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Totally unrelated side note most of you can ignore:

@Patrick - block quotes are looking real snazzy now. Real snazzy.

AmericanKulak says

By 2040, China is going to have a severe shortage of 18-40 year old men

They already do. The average age of a Chinese worker now is older than the average American. Has been since 2019 or so. And every year it rises more than 'just one year difference in age', too.

And because of One Child, for every one working age Chinese now there are two parents and four grandparents they have to support at some level, too. Directly support, not just via transfer payment programs like social security.

NOW, not in the future.

Second runner up in the Demographically Fucked Department was Russua before the war. Now it is Ukraine, followed by Russia.

Then there are the Demographically Fucked countries that managed to get rich before they got old. Japan tops the list but South Korea will soon eclipse them. Canada and Europe are next. The latter two went with mass immigration to try to solve that problem...with the Canadian's barely making it semi-successful enough to buy them another decade or two while the Europeans fucked it up completely.

Rich But Old countries have more options. Not all will be able to handle it like Japan has managed (so far). South Korea is going to be very demonstrative to watch.

We don't have it nearly so bad compared to everyone else. Sweden, France and New Zealand have so far been popping out enough native born babies. Mexico and India have robust but not too many birthrates, too.

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

Demographically Fucked

The solution to "Demographically Fucked" is to work toward a sustainable economy with a stable population. A population cannot continually grow or else you are on the way to a billion people in the US, then onward to two billion to support the first billion. That cannot happen and still sustain a first world living standard.

https://www.newsweek.com/us-warned-caribbean-becoming-chinese-lake-2041296

HeadSet says

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says
Demographically Fucked

The solution to "Demographically Fucked" is to work toward a sustainable economy with a stable population. A population cannot continually grow or else you are on the way to a billion people in the US, then onward to two billion to support the first billion. That cannot happen and still sustain a first world living standard.

Yeah, but China F'd up bigly. They also lie about their stats. We do too, but it's tracked better. The US is just having kids later so there will be a gap. I've got a lot of 32-40 year old friends with 2-5 year old kids and mostly have 2-3 of them.

I think Chinese Women want kids and if they're of some wealth just leave and find men elsewhere if they can speak another language even if broken english (language). Met one in Grand Tetons, Chinese chick didn't know my wife was with me. If unmarried I'd have been tempted. She had a smart phone and couldn't find the main entrance so she was clearly hitting on me. She got there and wouldn't be that stupid given the loop of the Tetons.

I find it weird that there are so many Asians at national parks. I'm talking out my ass, but most seem Chinese and female is all to bring it back to the conversation. I think China has a traveling problem with women looking to hook up in the US and other countries.

You don't need to grow, but if you exist, you at least need to replace yourself and your spouse or chick you fuck. 2 kids. It should be a 1:1 ratio. One adult, one kid. Some will make up with more kids, so it's not awful to not have kids, but you generally should replace yourself with another human. The US doesn't need 1B people. Just keep it level with people the right age.

WookieMan says

You don't need to grow, but if you exist, you at least need to replace yourself and your spouse or chick you fuck. 2 kids.

The US was very prosperous when it had a population of 200 million and would still be so if we declined back to that level. Less resource depletion and used houses would be affordable in manner that used cars typically are.

HeadSet says

The solution to "Demographically Fucked" is to work toward a sustainable economy with a stable population. A population cannot continually grow or else you are on the way to a billion people in the US, then onward to two billion to support the first billion. That cannot happen and still sustain a first world living standard.

Collapsing populations are not stable either. And if you think our credit based system is hooked on expanding growth...it definitely cam not handle negative growth.

Semi-Related

"Russia should 'introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics'."
- Aleksander Dugin, 1997

(Not that I think Russia is anything like the prime mover in the calculated destablization/demoralization of the USA)

Entitled-Spoiled Single "Leftover" Women Syndrome hits China

Compilation of Chinese women past the "Christmas Cake" date (25) screaming about new CCP Divorce/Inheritance Laws.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCp4s8zf2xw

To redeem the dropping birthrate, and respond to complaints of older Chinese that their sons were being Divraped, CCP just passed a law saying that men who inherit a house, or whose parents pay a sum towards a property before the wedding or during marriage, get to keep it in divorce. "Dragon lady" Divorce Plotters scream with rage on Chinese Social Media.

Other takeaways:
Chinese families are tuning down traditional, expensive weddings in favor of simple McD's and "Milk Tea" parties
Chinese women vow not to compromise in marriage, including rather plain ones.

The US solution is yet again 1.) learn a trade. 2.) move out of the big cities.

