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rocketjoe79 says

I was referring to Israeli nukes.

Israel doesn't have anything that could carry a payload big enough to do the job, even if they had a Big nuke (which I doubt).

Nope. that target has to be done by the US, with a shaped nuclear charge. Then we would have to put up with all kinds of crap for using a nuke.

Pre-Omeed purchased Tuqar, when he was Chatsworth

The Bunker Buster stuff is a misdirect.

The IDF went through every scenario.

I guarantee they either have a series of smaller penetrative bombs that can be carried by twin-engine fighters, or...

Two engines, hmmm. Need more than that... ohhhhhhh, aha!

They do basically control Iranian airspace now.

Right, "Spooky"?

I do like how the Israelis used the flimsiest of excuses to start targeting Iranian infrastructure.

I have dunnit too in their situation. Who's gonna call them out on blatant war crimes???? - South Africa ???

They've had to put up with all kinds of name calling in the UN for so long, that when it's true. the shit just sounds like more rhetoric.

Misc says

I do like how the Israelis used the flimsiest of excuses to start targeting Iranian infrastructure.

I think bombing the oil was valid, since Iran is just lobbing missiles into downtown areas and claiming every one they hit is a secret base, but only civilians die. Even in that 90% Arab surburb of Haifa.

90% of Irans oil goes to CHYna, anyway. And it puts pressure on the regime to collapse. It's also why sanctions are no longer leverage.

And oil/energy has always been a valid target. NATO targeted Serbian energy stores/power plants in the 90s. And many other wars And non-Western. India blew up Karachi oil tanks in 1971.

Unlike Syria or Iraq, Iran definitely has a government-in-exile that has a history of legitimacy waiting in the wings beloved by millions.

One also notices there is no attacks by and no demonstrations to speak of by Iranian expat normies (ie not secret student activists)

AmericanKulak says

I'm happy with Israel going it alone, but already those who goalpost shifted from "No STUPID Wars, Peace through Strength" to "No Airstrikes" are now trying to push the goalpost fruther to "No Ammo/parts for Israel"...

I've been saying over and over, having failed to push from the Left, the globalists will now start a right infiltration, and it's paying massive dividends. Trump isn't even getting a honeymoon from a chunk of his supporters, despite the obstacles put in front of him that he does overcome relatively quickly.

If they go it alone with regional partners that's fine, but the ammo part is tricky as we have seen in the Russian/Ukranian war. Also I don't think the globalists have to do anything as it was well known that many Trump supporters are staunch America First or isolationists who wanted to retract the unconditional support for Istael, he has to deal with his diverse base. I think it's a chance missed for diplomacy. If the neighboring states think Iran is a threat, they probably will deal with it. Let's hope it will be brief and successful.

AmericanKulak says

Just pick up the phone Khameni, c'mon and give peace a chance.

then he went on FoxNews and confirmed he knew of attack and blessed it. I did not vote for more wars.

Fortwaye says

then he went on FoxNews and confirmed he knew of attack and blessed it. I did not vote for more wars.

Knowing and blessing are the same as being otherwise involved.

Maybe they shoulda used some of those 'deception strategies' for their dead leaders.

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1933645555491876990

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/06/shock-report-iran-admits-israel-has-infiltrated-highest/

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-proclaims-total-air-superiority-over-iranian-capital-area-war-intensifies

This seems to outline Trump's 'weakness' in his battle with the independent SES/CIA/MIC entities still tied into the 'Three Cities' paradigm and Israel as a proxy state doing their bidding in the Middle East? Trump still has 'home turf' problems to settle before he can break the boss chain to make it 'Two Cities' instead of 'Three Cities'.

Main goal is to expedite regime change and return Iran to the 'secular' aka bloodline Pahlavi (Pallavicini)? The Euro demon masters love their bloodlines. "Israeli gangster servants, go kill those mullahs!" The cast chicken bones in the temple of Aphrodite seem to indicate that Pahlavis will be back in business before the end of the year. Independent agency of Israel is a promulgated fiction?



Persian bloodlines and Jesuits pdf

https://x.com/IranObserver0/status/1934000529027600444

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/06/13/remarkable-online-poll-highlights-90-percent-of-respondents-do-not-want-usa-involved-in-israel-war-against-iran/

Double Standard

The_Deplorable says

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/06/13/remarkable-online-poll-highlights-90-percent-of-respondents-do-not-want-usa-involved-in-israel-war-against-iran/

I guess the question is, what have the desires of the American People ever had anything to do with it? We are hostile indigenous dead ocean chattels to the overseas plotters. Our consent can be 'manufactured'. Completely false versions of the world stage will be shoved down our throats like pate grain geese.

These ancient conflicts will test Trump's 'mercantile vision' that all of these entities can be bribed with economics. The Euro axis being bent on WWIII means going for broke and diving into the tunnels. International bribery does not seem to be an antidote to their Satanic designs in the long run. They are operating from a prison camp control grid arc that does not give a shit about rational or even self interested behaviors. It demands fountains and rivers of blood and suffering.

