patrick.net

While I feel bad, I really don't. You know where you live. Hurricanes do hit that area. Flooding does happen. There was a week of notice on the path. All you had to do was go East 200 miles and chill for a bit.

Your employer wouldn't be open. Get away from the area. I see the radar in my area and I take the kids to the basement and watch a movie if a tornado is possible. Adults need to adult. They didn't. Now the other adults (government) are not reacting. That's why you have to adult out of the gate.

So many failures on this one. Everyone has a thumb, including government. Stop pointing the finger and own up for it. I'm on weather pages, this wasn't some unknown. FL handles this shit in stride. Yes there's damage, but death is rare in the last decade or two and they take the brunt of it. Wind and water. This was a rain storm. Not even wind.

https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/alexa-calmly-tells-stunned-americans

Alexa Calmly Tells Stunned Americans Hurricane Helene Was Artificially Created, By Cloud Seeding
"It Was Also The First Manmade Hurricane In History." —ALEXA

Could just be an AI glitch, or AI getting too close to the truth. Hard to tell.

Don't believe all of this negative hype that this storm is a big deal. Our President (Joe Biden, not Dr. Jill or Kamala) has stated that the 'storm victims' (which storm?) are all 'getting everything that they need' and 'everyone is very happy.' So there.

https://rumble.com/v5hdp19-dementia-joe-wasnt-sure-which-storm-he-was-being-asked-about-then-said-they.html

And yes, Madame Vice President has visited the effected area and she also recently visited the Southern Border. She cares. She really, really cares.

I hate to sound callous but you shouldn't expect the government to save you or even help you. We know that as a matter of fact from recent history. The government exists to keep you in line until they're ready to harvest whatever resources they desire. Nothing more, nothing less.

We're probably not going to be able to vote our way out of this.

DhammaStep says

I hate to sound callous but you shouldn't expect the government to save you or even help you. We know that as a matter of fact from recent history. The government exists to keep you in line until they're ready to harvest whatever resources they desire. Nothing more, nothing less.

The government is actively preventing volunteers and donations, however. FEMA and Butt eggegg seem more concerned with stopping donations and volunteers than getting the job done.

DhammaStep says

I hate to sound callous but you shouldn't expect the government to save you or even help you.

Gotta agree with this. I don't care if it was a 1,000 year rain or whatever it was. Places that flood are obvious. Get out or move. And yes, every location "could" flood but there's ways to mitigate it. If you're going to stay, have plans. The forecast was spot on.

My neighbors in the other part of town will hate me, but I give no shits. 20" rainfall I could easily pump out in the new house. 3 sump pumps and nat gas generator. I'll never be without electric. Friends with the neighbors and will illegally trench to the storm sewer and get any water out. Higher ground. Our 2' below top soil ground water will be 4-6'. I'll have a pool that can eat up some of that water. 2-3 2k gallon water tanks buried collecting run off from the roof. Use it to water the garden.

Cheap, no. I don't fuck around though. My basement will have $60-80k in just equipment. Not talking structure. Going balls out on the theater. 13.2 atmos. https://www.crutchfield.com/p_033X8500HA/Denon-AVR-X8500HA.html?tp=179 220" screen. Haven't picked speakers or projector yet.

Then have my drum room. That's another $10k excluding what I already own.

The place isn't fucking flooding is my point. I'll take water and push it away. I've got the topography and know what I need to do. It would take something 10x's bigger than the flooding after Helen. Dealt with 20" around '94. We got flooded, but was preventable. My dad was gambling.... like at a casino. Lived it. You have to be prepared. He wasn't. You learn from your father's flaws.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/americas-governor-friday-october

Meanwhile, after making his great tour of the storm zones yesterday, the hamster in Joe Biden’s brain fell off it’s tiny wheel and the Former Vice President forgot what storm he was talking about:

https://x.com/RNCResearch/status/1842018660191195305

Here’s the actual conversation:

REPORTER: “What do the states in the storm zone need — after what you saw today?”

BIDEN: “Oh, in the storm zone? I didn’t know which storm you’re talking about. They uh, they’re getting everything they need. They are happy, across the board.”

Happy? Across the board? Really? Who is he talking about? Is something happening in space? Headline from NBC, this morning:

Hurricane Helene live updates: At least 215 dead as
some communities struggle to get basic supplies
People are still searching for loved ones, and many
residents remain isolated because of widespread damage.

