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Sure looks like Antifa to me.

BREAKING 🚨

The suspect in the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has been identified as 26-year-old Luigi Mangione.

He is known as an anti-capitalist, a climate activist, and likely a pro-Palestinian advocate.

https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/1866193110482768175

Batter up for the patsy? Out of the dugout. Guess what you did?

Sounds like an odd name. How come they didn't make him Iranian with a Russian handler? Another agitprop opportunity wasted?

socal2 says

Sure looks like Antifa to me.

BREAKING 🚨

The suspect in the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has been identified as 26-year-old Luigi Mangione.

He is known as an anti-capitalist, a climate activist, and likely a pro-Palestinian advocate.

https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/1866193110482768175

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Not buying it. That looks like 90% of dark skinned northeastern immigrant people in the US. Eyes and eyebrows are not the same. This is also assuming that the photos at other locations are of the actual shooter and not just someone that likes to mask up and go out.

As Ceffer said, seems like a patsy. Make the story go away until the trial. He'll probably be dead by then anyway. So no trial if I'm guessing. A hit will be put on the kid by other CEO's while he's in jail as a deterrent. Kill us and you're dead.

https://x.com/PepMangione

Well, they certainly launched him with the patsy dressings, including the manifesto bullshit. I wonder if he is a CGI legend and not even real. That would make him an Intel patsy dream machine. "Let's see if we can finally cut an entirely fake patsy out of whole cloth without even an actual puppet person. It's time has come. Our own AI generated patsy synth."

It seems that the hit was State sanctioned and now with the excess attention the patsy MUST be coined. Is he a white supremacist anti Zionist MAGA Iranian-Russian Palestinian agent? Never let a patsy go to waste without the agitprop angle.

There's always gotta be a manifesto, doesn't there?

And he still had the gun on him.

I ain't buying this.

But boy did the Blues try to hide the Trans-shooter's manifesto

When did they EVER leave a suspects social media up? Too bad he is not Blue Checked, dude is getting some traffic today.

I think if someone started a "Go Fund Me Page" for the accused, the authorities would completely freak the fuck out at the coin that would be contributed.

So, the new CEO of United Healthcare is doubling down.

Saying that their denials are in the best interests of everyone even if they are at twice the industry average.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/leaked-video-shows-unitedhealth-ceo-defending-practices-that-prevent-unnecessary-care/ar-AA1vxDtR

How about we just adopt Japan's healthcare finance system? They seem to do a good job of it.

The gun they showed on the news looks like a home build based on a P80 frame.

Misc says

denials are in the best interests of everyone

I am sure this fuckstick's motives are corrupted but I do think that unnecessary testing and subsequent unecessary interventions and prescriptions are a major US healthcare problem. Generally the less 'healthcare' the better.

Donald Light: “Epidemiologically, appropriately prescribed, prescription drugs are the fourth leading cause of death, tied with stroke at about 2,460 deaths each week in the United States. About 330,000 patients die each year from prescription drugs in the United States and Europe. They [the drugs] cause an epidemic of about 20 times more hospitalizations [6.6 million annually], as well as falls, road accidents, and [annually] about 80 million medically minor problems such as pains, discomforts, and dysfunctions that hobble productivity or the ability to care for others. Deaths and adverse effects from overmedication, errors, and self-medication would increase these figures.”

Yes, our medical system is both than twice as expensive per person as the next most expensive country on earth (Switzerland) and horrifically dangerous to patients, with medical errors in the top three causes of death all told.

Trying to navigate between the various doctors, hospitals, and insurers is itself a kind of torture of Byzantine complexity, something I think does not happen nearly as much anywhere else.

One problem is the relentless encouragement to "see your doctor" about absolutely everything all the time. Another problem is mass hypochondria, which I would bet accounts for well over half of all visits to a doctor or emergency room. So hypochondria is a major cash cow and no one has a motive to point it out and discourage it. Then there's legal liability for discouraging someone from seeing a doctor, even if statistically speaking, staying away from doctors is usually the best advice.

