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2025 Mar 9, 9:02pm   1,012 views  45 comments

by FreeAmericanDOP   follow (9)  

Harisiades v. Shaughnessy, 342 U.S. 580 (1952)
Syllabus

Argued December 5, 1951

Decided March 10, 1952*

342 U.S. 580

Syllabus

1. The Alien Registration Act of 1940, so far as it authorizes the deportation of a legally resident alien because of membership in the Communist Party, even though such membership terminated before enactment of the Act, was within the power of Congress under the Federal Constitution. Pp. 342 U. S. 581-596.

(a) The Act does not deprive the alien of liberty without due process of law in violation of the Fifth Amendment. Pp. 342 U. S. 584-591.

(1) The power to deport aliens is inherent in every sovereign state. Pp. 342 U. S. 587-588.

(2) The policy toward aliens is so exclusively entrusted to the political branches of the Government as to be largely immune from judicial inquiry or interference, and it cannot be said that the power has been so unreasonably or harshly exercised by Congress in this Act as to warrant judicial interference. Pp. 342 U. S. 588-590.

(3) The fact that the Act inflicts severe hardship on the individuals affected does not render it violative of the Due Process Clause. Pp. 342 U. S. 590-591.

(b) The Act does not abridge the aliens' freedoms of speech and assembly in contravention of the First Amendment. Pp. 342 U. S. 591-592.

(c) The Act does not contravene the provision of Art. I, § 9 of the Constitution forbidding ex post facto laws. Pp. 342 U. S. 593-596.

2. Procedural requirements of the Administrative Procedure Act are not mandatory as to proceedings which were instituted before the effective date of the Act. P. 583, n 4.

Page 342 U. S. 581

3. One who consented to the same individual acting both as presiding officer and examining officer in administrative proceedings is without standing, on judicial review, to raise the objection that he was thereby denied procedural due process. P. 583, n 4.https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/342/580/

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14   Misc   2025 Jun 23, 7:03pm  

HeadSet says

Why is Sudan willing to take the deportees? Do they need slaves?


We pay them $20 each to take 'em.
15   mell   2025 Jun 23, 8:32pm  

It's worth noting that 3 of the 4 womyn were dissenters in the SCOTUS deportation decision. Please don't nominate any more womyn, we already have Roberts!
16   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Jun 23, 9:38pm  

mell says

It's worth noting that 3 of the 4 womyn were dissenters in the SCOTUS deportation decision. Please don't nominate any more womyn, we already have Roberts!

TBH, I was shocked that ACB didn't find for migrants.
17   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Jun 24, 12:41pm  

Polymarket@Polymarket
JUST IN: U.S. on track to lose more immigrants than it gains for first time in 50 years.
https://x.com/Polymarket/status/1937491037813113153
19   Misc   2025 Jun 27, 8:48am  

The Trump administration is gonna fine illegals that overstay their deportation orders $1k per day. No notice needed. Then they are gonna make it retroactive for 5 years. Seize all property etc.

DHS says use the self deportation tool before it is too late.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/illegals-migrants-deportation/2025/04/08/id/1206056/
20   GNL   2025 Jun 27, 1:57pm  

AmericanKulakMaximumTrumper says






This is the way. Go after employers. BUT you have to make several high impact examples of prison time and even closing businesses down and auctioning them off. Go after the BIG employers. Especially those that have too much market power in their respective industries.
21   GNL   2025 Jun 27, 1:57pm  

Misc says

The Trump administration is gonna fine illegals that overstay their deportation orders $1k per day. No notice needed. Then they are gonna make it retroactive for 5 years. Seize all property etc.

DHS says use the self deportation tool before it is too late.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/illegals-migrants-deportation/2025/04/08/id/1206056/

This is the way.
22   Misc   2025 Jun 27, 8:10pm  

Here's a few extra hundreds of thousands that have to go...Annnnd they're gone through an expedited process.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-plans-to-dismiss-hundreds-of-thousands-of-asylum-claims-to-boost-deportations/ar-AA1HxWly

Gotta love it.
23   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Jun 27, 11:05pm  

GNL says


Go after the BIG employers.

Mostly the big guys but make it a thing to bust up some smaller contractors in the roofing and landscape business in every state and notify all the local stations and press and wine and dine them at a big announcement so it gets covered. Take out ads in Spanish language media advertising the DHS raids, too.

Brag about selling F-250s at auction along with pro riding mowers.

Any government accounts with Home Depot and Lowes should require an ICE poster at the exit and entrance of the stores to report illegals AND their employers.
24   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Jun 30, 7:30pm  

They had to break down a locked room at the factory to get the illegals.

25   MolotovCocktail   2025 Jun 30, 7:39pm  

AmericanKulakMaximumTrumper says

They had to break down a locked room at the factory to get the illegals.





