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socal2 says

What quantities or super weapons does Russia need to finally achieve their bare minimum goals nearly 4 years into this total shit show?

Again, these are just MSM/NATO talking pointes that have little basis in reality.
Russia is not the USA or Israeli, if they 'Shock & Awe' Ukraine, they'll kill many of their own people living there, and will have to deal with the resulting humanitarian crisis... The civilian death-rate is extremely low compared with other US/NATO lead conflicts...
Why rush when you have 'escalatory dominance', see NATO stockpiles depleted, and a deindustrialised Europe with increasing domestic energy prices...?
Anyone who thinks they can intimidate a nation that has nukes, Oreshniks, a world leader in hypersonic missiles, and a massive industrial capacity, needs to do a reality check.

UveBeenNudged1 says

Anyone who thinks they can intimidate a nation that has nukes, Oreshniks, a world leader in hypersonic missiles, and a massive industrial capacity, needs to do a reality check.

So there only threat is that they can nuke the world with their aging nuke arsenal?

The last 4 years have shown the world that Russia's conventional military is utter dogshit and Russia can't even pacify portions of their next door neighbor, let alone project any kind of dominance miles from home.

socal2 says

UveBeenNudged1 says

Anyone who thinks they can intimidate a nation that has nukes, Oreshniks, a world leader in hypersonic missiles, and a massive industrial capacity, needs to do a reality check.

So there only threat is that they can nuke the world with their aging nuke arsenal?

The last 4 years have shown the world that Russia's conventional military is utter dogshit and Russia can't even pacify portions of their next door neighbor, let alone project any kind of dominance miles from home.

Exactly the same narrative that the MSM and NeoCon propagandists have been pushing since day one... Independent/alternative websites like this provide an opportunity to challenge the status quo, so why just parrot it?

"The ruble will turn into rubble" they said back in March 2022, after the first of many 'sanction packages'. But the facts remain that Russia is gaining ground - not loosing it. Has destroyed entire Ukraine armies, which have had to be rebuilt several times over, with over 50 nations providing military support for Ukraine... Putin has a good approval rating, unlike most Western leaders... Quality of life is improving in Russia, while infrastructure collapses in the West...

The bottom line is that supporting further military escalation means you're part of a death-cult who would sooner see the world burn than make concessions to Russia. Even without nukes, Oreshniks and hypersonics are terrifying weapons, which could even render nukes obsolete or impractical. Russia are also becoming masters of drone warfare.

zzyzzx says

UveBeenNudged1 says

Every 'wonder weapon' sent against Russia (from Leopard tanks to Storm Shadow missiles) was supposed to be a 'game changer'..

The quantities of these wonder weapons was woefully insufficient to be a game changer. Now if Ukraine got 2000 Tomahawks and 300 Abrams and a few hundred F-16's, that would be a game changer. And drones, while important, might not be that big of a deal if either country had a viable air force.

And who's going to pilot all those F16 etc...? They need massive maintenance. A lot of weapons shipped to Ukraine are falling into the hands of America's enemies through the black market; the whole thing sounds like a scam on the western taxpayer...
Giving weapons to Banderites is like giving hand grenades to monkeys. Blowback has already occurred.

The West won the Cold War against USSR/Warsaw Pact. The latest Ukie kerfluffle is nothing but an attempt to humiliate Russia and destroy it.

Libtards forget that Putin wanted to join NATO but was told to fuck off.

Gorbachev agreed to German unification as long as NATO wouldn't be expanded and was verbally promised "Not a single inch further East." Lying sons of bitches . . .

The Neocon Jew descendants of the refugees from the Russian Empire want nothing less than the dissolution of Russia along the lines of the Baruch plan they drew up for Germany after WWII (didn't happen because of Iron Curtain shit, but look it up).

socal2 says

UveBeenNudged1 says

Anyone who thinks they can intimidate a nation that has nukes, Oreshniks, a world leader in hypersonic missiles, and a massive industrial capacity, needs to do a reality check.

So there only threat is that they can nuke the world with their aging nuke arsenal?

The last 4 years have shown the world that Russia's conventional military is utter dogshit and Russia can't even pacify portions of their next door neighbor, let alone project any kind of dominance miles from home.

More Russia is Losing news...

Pokrovsk & Kupiansk encircled by Russian forces - massive strategic victory.