And then patients want the doctor to "do something", which usually means prescribing some unnecessary drug.

All non-emergency medical bills should be presented in advance of treatment, to let people shop around. Anything not on the bill agreed to in advance should be free. That one change would fix an awful lot of problems. But doctors and hospitals like to keep all the charges hidden until it's too late to shop. That is the core of their business model, and it must stop.

We know more about this CEO shooter guy in hours than we do months later about Trump's attempted assassin.

Kid breaks back on hike. Spine surgery, chronic pain. Turns to hallucinogenic woowoo bullshit healer, who "explains" that big pharma is of the Devil (not totally wrong), that we have to Liberate ourselves from Corporate Medicine. Gives kid a shitload of magic mushrooms and Nootropics and whatnot. This gels well with the Woke shit he learned in the Ivys. Kid goes full lunatic.

In a normal, traditional society, he'd have a few old fashions and his wife would give him a back massage.

https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/police-make-arrest-in-thompson-shooting

On Monday, Dec. 9, sources with NBC News confirmed the man -- who they identified as 26-year-old Luigi Mangione -- was being questioned in Altoona, Pennsylvania. The sources said customers at a McDonald’s in the area called police after spotting Mangione, who they deemed suspicious. Responding officers noticed he had a fake ID and took him in for questioning.

Once at the police station, officers discovered Mangione had a gun similar to the one used in Thompson's killing, as well as a silencer and a fake New Jersey ID with the name "Marc Rosario" on it, law enforcement officials told NBC News.

Sources had said the gunman in the shooting used a fake New Jersey ID with the same name "Marc Rosario" when he checked into a Manhattan hostel last month.

Mangione was arrested on unrelated firearm charges, New York City Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch announced during a Monday afternoon press conference. He has not been arrested or charged in connection to Thompson's death.

Mangione reportedly graduated in 2016 as valedictorian from Gilman School, an all-boys high school in Baltimore, Maryland.

The 26-year-old was born and raised in Maryland, apparently has ties to San Francisco, and a last known address in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Wouldn't anyone calm enough to do that shooting also be reasonable enough to dump the fake ID and the gun immediately?

Patrick says

All non-emergency medical bills should be presented in advance of treatment, to let people shop around. Anything not on the bill agreed to in advance should be free. That one change would fix an awful lot of problems. But doctors and hospitals like to keep all the charges hidden until it's too late to shop. That is the core of their business model, and it must stop.

And emergency bills should be set at a flat price from region to region.

"Why do you hate da Capitalism? Shop around during your stroke for the best bargain!"

Also, we need to reconsider our anti-polypoly strategy/policy outcome. I think medical care was better when there were dozens of small hospitals instead of a few big ones in each area

Finally, we need to accept the fact that 80% of lawsuits are B2B, not individuals trying to wring money out of poor State Farm. We also need some kind of "Fast Track" and Paperwork minimalization for long paying Home Insurance premium payers who have not made claims in over a decade getting the runaround when they finally DO file after a natural disaster.

Here's a really insane story about a property owner having his insurance company claim check refused by TD Bank, on grounds the insurance company might claw it back.

https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local-news/bank-refuses-to-let-some-fl-homeowners-cash-hurricane-insurance-checks

(Original Version: I remembered it as Wells Fargo)

“I never thought I would sit across from you and say, wow, fantastic, God bless insurance companies, but it helps,” he said.

That is, until he went to TD Bank to try to cash the check, only to learn that the bank, which holds the mortgage on the property, wouldn’t endorse it.

“They informed me that they won't endorse the check because they have requirements,” he said.

Those requirements include notarized documentation detailing the need for the money and how it will be spent.

But despite providing documentation proving his damage, Razavi said the bank isn’t budging. Instead, he’s being asked to provide more paperwork, including a claim adjuster’s report which is backlogged by at least a month.