Honestly, I don’t think Biden has any clue what’s going on. He just says stuff now. He has a running list of stock vague answers, meaningless throwaways, which are the intellectually caloric equivalent of a gas-station donut.

FEMA's top priority is...

Patrick says

Honestly, I don’t think Biden has any clue what’s going on.

He shouldn't be POTUS. The alternative is worse though. VOTE. I want him to stay in office until January. First time I'm rooting for Joe, not joking. I don't want the first woman to be a dumb ass fake nigger. I get leniency on that word #blackinthehouse. What I said is true though.

Don't promote the 25th anywhere. Let Joe ride to pasture. Only 30-40 days (not tracking). Shit will burn November to January, will be one hell of a holiday season. I like being wrong on this stuff. Joe needs to stick around and kick Kamala while she's down. He doesn't like her. And you know Kamala has peeps she wants to pardon. Joe is the old man that will tell her to fuck off. I kind of like Joe now that the filters are off.

Under Administrator Deanne Criswell, FEMA has realigned its focus towards Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI), influenced by President Biden's Executive Order 13985. The agency's strategic plan now emphasizes "equity of outcome" in hiring and disaster aid.

Additionally, FEMA has increased its support for NGOs with substantial grants for migrant aid, encompassing both legal and illegal entries.

This DEI emphasis, along with a push for climate change initiatives, has led to a severe deterioration of the agency’s ability to manage disasters—as evidenced by its string of errors in handling Hurricane Helene. The agency has gone so far as to impede rescue and support efforts by local volunteers and private groups while sitting on its hands.


Remember Deanna?

BREAKING:





https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1842252268856324160

Pretty difficult to know what the truth is of anything in this country. If anyone believes the media, you in deep shit.

Does anyone know someone in the area that can give a first hand account?

GNL says

Does anyone know someone in the area that can give a first hand account?

Yes. Have a high school female friend in Asheville, NC. While not good at all, it might be over exaggerated. It's bad, but she's a liberal nut so shit get's blow out of proportion with her. I blocked her and got frisky in my younger years with her, so yeah, she's that type.

There will be a lot of deaths. More than being reported. It's bad. No one can rebuild unless they are flush with cash. They're homeless. Not no floor insurance. This is going to be a cluster fuck. Mind you that most of these people are poor liberals as well. Defacto homeless 3-4 days ago.

Fact is none of them prepared. I would have just driven north to Ohio or similar. This is Darwin award stuff. They stayed thinking fucking 20" of rain is a nothing burger. Fucking idiots. Mountainous terrain that forces water into choke points. WTF?

WookieMan says

Fact is none of them prepared

Sorry that's bullshit.

Your super pump wouldn't have helped shit if you watch that metal container in the video above, these peoples homes got washed away by RIVERS that haven't run in 3 lifetimes appear in an hour, so if they had your super pump, 3 generators, 5lb buckets of rice, 6 feet wall of sandbags, etc. it wouldn't have made jack shit difference.

The superpump of doom, the diesel generator, etc. all would be washed away in a literal second like that metal container. So powerful it washed away heavy trucks and entire buildings.

These people are real hillbillies, they make moonshine to this day from Grandma's potato patch and berry bushes. They can fix up an old used CAT from ebay with some superglue and some old tractor parts. They don't doordash avocado toast and think Chef Changs down in Asheville is the Chinese Food ever the once a year they get to it.

In my whole life I never heard of a hurricane dumping so much water up in the hills. I don't blame the Media or Weather people for missing it because it's unheard of.

I have never heard of a hurricane making it all the way through the panhandle and the Georgia/Alabama lowlands (or, if from the east, Cape Fear and the lowlands of Virginia and the Carolinas) and making these steep streams flood like this. Flooding on the James or around Savannah sure. Holding most of it's moisture for 100s of miles inland? Never heard of such a thing.

While nothing stupenduous happened around the hurricane's landfall, days later way up in Appalachia they got so much rain that entire towns washed away at 2000+ feet above sea level. On BOTH sides of the mountain.

This isn't the Pacific or SW; you know the Eatern 3/4 of the USA gets rain all year round. Sometimes a pattern will have rains for weeks on end and dumps feet (plural) of rain, worse thing that happens is Earl drives his F-150 through a foot of stagnant water.

This was a once in millennia event, IF it was entirely natural.

Asheville is more towards the lowlands and not a narrow hollow

AmericanKulak says

WookieMan says

Fact is none of them prepared

Sorry that's bullshit.