Burevestnik missile tested:
"known by NATO as “Skyfall.” The missile reportedly flew 14,000 km and stayed airborne for 15 hours, showcasing what Putin calls “invincible power.” Designed to evade U.S. missile defence systems, the weapon marks a new era in strategic warfare as Moscow warns of an “overwhelming” response to U.S.-supplied Tomahawks in Ukraine. Analysts say this nuclear-powered missile could shift the balance of global deterrence and reignite a dangerous arms race between Russia and the United States."

zzyzzx says

Now if Ukraine got 2000 Tomahawks

Tomahawks can only be launched by ships.

The Gryphon was its land based version. Taken out of service in 1991 per Treaty compliance.

UveBeenNudged1 says

More Russia is Losing news...

Pokrovsk & Kupiansk encircled by Russian forces - massive strategic victory.

Burevestnik missile tested:
"known by NATO as “Skyfall.” The missile reportedly flew 14,000 km and stayed airborne for 15 hours, showcasing what Putin calls “invincible power.” Designed to evade U.S. missile defence systems, the weapon marks a new era in strategic warfare as Moscow warns of an “overwhelming” response to U.S.-supplied Tomahawks in Ukraine. Analysts say this nuclear-powered missile could shift the balance of global deterrence and reignite a dangerous arms race between Russia and the United States."

MolotovCocktail says

UveBeenNudged1 says

More Russia is Losing news...

Pokrovsk & Kupiansk encircled by Russian forces - massive strategic victory.

Burevestnik missile tested:
"known by NATO as “Skyfall.” The missile reportedly flew 14,000 km and stayed airborne for 15 hours, showcasing what Putin calls “invincible power.” Designed to evade U.S. missile defence systems, the weapon marks a new era in strategic warfare as Moscow warns of an “overwhelming” response to U.S.-supplied Tomahawks in Ukraine. Analysts say this nuclear-powered missile could shift the balance of global deterrence and reignite a dangerous arms race between Russia and the United States."

MolotovCocktail says

UveBeenNudged1 says

More Russia is Losing news...

Pokrovsk & Kupiansk encircled by Russian forces - massive strategic victory.

Burevestnik missile tested:
"known by NATO as “Skyfall.” The missile reportedly flew 14,000 km and stayed airborne for 15 hours, showcasing what Putin calls “invincible power.” Designed to evade U.S. missile defence systems, the weapon marks a new era in strategic warfare as Moscow warns of an “overwhelming” response to U.S.-supplied Tomahawks in Ukraine. Analysts say this nuclear-powered missile could shift the balance of global deterrence and reignite a dangerous arms race between Russia and the United States."

BRUSSELS — One of Russia's largest industrial empires will quit its international operations after being targeted by hard-hitting U.S. sanctions, as President Donald Trump steps up efforts to force the Kremlin to end its war in Ukraine.

In a statement on Monday evening, Moscow-headquartered energy giant Lukoil confirmed it had begun looking for buyers for its foreign ventures.

The decision, it said, had been taken "owing to introduction of restrictive measures against the Company and its subsidiaries by some states," forcing it to announce "its intention to sell its international assets."

A former Lukoil executive, granted anonymity to speak freely, said the move could see the company’s revenues and profits plummet by “about 30 percent,” as it is forced it to sell three refineries and around half of its roughly 5,000 petrol stations worldwide.

“Lukoil is finished,” they said.

The move comes days after the U.S. blacklisted Lukoil, as well as oil and gas firm Rosneft, in a surprise sanctions package that it said was "a result of Russia’s lack of serious commitment to a peace process to end the war in Ukraine.

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UveBeenNudged1 says

Pokrovsk & Kupiansk encircled by Russian forces - massive strategic victory.

Eh? Encircling couple of towns with pre-war population of less than 30K each after 2+ years of offensive is a "strategic victory" now?

PS. Especially taking into account it didn't happen. But even if it did. How any of this is "strategic"? Compare it to Donnie T killing 50% of Paper Tiger's oil exports. Now this IS strategic.

MolotovCocktail says

zzyzzx says

Now if Ukraine got 2000 Tomahawks

Tomahawks can only be launched by ships.

The Gryphon was its land based version. Taken out of service in 1991 per Treaty compliance.

That treaty is dead.

Meanwhile....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVSR98LK4Fg

“You’re four years fighting a war that should have taken a week. Are you a paper tiger?” -- Donald J. Trump, 45/47th POTUS.

Eric Holder says

BRUSSELS — One of Russia's largest industrial empires will quit its international operations after being targeted by hard-

No source again.

Eric Holder says

That treaty is dead.

