not physically needing to collude - like work on physical stuff in real time... they should tax the company for the wear and tear on roads, dependence on foreign oil, etc.
Whether you do inside sales or work on code, there's very few reasons you need to be physically in an office daily.
Also, it's great from a risk management perspective: Key Employees at home are less likey to get pranged in accidents, be involved in harassment complaints, etc.and if they did do fucked up shit, there would be a record on the company chats/boards/IP phone. Not to mention save MASSIVELY on office overhead. An IT or ad/marketing company could go from 4 floors to half of one floor.
That and most people would GLADLY take pay cuts to work at home, because the lost pay would more than make up for itself in vehicle wear & tear, gas, clothes, time lost commuting, meals out, etc.
Maybe we can finally get Amazon to pay tax.
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stereotomy
2024 Sep 19, 2:45am
stereotomy
2024 Sep 19, 2:45am
Ha ha ha ha. Globohomo corporations are all about sustainability, but the most sustainable workplace is a work from home workplace. No, that won't do, we need you to burn tons of carbon to drive in 5 days a week to the office.
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AD
2024 Sep 20, 11:27am
AD
2024 Sep 20, 11:27am
AmericanKulak says
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Amazon's senior management needs to "adjust" ?
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/former-amazon-engineer-says-companys-5-day-return-to-work-policy-causes-employees-rethink-jobs
"Daniel, who didn't want to provide his last name to keep his anonymity, told FOX Business that becoming an Amazon Web Services software development engineer felt like his "big break." In fact, it was a job he intended to hold on to.
However, after working from home for 10 years in various tech roles and starting a family in the midst of the pandemic, relocating and commuting to an office wasn't something he was prepared to do, nor would uprooting his family be an easy task. "
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Whether you do inside sales or work on code, there's very few reasons you need to be physically in an office daily.
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Amazon's senior management needs to "adjust" ?
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/former-amazon-engineer-says-companys-5-day-return-to-work-policy-causes-employees-rethink-jobs
"Daniel, who didn't want to provide his last name to keep his anonymity, told FOX Business that becoming an Amazon Web Services software development engineer felt like his "big break." In fact, it was a job he intended to hold on to.
However, after working from home for 10 years in various tech roles and starting a family in the midst of the pandemic, relocating and commuting to an office wasn't something he was prepared to do, nor would uprooting his family be an easy task. "
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AD
2024 Oct 14, 12:04am
AD
2024 Oct 14, 12:04am
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https://english.elpais.com/culture/2024-10-13/pascal-bruckner-philosopher-covid-has-revealed-an-allergy-to-work-in-the-western-world.html
Pascal Bruckner, philosopher: ‘Covid has revealed an allergy to work in the Western world’
The French thinker points out that confinement has given rise to a new generation of lazy people who are afraid to leave home and do not want to expose themselves to life
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https://english.elpais.com/culture/2024-10-13/pascal-bruckner-philosopher-covid-has-revealed-an-allergy-to-work-in-the-western-world.html
Pascal Bruckner, philosopher: ‘Covid has revealed an allergy to work in the Western world’
The French thinker points out that confinement has given rise to a new generation of lazy people who are afraid to leave home and do not want to expose themselves to life
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WookieMan
2024 Oct 14, 12:31am
WookieMan
2024 Oct 14, 12:31am
AD says
TL:DR - I don't want to be home. Philosopher is 100% wrong.
I disagree with that sentiment. At least in my world. More gets done if you have the right people. My wife interacts with the owner 4 times per year, that's it. She is the boss basically. Have phone calls Monday morning and that's about it besides her making sure operations is getting their shit done.
She golfs, conferences, events, etc. She literally doesn't have an office to go to. $8M in sales only doing quarterly meetings. Any extra visits are on the bosses boat in the Ozark's.
I don't think people value their time. Most people are driving at least 20 min one way to get to an office job. Why? You then sit at the office chatting with people probably blowing another hour. Don't forget the travel/gas if it's W-2 that you pay after tax money for going to the office. Likely an unnecessary stop at Starbucks. You'd just burned 2 hours of income.