No. If everyone upstream pumps it out and lets gravity work for them, it works. If you're on the low ground get the fuck out. Your house is toast unless you sandbag it. People died because they were idiots.

They didn't prepare knowing an accurate forecast. This isn't some conspiracy. This is humans being dip shits. There's no argument here. I don't even blame government. People with personal responsibility fucked up. 100% Prove me wrong? The dead are retarded. It sucks. I don't like dead people. Gotta call a spade a spade though.

WookieMan says

No. If everyone upstream pumps it out and lets gravity work for them, it works. If you're on the low ground get the fuck out. Your house is toast unless you sandbag it. People died because they were idiots.

Wookie, go watch some videos. There was a sudden torrent sweeping back behind them. There's no way anybody's pump was going to stop a wall of water several feet deep that cascaded over a saddle running at 20mph. NOT from the river or stream, but back behind that over the hills themselves.

No pump would stop this:


Water running down a channel dry for 100s of years slamming into the side of a solid school building, ripping the wall apart. Your pump would go flying faster than the basketball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSm3ywc_LIs

No Pump nor wall of sandbags 3' high and double layer would stop this, had anybody even considered water would come this way.



https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aityyQ6STt0

The initial force sudden force DOWN from the hills, not the rise of the river in the valley, knocked these homes over

https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/october-surprise

It was a point in my book, The Long Emergency, that our national government would become increasingly impotent, ineffectual, and incompetent as conditions worsened — and now here it is. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), could not bestir itself to aid stricken citizens around the flood-ravaged region in North Carolina and Tennessee. Sec’y Mayorkas of Homeland Security said that FEMA was out of money which, in this season of political weirdness, is especially weird, seeing as how the nation’s fiscal year began Oct 1, and Congress’s continuing resolution for funding US agencies should assure that FEMA’s checkbook is full. What was up with that?

Well, everybody and his uncle has heard by now that FEMA (and many other agencies under Mayorkas’s DHS) commits tons of money to pamper the millions of mutts from foreign lands sneaking over the US border, with lots of assistance from NGO cut-outs funded by your tax dollars, who marshal groups of aliens south-of-the-border for the crossing, and then fly or bus them around our country for the special purpose of distributing them in swing voting districts to then coordinate with other NGOs devoted to registering non-citizens to vote in order to “harvest” their ballots. Quite an operation. Completely lawless and corrupt. And official!

So, no aid for you, baskets of deplorables, shivering in the dark in your hills and hollows of Appalachia, your houses splintered, scant chattels lost, and your beloved hound-dogs carried away in the roaring torrents. The money that might have helped you begin to recover from the complete devastation of your lives is paying for Guatemalans to bunk in the Roosevelt Hotel and order-in quesadillas and churros, and refill their government-issued debit cards so they can afford a few nice things as they wait for mysterious others to cast ballots in their names.

This is the work of your Democratic Party, the party of chaos, party of the Woke mentally ill, party of wrecking the country, of America’s end times. And you’re going to vote for more of it? Of course not. And despite the attempts to knock him out of the arena with scores of utter bullshit lawfare cases, and efforts to shoot him dead, Mr. Trump keeps coming at them, an implacable, relentless force, the true Golden Golem conjured up by their catamite news media. Their inability to destroy him has wrecked their minds.

https://barsoom.substack.com/p/hurricane-helene-and-the-lost-mandate

There are multiple reports of bodies stuck up in trees (link has video). There don’t seem to be any pictures confirming this yet, but one can understand why people would be reluctant to take such pictures, or to share them. ...




... There are estimates that it might take months to restore power to some areas. This is apparently in part because a large fraction of America’s stock of spare transformers were sent to the Ukraine.




... Alejandro Mayorkas, the Secretary of Homeland Security who threw the borders open to invite in millions – possibly tens of millions – of invaders, has announced that FEMA is all tapped out. They spent their whole budget on social programs for people who should never have been in the country in the first place: $640 million in the current fiscal year, and $1.6 billion since 2022. There’s been a lot of outrage over the paltry $750 being offered to the flood victims, but to be fair this appears to be the legally mandated maximum for short-term emergency assistance, with long-term assistance for e.g. housing capped at more generous $42,500. None of which changes the fact that FEMA blew its wad on illegals. This is no doubt an essential element in FEMA’s strategic plan, the number 1 goal of which is not disaster relief, but the promotion of equity.

Some of the invaders Mayorkas allowed in were arrested for looting:




... Don’t worry, though: left-wing NGOs are on the ground, providing such essential services as abortions and free PrEP.