Razavi isn’t alone.

His neighbor also got an advance check from his insurance company worth $2500.

But TD Bank won’t endorse that check either.

"Cash the fucking check is a terrible regulation that would burden business!" - RINOs, probably.

Patrick says

Trying to navigate between the various doctors, hospitals, and insurers is itself a kind of torture of Byzantine complexity, something I think does not happen nearly as much anywhere else.

Well put.

As I get to be an old fart, it strikes me that shit was far more simple in the days of typewriters and triplicate forms. Computers have seemed to make it too easy for banks, insurers, medical providers, etc. to cause a lot of annoyance and delays.

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/two-murders-tuesday-december-10-2024

Two local police officers nabbed Mangione while he was munching fries in an Altoona, Pennsylvania McDonalds. (He’s probably not MAHA.) According to unconfirmed reports, even though Mangione was wearing his blue surgical face mask, an anonymous tipster recognized his distinctive eyebrows.

Consider that for a second. Here is a link to some affordable eyebrow trimmers. Had he used them, who knows how things might have turned out. Just saying.

Officers reported that on arrest, six days after the shooting, Mangione was still carrying the murder weapon. I guess he really liked that gun. They also said that, even though he had a laptop, Mangione —who earned an honors engineering degree— had a three-page handwritten “manifesto” folded into his pocket.

Apparently, Mangione’s manifesto was an anticapitalist screed against big insurance companies, which he called “parasites.” NYPD Chief Detective Joe Kenny said, “It does seem he has some ill will toward corporate America.”

Yes, it does seem that way.

According to police descriptions of his manifesto, murderous Mangione targeted UHC only because it was one of the biggest and most profitable companies, and targeted Brian Thompson specifically only because he was UHC’s CEO.

Mangione doesn’t fit the New York Times’ preferred assassin’s profile. Maybe they were hoping for someone more diverse...

So he was 'caught' in a MacDonalds while wearing a face mask WITH the 'gun' and WITH his fake ID, after performing an anonymous shooting and well executed stealth getaway.

I guess the arresters had to the follow the signs saying 'Patsy this direction' while he was wearing a sign saying 'I'm the Patsy, stupid'.

AmericanKulak says

But boy did the Blues try to hide the Trans-shooter's manifesto

the chief of police, who works for mayor btw, probably got pressured to not release it. this is different, we will see. once investigation is done it’s public record subject to prr.

you can always request all correspondence related to it, it’s all public record.

Mangione was on Substack:

Patrick says

Sources had said the gunman in the shooting used a fake New Jersey ID with the same name "Marc Rosario" when he checked into a Manhattan hostel last month.

AmericanKulak says

As I get to be an old fart, it strikes me that shit was far more simple in the days of typewriters and triplicate forms.

You weren't an old fart then, so how can you compare?

Here is the dude screaming about his "lived experience"!

https://twitter.com/bonchieredstate/status/1866576276015677489

Even if he was denied some claims wrt his back issues, as an Ivy grad employed in tech he absolutely not the type unable to afford to pay for his care. Some people get this idea that paying for a fancy car you probably don't need all that much is OK, but paying for a surgery you absolutely need is an outrage. I can understand being angry at a surgeoun who botched your surgery to the point of enterntaining murderous thoughts, but doing this shit over fucking money? Cheeses H. Crust!

Patrick says

The dude is 26, isn't he? How many children does he have? Should be at least 4-5 by now, judging by his views on the subject of procreation... 🤡

Eric Holder says

I can understand being angry at a surgeoun who botched your surgery to the point of enterntaining murderous thoughts, but doing this shit over fucking money?

I got the impression that the murder was his way of objecting to the whole system of legalized extortion that is our medical/insurance industry.

Patrick says

I got the impression that the murder was his way of objecting to the whole system of legalized extortion that is our medical/insurance industry.

He's an idiot then.