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There are many ways to skin a cat and this particular one makes no sense to me.

We have over $10 million in new orders for infrastructure jobs that are now in limbo and having to be re-bid or even re-designed based on the huge increase in prices from the equipment we manufacture in Europe due to the 10% tariff.

Why manufacture it in Europe? I get you probably don't have control over that yourself, but that seems stupid if being honest. Forget Trump, your company could have been tariffed 100% back in December regardless of administration.

It would be like asking why doesn't Ferrari move its factory to the US.

RWSGFY says

There are many ways to skin a cat and this particular one makes no sense to me.

No one has ever even TRIED to skin the cat. Just constant lip service from both Republicans and Democrats.

I am personally willing to give Trumpworld some more time and grace over the next month to see what they can negotiate. I have probably felt more pain in my line of work this past week on tariffs than most here at Patnet. We have over $10 million in new orders for infrastructure jobs that are now in limbo and having to be re-bid or even re-designed based on the huge increase in prices from the equipment we manufacture in Europe due to the 10% tariff.

why doesn't Ferrari move its factory to the US.

With this immediate 145% tariff idiocy we'll have to deal with massive price inflation and/or shortages. Basically the same shit we endured during the coofdemic.

Aaaand iPhones are exempt from the idiotic 145% levy as of late Friday.

Pfft, you should've opened your own manufacturing facility in the US last week and not have this problem anymore. Just pretend it's WW2 and everything will happen in days instead of years. 🤡

I saw at Walmart and Amazon that Chromebook prices were still cheap, and also the ONN Android tablets were still cheap at Walmart.

AD says

I saw at Walmart and Amazon that Chromebook prices were still cheap, and also the ONN Android tablets were still cheap at Walmart.

Because they're trash. No computing power or RAM. Tracking everything you do. Even if cheap it doesn't mean they're safe or good.

AD says

I saw at Walmart and Amazon that Chromebook prices were still cheap, and also the ONN Android tablets were still cheap at Walmart.

Because they're trash. No computing power or RAM. Tracking everything you do. Even if cheap it doesn't mean they're safe or good.

4gig of RAM

AD was giving an example about how the price of low-end Chromebooks did not suddenly increase despite the tariffs and being made in China.

https://babylonbee.com/news/apple-warns-china-tariffs-could-impact-child-slave-employment-opportunities

A sub $200 Chromebook at Walmart still has 4gig of RAM, a 64gig SSD, WiFi-6, High-Def screen, dual mics, web cam, decent speakers for a laptop, and an Intel processor. That is way more than what is needed for those who do everything in their browser such as zoom meetings, email, Google Docs, streaming movies. Amazon shopping, or reading Patnet. Besides, you missed the point - AD was giving an example about how the price of low-end Chromebooks did not suddenly increase despite the tariffs and being made in China.

Try "Incognito" mode. It works very fast on Chromebook and on Android tablets.

I'm not going to chase down a comment and quote it, but I've said the same thing in other threads. Tariffs are unlikely to raise prices. The worst case is you see less of stuff you didn't need anyway on the shelf or online. Who cares? Most of it was trash anyway.

WookieMan says

I'm not going to chase down a comment and quote it, but I've said the same thing in other threads. Tariffs are unlikely to raise prices. The worst case is you see less of stuff you didn't need anyway on the shelf or online. Who cares? Most of it was trash anyway.

I heard the same such as on Marketplace on NPR, which is that there will be a limited supply of goods as the tariffs will cause certain goods to not be on the store shelves.

But China could send a $150 Chromebook to Vietnam which then adds another $20 to the price and then turnaround and sell it to the USA.

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But China could send a $150 Chromebook to Vietnam which then adds another $20 to the price and then turnaround and sell it to the USA.

But China could send a $150 Chromebook to Vietnam which then adds another $20 to the price and then turnaround and sell it to the USA.

AD says

But China could send a $150 Chromebook to Vietnam which then adds another $20 to the price and then turnaround and sell it to the USA.

