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Trump had a B2 fly over Putin's head.

Hopefully the same B2 that bombed Putin's Islamist goat-fucker allies in Iran.

https://x.com/Channel8English/status/1956442451113361818

socal2 says

MolotovCocktail says

It's going to be a cease-fire. A.k.a. armistice.

This will be the map:

What happened to this map? Your new map doesn't even include all the "Certain" areas you were so confidently crowing about for the last year.

Someone else posted that map you are displaying, not me.

And since then the map I posted on Aug 8 here has been updated with 4 new possible maps:

https://patrick.net/comment?comment_id=2198573

And they look a lot more like the one you attribute to me, if that makes a difference.

Do keep up with that which you bitch about, will ya?

Trump trolls Putin with stealth bomber overflight:

MolotovCocktail says

And since then the map has been updated.

https://patrick.net/comment?comment_id=2198573

Do keep up with that which you bitch about.

None of those maps match the "new" one you posted at the top of this thread.

No Kherson or Zaporizhia. Basically half of what you called "certain".

But keep moving those goalposts!

Hundreds of thousands dead and wounded Russians and new NATO members on Russia's border..........for what?

socal2 says

None of those maps match the "new" one you posted at the top of this thread.

Yeah. Because they are UPDATED ones. You have reading comprehension probs?

What goalposts? I don't set the agenda for the talks. I just post what I know when I know...like everyone else here.

You can't even figure out who posts what.

Here you go, tho. Just for you:



What next? Want me to help you find your binky?

MolotovCocktail says

Yeah. Because they are UPDATED ones. You have reading comprehension probs?

Your "updated" maps don't match your latest "update" at the top of the thread showing only half of what you were calling "certain" for the last 2 years.

If your latest updated map becomes reality, I think most Ukrainians will think it was worth defending their country from Russia taking much more land, disbanding their military and political leadership and installing a puppet regime.

socal2 says

Your "updated" maps don't match your latest "update" at the top of the thread showing only half of what you were calling "certain" for the last 2 years.

THAT is because they are UPDATED maps.

And where do I state my previous was 'certain'?

MolotovCocktail says

THAT is because they are UPDATED maps.

Again, if these UPDATED maps become reality, Russia will walk away with just 50% of their most minimum goal that was all but "Certain" by the likes of you until a few minutes ago.

Pretending that this is not a massive loss to Russia's initial goals despite all the blood and treasure they wasted over the last 3 years is kidding ourselves.

There are no winners in all this. But IF these maps hold, Ukraine will be totally vindicated to put up a fight and defend their nation from a total take over from Russia.

socal2 says

their most minimum goal that was all but "Certain" by the likes of you until a few minutes ago.

Again: Where da fuq did I say 'certain'? Especially a few minutes ago?

socal2 says

Russia will walk away with just 50% of their most minimum goal that was all

Show proof of their 'minimum' goal, then.

You keep making up shit...several comments now. So I am asking for proof.

You tell me what Russia's goal has been in all this?

Please be specific.

I believe Ukraine's goal was to:

- Maintain their government free of Russian influence - check
- Maintain an armed military - check
- Maintain their existing borders - Ukraine was able to fight hard and recoup about 80% of the land that Russia initially conquered in early 2022

To you this means that "UKRAINE IS FUCKED".

What does it mean for Russia to lose hundreds of thousands of men, lose lucrative oil customers in Europe, destruction of their Navy, loss of military credibility and customers, destruction of major oil refining infrastructure and hasten the implosion of BRICS as a counterweight to the US?

I think it is pretty hard to argue that Russia wouldn't be in a superior and stronger place economically and militarily if they never started this cock-up of a war only to achieve a few border adjustments that gives them some land ruined by war that will take decades to clean of landmines.

@socal2

We are waiting.

MolotovCocktail says

socal2 says

their most minimum goal that was all but "Certain" by the likes of you until a few minutes ago.

Again: Where da fuq did I say 'certain'? Especially a few minutes ago?

If Trump hands over Switzerland, City of London, and the Vatican to Putin, along with whatever land gluttonous territory of the former Ukraine he wants, then the summit will be a success.

MolotovCocktail says

Again: Where da fuq did I say 'certain'? Especially a few minutes ago?

You say it every day by saying "UKRAINE IS FUCKED"

What did you mean posting this map here?

https://patrick.net/post/1343769/2022-02-24-greeted-like-liberators-ukraine?start=4547#comment-2175661

socal2 says

MolotovCocktail says

Again: Where da fuq did I say 'certain'? Especially a few minutes ago?

