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Vance nailed it on immigration.

I can't believe the CBS mod did a deportation follow up to Walz

She's going to be fired in an hour, ha.

Boy did CBS really not like JD Vance's explanation of Temporary Protective Status and the Smartphone app that Kamala basically approves every applicant.

Walz does the Satanic Inversion lie thingie. He presumes that the MSM Mockingbird Big Lie media has more penetration than it does and he can base his 'logic' on those lies because nobody 'knows' they are lies. Propaganda repeating station.

Walz is sweatier than when he watched over the LGBTQ+ boys in the HS Locker Room

Funny how Vance 'leads' Walz on as the good cop.

Walz looks like he is easily hypnotized by whatever is proximal, some kind of narcissistic short attention span deficit.

Jack Poso
Question: Tim Walz, why did you lie about being in the Tiananmen Square Massacre?

Tim Walz: I RODE MY BIKE WHEN I WAS A KID

The moderators are lying, too, with the presumptions of their questions in which the conclusion (propaganda) is contained in the question.

Walz is a much less talented liar than the old real Biden, which is not a high bar.

Ceffer says

The moderators are lying, too, with the presumptions of their questions in which the conclusion (propaganda) is contained in the question.

Yep, like the Hurricane-Globaloney Warming question.

As if hurricanes never happened until "Climate Change."

Walz an obvious vaporware politician. If I understand government and law better than him, what does that say?
All the cartoon Dems are vaporware, entirely dissociated from the realities on the ground. They are fake government kabuki.

LOL! Satanist homo pedo Walz plays the Jesus and bible card.

Walz looks kind of bug-eyed and crazy.

It's not that Walz and KamalaToe lie like thieves, it's that the audience KNOWS that they lie. Maybe the ascending yuga is awakening some gray cells after all. More flouride, tamp down those gray cells!

Pretty funny. Walz beams and goes off balance when Vance feeds him a compliment. Somebody studied Walz' pathology.

Vance has been mopping the floor with Walz. One opportunity he missed was on the stupid abortion crap, he should have said, how many women died or were raped at the hands of illegal immigrants? 100 if not thousand times more than few womyn who set out on a trek to another state and then had a health issue occur. This is such bs, womyn travel around the world and certainly between states when they feel like it, pregnant and not. Suddenly they can't do it and die on the way when they aren't going on vacation, but having an abortion. If they can use 5 cases a year or less to argue for killing baby's up to birth why are they flooding the countries with rapefugees killing and raping by the hundreds each year?

Why the hell did anyone waste their time on this?

VP debates don't effect the election outcome worth shit.

"I screwed up, Xi. Please don't kill me."

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

Why the hell did anyone waste their time on this?

VP debates don't effect the election outcome worth shit.

They have shown to move the needle by less than a percent nationally, by a bit more on the state level. If you trust the polling historically

mell says

They have shown to move the needle by less than a percent nationally, by a bit more on the state level. If you trust the polling historically

No. Studies have shown that presidential debates in general do not matter in effecting election outcomes. The Trump-Biden one is a historic exception to that rule, of course.

Veep debates, even less. How many Americans do you think are not even aware WHO is the current Veep right now? Yes, even though she's running for POTUS?

In general, debates don’t matter that much for presidential votes. Debates are important in inverse proportion to the importance of the office. So, for instance, in presidential debates, most voters know already who they’re leaning to vote for because of political polarization. But if you get down to, say, congressional seats, they may not know as much about members of Congress, and so they learn more about the individual candidates.

Presidential primaries can have large fields of candidates. Voters may not know a lot about each one, and so there is an opportunity for a candidate to say something, or to act in a way that sticks in voters’ minds and makes them think more positively about them.

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2024/0625/presidential-debates-history-biden-trump-elections

CBS Shut Off Vance's Mic After He Mentioned "CBP One" App, Allowing Illegals To Apply Online For "Asylum" To Fast Track Them Into The Country

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1841290278205866205

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

mell says

They have shown to move the needle by less than a percent nationally, by a bit more on the state level. If you trust the polling historically

No. Studies have shown that debates in general do not matter in effecting election outcomes. The Trump-Biden one is a historic exception to that rule, of course.

They have been shown to move the needle by less than one percent nationally, potentially more in swing states due to smaller numbers of voters, so in a close election they can matter. US elections have become quite closer, with the exception of Bush v Gore (recount).

Patrick says

CBS Shut Off Vance's Mic After He Mentioned "CBP One" App, Allowing Illegals To Apply Online For "Asylum" To Fast Track Them Into The Country

Yeah, but that only adds fuel to the fire because ppl heard what he said.

mell says

They have been shown to move the needle by less than one percent nationally, potentially more in swing states due to smaller numbers of voters, so in a close election they can matter. US elections have become quite closer, with the exception of Bush v Gore (recount).

Bullshit. Close elections happen no matter what. Have NOTHING to do with the debates. Also, the majority of ppl who even watch the debates only do so for the first 20 - 30 mins only.

"Debates matter!" is just 100% Grade A copium bullshit that political junkies say to themselves. True.

Sorry dude. I used to fall into that trap myself.

No matter who you are favoring in this election, you have to admit that Tim Walz made the most truthful debate statement ever when he said "I'm a knucklehead."

Well, to be fair, a debate did put Potato to the pasture, didn't it?

This one was too close and uneventful to make a dent though.

DemocratsAreTotallyFucked says

mell says

They have been shown to move the needle by less than one percent nationally, potentially more in swing states due to smaller numbers of voters, so in a close election they can matter. US elections have become quite closer, with the exception of Bush v Gore (recount).

Bullshit. Close elections happen no matter what. Have NOTHING to do with the debates. Also, the majority of ppl who even watch the debates only do so for the first 20 - 30 mins only.

"Debates matter!" is just 100% Grade A copium bullshit that political junkies say to themselves. True.

Sorry dude. I used to fall into that trap myself.

It's not a trap. Just telling you what the polls historically show, if you choose not to believe them or blame the movements on other factors that's fine. Since the debate started until now the biggest betting market, Polymarket saw Trump close a 1.7 % gap down to a 1% gap until now. These are people betting their money that it can matter. Personally I think on a national level they're insignificant, in a swing state with a couple percent undecided voters the may very well be significant.