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A simple proof that global warming is not man-made


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2025 May 4, 4:03pm   134 views  10 comments

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https://joannenova.com.au/2009/11/a-simple-proof-that-global-warming-is-not-manmade/


Now that ClimateGate has buried the fraudulent hockey stick for good, it is easy to prove that global warming is not man-made: just compare the timing of our carbon dioxide emissions with the timing of global warming.

Human Emissions of Carbon Dioxide

Emissions of carbon dioxide by humans are easy to estimate from our consumption of coal, oil, and natural gas, and production of cement:



The vast bulk of human emissions occurred after 1945, during post-WWII industrialization. Half of all human consumption of fossil fuels and cement production has occurred since the mid 1970s.

Temperatures

Global temperature proxies (sediments, boreholes, pollen, oxygen-18, stalagmites, magnesium to calcium ratios, algae, cave formation, etc. over a wide geographical range) show a warming trend starting around 1700, with warming and cooling periods about the trend:



Compare the Timing

The timing is all wrong for the theory of manmade global warming:

Temperature increases started in 1700, and the underlying rate of increase has been roughly steady (though there have been warming and cooling fluctuations around the trend).

Human emissions of carbon dioxide were negligible before 1850, and really only took off after 1945.

If human emissions of carbon dioxide caused global warming, then there would be massive and accelerating global warming after 1945 and almost no global warming before 1945. Obviously this is not the case.

Conclusions

There is almost no relationship between human emissions and global temperature, so global warming is not mainly due to human emissions of carbon dioxide.

Something other than human emissions caused the global warming prior to 1850.

The steadiness of the underlying temperature trend since 1700 suggests that whatever caused the warming prior to 1850 is still causing warming, and that the effect of human emissions of carbon dioxide is relatively insignificant.

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1   stereotomy   2025 May 5, 12:26am  

Obligatory: Dan Britt - Orbits and Ice Ages, The History of Climate"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yze1YAz_LYM

EDIT: I know it's a badtube link, but one of the key points of this talk is that up until ~50 million years ago, there were no ice caps. What happened is that India collided with South Asia, raising the Himalayas and the Tibeten Plateau. This exposed gigatons of rock to weathering, which sucked all the CO2 out of the atmosphere. This made the climate of the Earth susceptible to the Milankovich cycles (variations in the Earth's orbit and nutation) and led to periodic ice ages ever since.

Not only are the Chindians fucking with our country's jobs, but the very earth of India and South Asia have been fucking with the climate for 50,000,000 years.

Fuck Mt. Meru, I want temperate climate worldwide.
2   WookieMan   2025 May 5, 2:36am  

My take is who cares? The data you present makes sense to me, but we can't make a difference in anything either way. Our orbit isn't perfect. We move 1 mile closer temps might jump 0.1ºF. We're just spinning around this sun of a bitch with no control.

Given the distance CO2 is a none factor. Solar flares from the sun. Ice caps melt. Tectonic plates move. Which is the cause of water level rise? Yet we place it on CO2 that helps trees and crops grow that are good for us. So we have food and move "if" the water level rises.

All the facts for anything get buried at the end. I always start at the bottom of an article and go up. You can lie and get away with it with most people. I tend to read online content backwards.
3   Patrick   2025 May 5, 8:27am  

It's important to point out that the climate has always varied and that humans are not a significant influence on it because right now there is an attempt to grab power and reduce our standard of living by declaring a "climate emergency".
4   clambo   2025 May 5, 8:44am  

The sun's energy output is not constant, so no clear conclusion about humans causing anything can't be made, ever.
5   MolotovCocktail   2025 May 5, 12:19pm  

Also, global warming occurred at the same time on Mars and Titan, too.
6   Patrick   2025 May 5, 1:15pm  

@MolotovCocktail That's super interesting.

Got a link?
7   Patrick   2025 May 5, 1:17pm  

Found one:

https://johnstonsarchive.net/environment/warmingplanets.html


Mars: Various spacecraft have observed Mars from orbit from 1971 to the present, many able to provide a long baseline of climate observations. In 2001 Malin et al. (2001) found that images of Mars' south polar cap taken one Martian year apart showed small retreats (of about 1-3 meters) in the cover of frozen carbon dioxide. This frozen CO2 sublimes directly from ice to gas in Mars' thin atmosphere. Observations over the next few Martian years' (one Martian year = 1.88 Earth years) showed continuing retreat, resulting in expanding pits in the residual polar cap (Benson and James, 2005; Thomas et al., 2005; James et al., 2007). This retreat has now been observed over four Martian years.
Several global warming believers have been quick to state that this is a regional climate change. However, Fenton et al. (2006) and Fenton et al. (2007) have identified trends in changes in the reflectivity of the surface dust on Mars from 1976 to 2000. From observed albedo changes they have used models to estimate a global annual air temperature increase of 0.65° C. The direct cause of this predicted temperature change is a change in the distribution of darker dust on Mars' surface, and the resulting warming could be a factor in the retreat of Mars' south polar ice. One proposed root cause of this climate change could be slight shifts in Mars' axial tilt or orbital eccentricity: such changes have also been proposed as key drivers in changing Earth's climate between glacial and interglacial conditions (i.e. starting and ending ice ages). These shifts involve very long timescales on Mars as well as Earth, making this an inadequate explanation for the changes observed currently. Internal variations in Mars' climate, as opposed to influences from solar output changes, are likely at work, but this issue is unresolved.
10   MolotovCocktail   2025 May 8, 7:42pm  

Patrick says

MolotovCocktail That's super interesting.

Got a link?


Patrick says




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