Meanwhile....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVSR98LK4Fg

Treaty is dead but the tech to launch them from land is barely in the prototype phase.

Eric Holder says

“You’re four years fighting a war that should have taken a week. Are you a paper tiger?” -- Donald J. Trump, 45/47th POTUS.

Says the guy who thought he could end the conflict within the first 24 hours of his presidency....

UveBeenNudged1 says

Says the guy who thought he could end the conflict within the first 24 hours of his presidency....

Imagine thinking that Russia's military isn't the world's laughing stock after 4 years of this shit show.

Russia still has less Ukrainian territory under their control than they did in the first months of the invasion and have been mired in a grinding trench conflict ever since.

But... but.... but..... they have noooooks!

Maybe send in some more Norks as cannon fodder and perhaps Iran can supply a few more drones?

socal2 says

UveBeenNudged1 says

Says the guy who thought he could end the conflict within the first 24 hours of his presidency....

Imagine thinking that Russia's military isn't the world's laughing stock after 4 years of this shit show.

Russia still has less Ukrainian territory under their control than they did in the first months of the invasion and have been mired in a grinding trench conflict ever since.

But... but.... but..... they have noooooks!

Maybe send in some more Norks as cannon fodder and perhaps Iran can supply a few more drones?

The Collective West only makes up about 20% of the world's population, and you'll find that the rest of the world is actually laughing at us (while being mindful that our leaders form part of a totally unhinged criminal cartel)...

UveBeenNudged1 says

The Collective West only makes up about 20% of the world's population, and you'll find that the rest of the world is actually laughing at us (while being mindful that our leaders form part of a totally unhinged criminal cartel)...

Ha Ha! BRICS??

You think the Commies and Islamists that make up BRICS are laughing at Trump and the US?

No amount of your Commie agitprop memes changes the fact that Russia totally fucked up by invading Ukraine and has shown the whole world how incredibly weak and pathetic their military has become.

Oops, that was pre-"Charlie loved me the most but Erika stole him from me, with the help of Bee Cultists!" before heel-turn Candace.

Here's a better WW3 meme:

Dammit, let me get out of the Crazy Candace folder.

socal2 says

UveBeenNudged1 says

The Collective West only makes up about 20% of the world's population, and you'll find that the rest of the world is actually laughing at us (while being mindful that our leaders form part of a totally unhinged criminal cartel)...

Ha Ha! BRICS??

You think the Commies and Islamists that make up BRICS are laughing at Trump and the US?

No amount of your Commie agitprop memes changes the fact that Russia totally fucked up by invading Ukraine and has shown the whole world how incredibly weak and pathetic their military has become.

Calm down, it sounds like you've swallowed the entire insane Neocon and Atlanticist playbook...
Are you saying that Russia should have just sat back and do nothing...? Imagine if China placed its missiles in Canada, and Russia placed theirs in Mexico....
But I recon by the beginning of next year, Russian resilience and Ukraine defeat will be confirmed (if the world is still intact...). Watch this space...

I am waiting for some Zoomer to say:

"You people over 45 have NO IDEA what it's like to live in fear of nuclear war!"

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Gullible people get trapped in the dumb Left vs Right paradigm (while the real rulers laugh all the way to the bank...), a few of us do try to transcend though...

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

I am waiting for some Zoomer to say:

"You people over 45 have NO IDEA what it's like to live in fear of nuclear war!"

Eric Holder says

UveBeenNudged1 says

Pokrovsk & Kupiansk encircled by Russian forces - massive strategic victory.

Eh? Encircling couple of towns with pre-war population of less than 30K each after 2+ years of offensive is a "strategic victory" now?

PS. Especially taking into account it didn't happen. But even if it did. How any of this is "strategic"? Compare it to Donnie T killing 50% of Paper Tiger's oil exports. Now this IS strategic.

Only entrapping 10k Ukraine troops (potentially up to 50k along all fronts!) and securing a key city, drawing the battle for the entire Donetsk region to a conclusion...
The only thing you have proved is that relentless Neocon/Alanticist propaganda, (across all media platforms), CAN alter the perceptions of the feeble-minded...

https://youtu.be/m9gpK3ge20I?si=FJ0Zr5PKRBkc30b1

I'm one of those who couldn't possibly see a way much smaller Ukraine could stop a Russian invasion given the size differential, even if qualitatively better.

I can't believe how badly the Russians are doing, regardless of the latest ATGMs and other equipment given to Ukraine.