... One particularly dark take is that the Federal government’s apparent slow-rolling of the disaster response is a form of voter suppression. North Carolina is a swing state, and with the exception of Asheville the western part of the state is deep red MAGA territory. Voters who can’t reach a polling booth because there are no roads, no power, and no communications, and who aren’t even thinking about voting because they’re more focused on food, potable water, and shelter from the elements, are much less likely to vote. Keep those people from voting, and Kamala might just take North Carolina ... and the country.




... The mood is dark, now. There is no trust left. Nor should there be, after everything that’s happened so far this century: the pointless forever wars; the great robbery of the 2008 financial crash; the COVID lockdowns; the vaxx mandates; the stolen election of 2020; the censorship and soft HR tyranny of the Great Awokening; the visible mental decay of the ruling class, many of whom can barely string together a coherent sentence anymore; the population replacement of mass immigration; the open borders; the filth and crime and drugs flooding the streets; food price inflation, the real estate bubble, and the steady collapse in living standards.

The default assumption many people hold now is that the regime is composed of criminals, of enemies. It is difficult not to feel this way. It is, indeed, almost foolish not to.

So when the regime fumble’s the response to a disaster, many will assume that it did so deliberately. ...

There’s a third theme, though, which is in the long run the most significant.

While the state dithered, schemed, bumped into itself, and got in the way, the self-organizing networks of civil society responded immediately, seamlessly, and nimbly. Civilian helicopters were the first to take to the air; relief supplies were collected and distributed by spontaneously organized rescue missions that got to work right away, without waiting for permission, authorization, or orders.

This is a story we’ve seen before many times, for example with the completely disproportionate effectiveness of autonomous networks versus established academic structures when it came to parsing reality during COVID.

Isn't it interesting for 2-3 generations, it was possible for a man with a factory job to own a modest 3 bed house and cars and TV and vacation at the lake or shore, with a pension and a gold watch, we had a massive military with an active duty size at least twice of today's, 1000s of nukes and bombers ready to roll, moved divsions back and forth to Europe for exercises annually, had double the domestic and foreign bases (or more), yet there was no national debt to speak of.

But in just the 3 decades since the Cold War ended, we have $37T in debt, can't make a TV or Toaster Oven domestically, imported tens of millions of unneeded mostly turd worlders, and can't provide emergency aid to a section of the country located less than half a day's drive from the Capitol and other major metropolitan areas. Yet in that time we had the fax machine, microcomputer, internet, cell phone, smart phone, and that's just the communications and data tools, not counting the explosion of medical, manfuacturing, etc. technology.

Summer Mayorkas: FEMA is ready for hurricane season


October Mayorkas: FEMA has no resources after one hurricane.

AmericanKulak says

moved divsions back and forth to Europe for exercises

Yep, so one may wonder why Red Horse and SeaBee troops are not used to do Helene aid. A C-130 could drop tons of supplies on a school football field, along with the troops practiced in land navigation to deliver them. Washed out bridges can be replaced in hours with quick military kits that are strong enough for a 60 ton tank. Generators, fuel, and shelters could be spot delivered to wherever needed by cargo choppers. Also, pararescue crews could medivac the sick and injured.

This is all routine for the military.

So, one wonders what the Cali insurers are expecting with their anticipatory cancellations.
Earthquake engines? More DEW and HAARP?

https://t.me/tribunalsandexecutions/483758

There is definitely a pattern in the engineered disasters and false flags with early, broad negligence and the authorities blockading aid rather than delivering it as well as reported teams going into areas to murder targets under guise of the disaster and to either collect or destroy various public documents (aka 9/11, Oklahoma City) or to steal certain assets (Red Cross, harvesting bodies etc., transporting under color of aid, kidnaping children).

Local Freemasons likely are informed ahead about what needs to be done and not done. Management and disposal of corpses also has to be tight (Lahaina had portable crematoriums so no DEW blasted bodies could be examined) with cooperative pathologists and coroners. Also, the publicity stunts will be managed by Freemason politicians as in Lahaina for optics management. However, watch them twitch and shuffle as they lie since they are not as practiced as national politicians.

It seems that these are human sacrifices, and as such require the maximum extractions of suffering and death (loosh) for the rite worshipers to gain the most advantage. As said, in Lahaina, when the people were trying to drive out to escape, they were directed into road blocks and instead were incinerated. One couple survived because they backed up their huge four wheel SUV and just drove over whatever shit in the opposite direction they were being directed.