You say it every day by saying "UKRAINE IS FUCKED"

So I never said my maps were 'certain'. You got caught lying about it. Now magically want to change it to 'UKRAINE IS FUCKED' to avoid accepting accountability for your lie.

What did you mean posting this map here?

https://patrick.net/post/1343769/2022-02-24-greeted-like-liberators-ukraine?start=4547#comment-2175661

Simple. Was showing a map similar to what Headset and Ceffer were talking about. AS ANYONE CAN TELL. So what?

Neither Trump nor Putin drink alcohol. Trump's brother died of alcoholism.

This is a bullshit non-event.

The only solution is to blast Putin back to the stone age; I don't know if the West wants to spend the money on missiles to do it.

Putin takes the first fucked up question from the American media:

Question: "Why do you keep moving the goalposts? Aren’t you CERTAIN your battle maps are accurate?"

Putin: "Because...it's a fucking W-A-R. Shit changes all the time. Duh!"

"But you said "UKRAINE IS FUCKED!"

Putin: "Who are you and what org you report for?"

"socal2, with PatNet's Bullshit & Magical Thinking Thread"

Onwards to the Dnieper and Odessa! Bombs away!

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/22445

MolotovCocktail says

That's a great Troll-bait account:

"Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy" c'mon, that's not even a real word

PanicanDemoralizer says

MolotovCocktail says

That's a great Troll-bait account:

"Petropavlovsk-Kamchatskiy" c'mon, that's not even a real word

Keep reading the comments. He has more trolls.

Was the meeting a misdirection troll? I thought it was strange they would claim to be talking about Ukraine and get anything done in three hours.

https://x.com/vincentcrypt46/status/1956509830371270919?s=46&t=R0ivzMnZs2uEIgO9fs-S4Q

More comms from the comms mill?

If Trump took a time machine and replaced Abraham Lincoln, he would have let the Confederate states secede.
"There's been too much fighting already, it's time to let them secede; peace is the most important goal."

I like many things that Trump is doing, but he's suffering for drinking too much of his own KoolAid; he cannot charm Putin into not being crazy.
Putin doesn't care if Russia has 4 million casualties; he's doing just fine and that's what matters to him and other megalomaniacs.

MolotovCocktail says

Regardless of flight path or time. It was the ultimate troll by Trump. "Hey, meet at the land you used to own." "Oh shit look at those B-2's up there."

It was a show of force and dominance. Putin loves his history of Russia and the USSR. Trump was saying fuck you. Look at what I have. Will it result in anything, likely no. I saw people bitching about Putin speaking first. I didn't get that. Why wouldn't you want the last word on territory that was once theirs with B-2's flying over?

The other thing is this was done on a Friday. You'll get the Sunday shows that most people are hung over or doing their last summer trip. 90% of people are not going to watch any of it. Most people didn't even know this was happening. Trump knows PR. There's a chance it doesn't go well and gets buried on a weekend news cycle in summer. Doesn't make him look bad. He looks good to the people that care is the point.

I think this was a shot at Z (Ukraine). I'm not fucking around. B2's and Alaska, how much more could you emasculate Putin? I think Z is next in the crosshairs. There's a strategy here it just took too much time.

If he had gone the other direction, he would have slid off the flat earth. Everybody knows that.
MolotovCocktail says

Trump ceded Alaska back to Russia in exchange for casino rights in Russia and the former Ukraine.

Wow, Donnie again got absolutely nothing. Not even a cesefire he's been pursuing since Feb.

The Art of the Deal, bitchez!

RWSGFY says

Wow, Donnie again got absolutely nothing. Not even a cesefire he's been pursuing since Feb.

The Art of the Deal, bitchez!

Wow. What do you know what he got or didn't?

"Dr. Joseph P. Farrell’s Enlightening Speculations the day before the Trump / Putin Summit RE: a Possibility of Reviving the Trans-Continental Railway Project"
view pdf Trump Putin Transport Links Between Alaska and Siberia?

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=258316

Something of a dream but man would it piss off China (and to a degree, Europe and Arabs) alike if the US-Russia had a renewed interest in the West Coast-Vladivostok Route.

If the US and Russia formed a block (esp. with Japanese assistance) we would control pretty much the entire Northern Hemisphere land mass above 40N - which is a great deal of the entire planet's land mass in total.

The Media narrative is hilarious.

Does anybody believe all these Europeans are coming over here tomorrow because no progress was made?

They're coming here to make sure the EU-Russian gas supply is secure, whatever deal gets made.