Too difficult to do. Easily checked. Also would endanger any Vietnamese Trade deal, it's sure to be in there. Re-export is not that easy.

perfectly legal

Fortwaye says

perfectly legal

It's is, if you want to pay a fine or higher tariff. The origin is what matters. It's also trivial to open a chromebook at look at the parts and ID the origin physically.

https://www.cbp.gov/trade/rulings/informed-compliance-publications/marking-country-origin-us-imports

Dear President Trump,
@realDonaldTrump

I am the founder of a clothing brand called CUTS. We are a bootstrapped business that has been around for eight years and are a true example of living the American dream. We’ve built this business to millions of dollars in revenue over the last eight years, had a tremendous amount of success, provided jobs to hundreds of people, and I believe I am an example of the prosperity possible in America.

I voted for you in 2016, 2020, and 2024 because I believed in your vision for the country—and I still do. However, the recent tariff changes are happening too quickly. Removing 321 de minimis at the same time as increasing tariffs on China from 25% to 145% will be the death of thousands of eCommerce companies just like
@cutsclothing
. These are businesses that bootstrapped their way to success, created American jobs, and are now enjoying the fruits of their hard work in this country.

I understand and support the goal of putting America first—we are fully aligned with that mission. But the way these changes have been handled creates tremendous uncertainty for brands like ours. By placing tariffs on Vietnam and other countries, and then changing them so quickly, we are left unsure of what to do. More importantly, we need time to adjust to new legislation.

Regarding 321 de minimis, we were proud to use that exemption. In 2016, you mentioned using a “Hillary Clinton loophole” to lower taxes—and I respected that. That’s what a smart businessman does. Similarly, we used de minimis as a way to compete in a global market. Removing that, combined with the sudden implementation of heavy tariffs, would make our current margin structure unsustainable.

My goal in writing this is not to oppose you, but to stand with you in your mission of making America great again. We want to protect American jobs and help bring manufacturing back. CUTS is ready to help lead that charge—but it cannot happen overnight.

My request is that both the removal of 321 and the China tariff increases be delayed with enough time for U.S. companies to react—which, for production businesses, is at least 9 to 12 months. That time would allow us—and companies like us—to adjust, set up new manufacturing, and even pursue U.S. production that aligns with your vision.

I humbly ask that you take this seriously. Every day this continues, more businesses will fail. Solving one issue but hurting the very people who voted for you is not the best outcome. Mr. President, we believe in you, and we know there are things you see that we cannot. I hope you take this into consideration—so together, we can make America great again.

Respectfully,
Steven
Founder & CEO, CUTS Clothing
9:12 AM · Apr 15, 2025
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California is preparing to ask a court to block Donald Trump’s “illegal” tariffs, accusing the president of overstepping his authority and causing “immediate and irreparable harm” to the world’s fifth-largest economy.

The lawsuit, to be filed in federal court on Wednesday by California’s governor, Gavin Newsom, and attorney general, Rob Bonta, is the most significant challenge yet to Trump’s flurry of on-again-off-again tariffs. In the complaint, California officials argue that the US constitution explicitly grants Congress the power to impose tariffs and that the president’s invocation of emergency powers to unilaterally escalate a global trade war, which has rattled stock markets and raised fears of recession, is unlawful.

“President Trump’s unlawful tariffs are wreaking chaos on California families, businesses and our economy, driving up prices and threatening jobs,” Newsom said in a statement. “We’re standing up for American families who can’t afford to let the chaos continue.”

Relying on a statute known as the International Emergency Economic Powers Act of 1977 (IEEPA), Trump has issued a series of declarations imposing, reversing, delaying, restarting and modifying tariffs on the US’s trading partners.

The complaint argues that the law does not give the US president the authority to impose tariffs without the consent of Congress. It asks the court to declare Trump’s tariff orders “unlawful and void” and to order the Department of Homeland Security and Customs and Border Protection to stop enforcing them.

California is preparing to ask a court to block Donald Trump’s “illegal” tariffs, accusing the president of overstepping his authority and causing “immediate and irreparable harm” to the world’s fifth-largest economy.

“President Trump’s unlawful tariffs are wreaking chaos on California families, businesses and our economy, driving up prices and threatening jobs,” Newsom said in a statement. “We’re standing up for American families who can’t afford to let the chaos continue.”