26   AD   2025 Sep 2, 9:55pm  

More than 1.2 million immigrants disappeared from the labor force from January through the end of July, according to preliminary Census Bureau data analyzed by the Pew Research Center. That includes people who are in the country illegally as well as legal residents.

Immigrants (includes undocumented/illegal) make up almost 20% of the U.S. workforce and that data shows 45% of workers in farming, fishing and forestry are immigrants, according to Pew senior researcher Stephanie Kramer.

About 30% of all construction workers are immigrants and 24% of service workers are immigrants, she added.

https://www.mypanhandle.com/news/national-news/ap-1-2m-immigrants-are-gone-from-the-us-labor-force-under-trump-preliminary-data-shows/
28   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Nov 26, 7:31pm  

Every single asylum seeker and TPS and others are ON THE TABLE for deportation.

29   mell   2025 Nov 26, 8:02pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Every single asylum seeker and TPS and others are ON THE TABLE for deportation.

As they should be
35   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Dec 11, 12:51pm  

Corporate Income Taxes are Way Too Low.

It's insane that Personal Income Taxes are 20x that of corporations, the latter producing an incredible amount of income and wealth.

AMT for Corporations. In fact, if corporations are people, why have two systems? Tax them like personal income - or let individuals write things off like they're corporations. "Getting to work, cost of doing business. Lunch for myself? 100% deductible, can't do business if I'm starved to bankruptcy-death! My mortgage/rent payments? 100% deductible! Facilities for my personal self-corporation!" where only disposable income is taxable.
36   HeadSet   2025 Dec 11, 6:28pm  

FreeAmericanDOP says

It's insane that Personal Income Taxes are 20x that of corporations

Corporate income taxes are just a pass through. Depending on the elasticity of demand, a corporate tax is really a tax on shareholders or customers.
37   clambo   2025 Dec 11, 7:03pm  

Corporate taxes for USA corporations aren't good because foreign companies don't pay any.
38   MolotovCocktail   2025 Dec 12, 1:45pm  

clambo says

Corporate taxes for USA corporations aren't good because foreign companies don't pay any.


Easy fix:

Levy a 10% VAT that replaces the CIT and as much of employer paid FICA as possible.
39   MolotovCocktail   2025 Dec 12, 3:08pm  

Side note: With lips like those, reporter chick should set up an OF page that specializes in bjs.


40   Patrick   2025 Dec 14, 12:10pm  

MolotovCocktail says






The core of that makes a good meme:


41   AD   2025 Dec 14, 12:29pm  

2024 was not a COVID stimulus year and had around a $1.8 trillion deficit.

Now the deficit for 2025 is going to be less than the 2024 deficit when at least accounting for annual inflation, thanks in part to Trump's fiscal reforms.


42   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Dec 15, 4:21pm  




Fun fact: ICE doesn't need a warrant to enter public buildings!
43   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Dec 15, 4:42pm  

There should be one income tax scheme for all persons real or fictional, and capped at 3% on the downside ("AMT") and 10% on the upside. Even God doesn't ask for more than that.

Or better yet, a VAT which privileges high value added labor inputs but penalizes non-US labor costs, so offshoring to third world labor pays a higher rate than employing fewer, better paid Americans.

Corps are a modern convenience to raise money to do 'big things' (although most corps don't do 'big things' like intercontinental cable laying, but just serving pizza or milking a few cows on 20 acres).

I also dislike the labor/productivity focused taxation. Tax money making money and consumption.

The Tobin Tax, 25c for trades under $10k within 7 days or 1% of larger transactions, would be awesome. It would de-algo and front run naturally and put dividend seeking above churning. Brokers, even discount ones, charge a fuckton more than a quarter to buy or sell some shares (to address the "too burdensome" Wall Street Whine) so the burden on anybody not a multi-millionaire would be minimal. Even daytraders flipping a few stocks a day would typically pay less than a cup of coffee, which if that makes or breaks them, shouldn't be daytrading to start with.
44   GNL   2025 Dec 15, 4:55pm  

clambo says

Corporate taxes for USA corporations aren't good because foreign companies don't pay any.

Isn't that what tariffs are for?
45   GNL   2025 Dec 15, 5:01pm  

FreeAmericanDOP says

There should be one income tax scheme for all persons real or fictional, and capped at 3% on the downside ("AMT") and 10% on the upside. Even God doesn't ask for more than that.

Or better yet, a VAT which privileges high value added labor inputs but penalizes non-US labor costs.

If I lent Cousin George $100k for a share of his plumbing business profits, I'd pay income tax on that. Am I "Double Taxed?" because I lent it to George's sole prop vs. buying $100k of shares in a Fortune 500?

Corps are a modern convenience to raise money to do 'big things' (although most corps don't do 'big things' like intercontinental cable laying, but just serving pizza or milking a few cows on 20 acres).

I also dislike the labor/productivity focused taxation. Tax money making money and consumption, not individual productivity.

Those who have power over the tax code like it the way it is. Go figure.

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