We make more money. Travel more. Our kids experience more. I get to hang out with my buddies. Solo travel to visit my Montana guys and usually a group trip with other buddies from Michigan. If either the wife or I had to go into the office everyday, life would be hell. WFH has been massively beneficial to us. It doesn't make you lazy in my opinion. I'll do work almost 24/7 if I had to. I just don't want to, or have to, so I guess I'm lazy?
Pascal Bruckner, philosopher: ‘Covid has revealed an allergy to work in the Western world’
The French thinker points out that confinement has given rise to a new generation of lazy people who are afraid to leave home and do not want to expose themselves to life
TL:DR - I don't want to be home. Philosopher is 100% wrong.
I disagree with that sentiment. At least in my world. More gets done if you have the right people. My wife interacts with the owner 4 times per year, that's it. She is the boss basically. Have phone calls Monday morning and that's about it besides her making sure operations is getting their shit done.
She golfs, conferences, events, etc. She literally doesn't have an office to go to. $8M in sales only doing quarterly meetings. Any extra visits are on the bosses boat in the Ozark's.
I don't think people value their time. Most people are driving at least 20 min one way to get to an office job. Why? You then sit at the office chatting with people probably blowing another hour. Don't forget the travel/gas if it's W-2 that you pay after tax money for going to the office. Likely an unnecessary stop at Starbucks. You'd just burned 2 hours of income.
We make more money. Travel more. Our kids experience more. I get to hang out with my buddies. Solo travel to visit my Montana guys and usually a group trip with other buddies from Michigan. If either the wife or I had to go into the office everyday, life would be hell. WFH has been massively beneficial to us. It doesn't make you lazy in my opinion. I'll do work almost 24/7 if I had to. I just don't want to, or have to, so I guess I'm lazy?
I’ve seen three ways recently…
First I’m a manager at a work place where some employees have been around 20 plus years but probably 80% of the employees have been here fewer than 8 years. The long time employees have ridiculously long memories. And they keep bringing up negative past incidents that predate my time here x4. Like slights that I can’t do anything about . It’s crazy. Just before I got here a retired guy lodged a discrimination complaint based on an incident that happened TWENTY TWO YEARS AGO!!! Unfortunately the miserable supervisor that is subject of the complaint is inexplicably still here in the same exact role and very happy making everyone else’s life hell.
Second, some of the employees, most of whom are slightly younger than me, refuse to engage in technology which drives me nuts. Especially when the oldest employee here(by like 20 years…he’s approaching 80!) is readily diving into the new database and management system we are having installed. I had an Atari 2600 when I was 8, had a C64 when I was 13. Literally technology was a part of my upbringing in the 80’s. My brother who is 3 years younger, even moreso. I love my smart phone and think it’s improved my life and standard of living immeasurably. I am appalled at people that won’t do very basic things like open their email at the beginning of work or almost feign stupidity(it seems) when a software is changed. Keep in mind all of these employees are Gen X or younger. The dude approaching 80 is the only boomer in the group.
And finally….I collect baseball cards. Have since I was a kid. Times have changed and I’ve rolled with the changes. I do collect complete sets, which is an antiquated way of collecting. But I also collect individual cards I like. My collection is headed by a Shohei Ohtani autographed card numbered out of five followed by vintage graded cards of Jackie Robinson and Mickey Mantle. I’m all over the place really but point being I’ve embraced the modern market while holding onto the roots of my collecting. Others that grew up during the card explosion in the 80’s seemingly can’t let go. They bitch moan and complain about how terrible things are now. While third party graders have brought very clear condition guidelines to the masses and while card quality has greatly improved, these stuck in the mud dinosaurs long for a time that ended three decades ago, more than half my life!
And I don’t get it. I think life must be miserable if you never change, never learn new things. Thing is, I’m an ISTJ. I have massive respect for the law, for tradition and my first question at a proposal for change is “what are we trying to fix or improve”?
Ok, I’ll stop. I’ve clearly gone Ohomen. Apologies.