Even if the Russians were hopping on one leg and used Korean War era equipment, they ought to have at least conquered to the Dneipr and held it.

And now I hear there really is War Exhaustion in Russia. Taxes up, prices up, people tired of drafts, much bigger casualties than reported.

On both sides, but now being felt in Russia which is larger and had more buffer against shocks.

Papagallo!
DemoralizerOfPanicans says

I'm one of those who couldn't possibly see a way much smaller Ukraine could stop a Russian invasion given the size differential, even if qualitatively better.

I can't believe how badly the Russians are doing, regardless of the latest ATGMs and other equipment given to Ukraine.

Even if the Russians were hopping on one leg and used Korean War era equipment, they ought to have at least conquered to the Dneipr and held it.

And now I hear there really is War Exhaustion in Russia. Taxes up, prices up, people tired of drafts, much bigger casualties than reported.

On both sides, but now being felt in Russia which is larger and had more buffer against shocks.

Putin has invited western journalists the come and see the encirclements with their own eyes, but maintaining a fake narrative is more important, regardless of Ukrainian lives lost....

Even the pro-Ukraine MSM is starting to inform the public of the dire situation Ukraine is in. Maybe some of the more gung ho propagandists on this blog can go and lend them a hand...

A desperate attempt to land Ukrainian special forces, using an American Black Hawk helicopter near encircled Pokrovsk, ended in complete catastrophe. The landing force was detected, tracked, and completely destroyed by UAVs operated by Russia's "Center" group.
https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1984429784378536087

Donnie is continuing the total fucking:

WASHINGTON, Nov 17 (Reuters) - The U.S. Treasury said on Monday that U.S. sanctions against Russian oil majors Rosneft (ROSN.MM) and Lukoil (LKOH.MM) are already reducing Russian oil revenues and are likely to reduce the quantity of Russian oil sold in the long term.
The Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control said in a statement that its analysis of the initial market impact of the sanctions announced on October 22 showed they "are having their intended effect of dampening Russian revenues by lowering the price of Russian oil and therefore the country's ability to fund its war effort against Ukraine."

The Treasury action was among the strongest U.S. sanctions since Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022 and the first direct sanctions imposed by President Donald Trump against Russia since taking office in January.

The sanctions set a November 21 deadline for companies to wind down dealings with Rosneft and Lukoil. Violators could be cut off from the dollar-based financial system.

The OFAC analysis said that several key grades of Russian crude were selling at multi-year-low prices and noted that nearly a dozen major Indian and Chinese purchasers of Russian crude have announced intentions to pause their purchases of Russian oil for December deliveries.

LSEG Workspace data on Monday showed benchmark Urals crude loaded at Russia's Black Sea oil hub of Novorossiysk traded at $45.35 per barrel on November 12, the lowest level since March 2023. At that time, Russia was just beginning to assemble a "shadow fleet" of tankers to avoid a G7-led price cap of $60 a barrel imposed in December 2023.

Loadings resumed at the Black Sea port after being suspended by a Ukrainian drone and missile attack.
Reuters reported earlier this month that Russian oil discounts to Brent had widened as major Indian and Chinese refiners cut purchases in response to the U.S. sanctions.

-- Reuters

Neocons and Libs in denial to the very end....

UveBeenNudged1 says

Neocons and Libs in denial to the very end....

NEW DELHI, Nov 20 (Reuters) - India's Reliance Industries (RELI.NS), opens new tab has stopped importing Papertigerian crude oil into its refining complex at Jamnagar in western Gujarat state, effective November 20, its spokesperson said on Thursday.
The Indian conglomerate, which has a long-term deal to buy nearly 500,000 barrels a day of crude from Papertigerian major Rosneft (ROSN.MM), opens new tab, had said it would abide by sanctions against illegitimate Moscow regime while maintaining ties with current oil suppliers.

HELSINKI, Nov 19 (Reuters) - Finnish petrol station operator Teboil, owned by Russian oil major Lukoil (LKOH.MM)
, opens new tab, said on Wednesday it is preparing to shut down all its stations in the Nordic country as fuel runs out amid U.S. sanctions against its parent company.

Teboil is the first Lukoil-owned international business to say it will close down as a result of the sanctions.

Elsewhere, Lukoil has declared force majeure at its prized West Qurna 2 oilfield after Iraq halted all cash and crude payments, while a contractor working for Lukoil cancelled plans to drill for petroleum off Romania, and Bulgaria prepared to take over a Lukoil refinery.