The middle eastern blog breaks down into ad hominem, LOL!

More LOLs as the Persian KommieKunts pitch in.

"Will those who are not infiltrators please stand up?"

More 'Propaganda and Fog of War Lies Whack-a-Mole'. What is daft propaganda, and what is 'reality'?

MacGregor, aka MacCarnac the Magnificent "Attacks intensifying". The missile attacks are actually dropping off rapidly. Last one was barely 100 missiles and it's only going into day 3.

The_Deplorable says

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/06/13/remarkable-online-poll-highlights-90-percent-of-respondents-do-not-want-usa-involved-in-israel-war-against-iran/

I agree, 1000%.

Israel and Iran are foreign countries. The US should not get involved.

The_Deplorable says

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/06/13/remarkable-online-poll-highlights-90-percent-of-respondents-do-not-want-usa-involved-in-israel-war-against-iran/

That Twitter online poll is certified 99% American voters voting once?

"Why can a crazy ex felon not possess a firearm, when Marvin the Accountant can have one?"

AmericanKulak says

"Why can a crazy ex felon not possess a firearm, when Marvin the Accountant can have one?"

Fair point, but the US is the only nation which has ever used an Atomic bomb, so except for history is always written by the winners there is no moral ground for the US to dictate who can and who can't. At least in the eye of most of the rest of the world. Israel has legitimate concerns as a neighbor, but you'd think so would the other Middle Eastern states. We all know just because you're a state with similar religious make up doesn't make you immune to being a target amongst "your own", even on the slightest disagreements (see the middle eastern history of infighting or the democrats/leftoids).

mell says

legitimate concerns as a neighbor, but you'd think so would the other Middle Eastern states

They do. I mentioned this in an earlier post in this thread. Here is MbS flat out saying they will get a bomb if Iran does. And, because Saudi has a deal with Pakistan (that is dependent on Saudi aid in many areas), they will get several bombs immediately, no R&D required.

"If they get one, we HAVE to get one"


Like Feminism, Internalized Leftism/Postmodernism Foucaultism has penetrated deep into American Society. We did win, we're winners, we're moral.

Also losers do sulk off and write histories all the time and push for generations to rewrite it so they were the wronged heroes.

Has any US paper reported on the damage in Israel?

Ceffer says

Grok'd.

Lol, wtf?

The claim that Tel Aviv is burning lacks
credible evidence as of June 13, 2025. No
major news outlets report fires or attacks in
Tel Aviv today, with sources like The Times
of Israel describing the city as calm despite
regional tensions.

The major news outlets are NOT credible evidence of anything, and all Israeli news has to agree to military censorship to operate at all.

Patrick says

The major news outlets are NOT credible evidence of anything, and all Israeli news has to agree to military censorship to operate at all.

@Patrick, go look at a livestream of Tel Aviv in daytime after the attacks.

You'd never know there was round of Atari Missile Command happening over it in previous nights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S3040eVT4Y

The missile slavos are going steadily down; the more Iran fires, the more they reveal their operation area and the less they have both launchers and missiles. Last salvo was a measely 50, and the one before that barely 100.

MacGregor's vaunted "1000s of missiles would hit every US base in the Middle East if we went to war with Iran" is a joke at this point; the Iranians are struggling just to get Missiles into general urban areas. Never mind individual hangars, radar sets, etc.

Many are disappointed that Iran can barely kill a hand or two count worth of Israeli civilians in mass salvos of 100s of missiles.

I just hope the BRICS countries don't intervene. Hahahahahaha

AmericanKulak says

They do. I mentioned this in an earlier post in this thread. Here is MbS flat out saying they will get a bomb if Iran does. And, because Saudi has a deal with Pakistan (that is dependent on Saudi aid in many areas), they will get several bombs immediately, no R&D required.

So they will get them anyways, no matter what they say, after all SA was apparently mainly involved in 911 etc, are we going to bomb them as well then? It's the same argument people are making who are saying Putin broke all contracts, so no use bringing him to the table and use diplomacy. Despite how screwed up some regimes look, I believe they don't want to nuke each other, otherwise Pakistan India wouldn't be standing anymore. Hopefully regime change will come, but that doesn't mean we should abandon diplomacy.

Let's recall that 2 of the past 3 admins got on their knees for Iran with John Kerry, Ben Rhodes, etc. up to and including the infamous "Palettes of Cash"

What did Iran do with the money Obama and Biden gave them?

Bailed out their economy and spent it on funding Hezbollah, Hamas, and Houthis with weapons. Not only negotiations but giving money failed royally. If anything, the negotiations brought time for the nukes, armed Iran's proxies, and allowed the regime to survive an Economic Crisis that was about to overthrow it.

Then Trump gave Iran 60 days. On the 61st, Bibi attacked Iran.

The IAEA censored Iran for deception and non-cooperation about it's nuclear plans I believe late 2024.