Yes, they EXACTLY want them to suffer and die. A human sacrifice isn't a sacrifice without the pain and suffering of the sacrificial victims. That needs to be prolonged and amplified.



https://t.me/tribunalsandexecutions/483779

Mayorkas had malice aforethought, knew about the weather weapon and was prepared to deny the aid for the human sacrifice.

Haitian illegal immigrants have been asked to help with the body cleanup, and hundreds of Hibachi's and barbecue grills have been set up for them. They'll get a bump in their Jesuit credit cards.

https://t.me/gatewaypunditofficial/55705

As usual, in the fog of disaster, there is information and disinformation. However, FEMA and DHS are Fourth Reich Globalist fifth column designed to exploit the wedge of disaster relief to insert their machinations against the Republic.

The IRS is a Vatican fifth column soaking our money and directing it to mercenary wars. Since their program is to destroy the Republic, no relief will be pending. Will they release at some point a plague of illegal immigrants on the previous American turf of the disaster. "Plague of Demons" from the Illuminati Card Game.

We need to get rid of these fifth column foreign agencies.

This is part of the Maui 'Warren Report' to cover up the massacre and land grab and re-characterize it for fake history. They stated at the time that the downed power lines were 'powerless' as they electricity had been shut off at least an hour before the DEW firestorm.

https://t.me/davidavocadowolfe/141582

My point is and has been the same. Fair warning was given. If you don't get the fuck out of dodge it's kind on you. They knew it was going to be a 100 year rain 3-5 days in advance. Figure it out or get out.

The response has been trash, I think we're all in agreement there. But residents didn't make plans at all. Both are to blame being retarded. You have a 100-200 year event with roads that were built in the last 50 years. In mountains. You get the fuck out and drive to Indiana and get a Holiday Inn room for a week and wait it out. Expensive, but better than being flooded and stuck. Find a place with a water park for the kids. Whatever.

I'm not sitting there knowing there's 20" of rain coming my way. I'm in farm land. Flat. I could easily pump 20" away and the drainage we have. It's why I picked the lots we did. We'd flood the flying fuck out of the lower neighbors to the West, but they bought in the wrong spot. That's my point. Get out or buy better.

My sumps will do 3,600 gallons per hour and roof collection of up to 6k gallons in underground containers. Sumps dump into the storm sewer. If the containers fill I can then start dumping my tanks for more water storage. I'll be able to handle 10k gallons of water an hour 300 yards away from my house at a lower level. It would take 30" of rain here in IL. Not happening. I'm iron doming my water collection/mitigation.

I can use it to fill the pool and water what should be a large garden. Kind of planning on an outdoor shower and pump in the rain water with a basic filter. This is as liberal/leftie as I get. The funny part is that area of NC is hippie town and they were sooooo ill prepared.

@wookieman, People in the area said that they had no advance warning. The storm was 400 miles to the south, with a mountain range between (which usually damps the hurricane, not accelerates it). Sounds like they went to bed expecting some rain and were dumped on until 10am, 30” in some places. They’d normally worry about storms from the Carolina coast, not gulf coast, for flooding. Sounds like a freak event.

goofus says

wookieman, People in the area said that they had no advance warning. The storm was 400 miles to the south, with a mountain range between (which usually damps the hurricane, not accelerates it). Sounds like they went to bed expecting some rain and were dumped on until 10am, 30” in some places. They’d normally worry about storms from the Carolina coast, not gulf coast, for flooding. Sounds like a freak event.

As a semi weather junkie and seeing if we'd get remnants in IL, the warnings were 100% there. 3 days ahead. No one cared. That's really not debatable. Local and Federal officials failed. I didn't call it here, but I knew what was coming.

I track every hurricane. Specifically for rain up in Northern IL. And yes it can get this far north as a semi tropical depression. I also like the Panhandle of FL so I track storms going that direction. I'm a Caribbean junkie as well, so I don't want my islands trashed.

There wasn't anything unknown about this storm. People should have evacuated. Go north or east. All models were dead on 3 days out. We'll see the death count. They should have gotten out and the models told them to. No one watched or listened.

Florida panhandle was told to evacuate, but how much northward should have done similarly? The storm track took out hundreds of miles. Should GA, western SC, NC, WV, and east TN all have evacuated for a Gulf coast hurricane?

There’s an element of “that wouldn’t have happened to me, I’m smarter” to us all. But I prefer the Great Depression approach of “there but for the grace of God go I.”