Fuck Europe! Thread
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2024 Sep 19, 3:08pm 5,233 views 174 comments
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Some data to use when some European bitches about America.
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Misc
2025 May 2, 3:43am
Ok, so here's what those crazy Chinamen have been up to.
They have been dumping treasuries and mortgage backed securities and buying up European sovereign debt obligations. They are selling so much that the real rate of return on 10 year treasuries is about 2%. That is 2% after inflation, and it is even higher for longer dated maturities. This is unreal for treasuries. Meanwhile European bonds are paying less than their inflation rate. So buying those bonds is a guaranteed loss in value over time.
Under normal circumstances this would grenade the Euro, but the Chinese are just buying so much of the currency for dollars that it has sent the Euro higher against the dollar.
The sheer monetary losses the Chinese are suffering are enormous.
The Europeans lowered their interest rate just this week and are looking to do it again in June. They are also gonna issue a huge amount of bonds supposedly for defense, but the politicians will squander the funds on pet projects.
The only problem is that trade follows investment flows. The Europeans are gonna be swamped by Chinese goods.
They have been dumping treasuries and mortgage backed securities and buying up European sovereign debt obligations. They are selling so much that the real rate of return on 10 year treasuries is about 2%. That is 2% after inflation, and it is even higher for longer dated maturities. This is unreal for treasuries. Meanwhile European bonds are paying less than their inflation rate. So buying those bonds is a guaranteed loss in value over time.
Under normal circumstances this would grenade the Euro, but the Chinese are just buying so much of the currency for dollars that it has sent the Euro higher against the dollar.
The sheer monetary losses the Chinese are suffering are enormous.
The Europeans lowered their interest rate just this week and are looking to do it again in June. They are also gonna issue a huge amount of bonds supposedly for defense, but the politicians will squander the funds on pet projects.
The only problem is that trade follows investment flows. The Europeans are gonna be swamped by Chinese goods.
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WookieMan
2025 May 2, 5:52am
WookieMan
2025 May 2, 5:52am
Misc says
That they won't buy. I don't care to learn about treasuries and bonds. Doing fine without that knowledge. I do know Euros are pinkies up when it comes to products. I don't see them buying the Temu type bull shit. Americans are the Chinese primary source of revenue. Good luck selling to Euros.
The Europeans are gonna be swamped by Chinese goods.
That they won't buy. I don't care to learn about treasuries and bonds. Doing fine without that knowledge. I do know Euros are pinkies up when it comes to products. I don't see them buying the Temu type bull shit. Americans are the Chinese primary source of revenue. Good luck selling to Euros.
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MolotovCocktail
2025 May 2, 9:11am
MolotovCocktail
2025 May 2, 9:11am
Misc says
Which is going to hurt European exports big time.
has sent the Euro higher against the dollar.
Which is going to hurt European exports big time.
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WookieMan
2025 May 2, 10:56am
WookieMan
2025 May 2, 10:56am
MolotovCocktail says
This is the fuck European thread. Fuck 'em. You're the OP. I'm not sure why we give any shits about anything across either oceans. It's two different worlds. No one with a thinking brain would think Russia, Europe, China, India and Africa would team up and do shit. They have 4-5 aircraft carriers?
Reality is we'll have to bail them out in the future when they cannot play nice in the sandbox. US needs to just stop doing stupid wars for 2 decades.
Misc says
has sent the Euro higher against the dollar.
Which is going to hurt European exports big time.
This is the fuck European thread. Fuck 'em. You're the OP. I'm not sure why we give any shits about anything across either oceans. It's two different worlds. No one with a thinking brain would think Russia, Europe, China, India and Africa would team up and do shit. They have 4-5 aircraft carriers?
Reality is we'll have to bail them out in the future when they cannot play nice in the sandbox. US needs to just stop doing stupid wars for 2 decades.
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stereotomy
2025 May 10, 9:19pm
stereotomy
2025 May 10, 9:19pm
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