They will be lucky to be as prosperous as Cuba by 2049 if they stay the course of Communism.
Communism is a blueprint to failure and misery. Too many Fat cats depending on lazy bastards living on the dole. Nothing happens, food security plummets, and the quality of life craters. Hopeless despair is all that is afforded.

They could be an economic powerhouse, but they have to get rid of the CCP hang the mother fuckers until they shit their pants green.
Figure out an economic policy that creates a path to put every citizen that wants a Tofu Dreg condo into one as cheap as possible, and create commerce where those apartment blocs are located, and quit trying to centralize everything to one major city. Value their famers and make it easy for them to return to the fields and profitable. Then bring back manufacturing by protecting the IP of foreign investors, or foster homegrown manufacturer investors.
It would be so easy for them to do, but it will never happen as long as the Shitface Commies are in charge, and that fat fuck Whinny the poo is dictating China.

AmericanKulak says

Compilation of Chinese women past the "Christmas Cake" date (25)

Thought that was a Japanese thing. They don't celebrate Xmas in China.

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

HeadSet says
The solution to "Demographically Fucked" is to work toward a sustainable economy with a stable population. A population cannot continually grow or else you are on the way to a billion people in the US, then onward to two billion to support the first billion. That cannot happen and still sustain a first world living standard.

Collapsing populations are not stable either. And if you think our credit based system is hooked on expanding growth...it definitely cam not handle negative growth.

I agree there has to be a compromise somewhere between over population and collapsing population, as far as this goal of stable population.

Innovation and productivity gains can achieve this, as well as society adjusting to and accommodating an aging population.

I agree as the way the economy is configured you have to have ~1% annual increases in population growth.

Japan is a good model or example to study in regards to this subject matter.

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Tenpoundbass says

Figure out an economic policy that creates a path to put every citizen that wants a Tofu Dreg condo into one as cheap as possible, and create commerce where those apartment blocs are located, and quit trying to centralize everything to one major city.

As far as the Chicom elites go...over 90% of the population in China owns their own home. Over 50% own multiple properties.

In the US, its 66% homeownership rate with 12.5% owning multiple properties.

Besides the crappy environmental issues, the Chinese leadership seems less controlling overall than the US's.

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

Thought that was a Japanese thing. They don't celebrate Xmas in China.

They know what it is, but yeah it's Japan, not China.

China just calls them "Leftovers" and the cutoff is 27: shèngnǚ

Misc says

Over 50% own multiple properties.

...which are worthless.

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AmericanKulak says

Why are 90% of China's leftover women panicking?

They all look the same if they're of middle or upper class status however that works in China. They have shit personalities likely as females. We have choices in America for women as far as looks. Chinese all look the same. Get a better personality and you'd have a man.

I look at it like a police lineup to identify someone. The Asian/Chinese women all look the same. If this was a dating thing you'd have to talk to them. My bitch radar is good in America, but I'd be screwed in China even if I could speak the language.

Think Bobby Lee the comedian. No one knows if he's Chines, Korean, Vietnamese, etc. I haven't recently but I could walk around Chicago and know where different latinos are from. Indians are obvious. Then Asians. They Asian, but they all look the same.

Given the low amount of tourism to China from different cultures, I'd bet some good money it's a society that has a lot of incest going on.

Wait, how do they have "leftover weemenz" after 40 years of one child policy and parents preferring to keep boys and aborting girls? They should have shortage of females, unless Chinese men are heavily into gay shit now.

RWSGFY says

Wait, how do they have "leftover weemenz" after 40 years of one child policy and parents preferring to keep boys and aborting girls? They should have shortage of females, unless Chinese men are heavily into gay shit now.

After a certain age, a woman's net present value goes down the shitter, that's why.

MolotovCocktail says

RWSGFY says

Wait, how do they have "leftover weemenz" after 40 years of one child policy and parents preferring to keep boys and aborting girls? They should have shortage of females, unless Chinese men are heavily into gay shit now.

After a certain age, a woman's net present value goes down the shitter, that's why.

So Chinese guys diddle each other instead?

RWSGFY says

So Chinese guys diddle each other instead?

Again: Pay attention to context.

A few of them really nuked it with the "glamor" filter - wtf is with those almost herbivore spaced eyes?

MolotovCocktail says

RWSGFY says

So Chinese guys diddle each other instead?

Again: Pay attention to context.

A pussy is a pussy is a pussy. If there is a shortage of pussy there should not be much of leftover pussy.

This is Chicom progaganda designed to make Joe Six-pack desire "those poor Chinese wimmen!" After many Joe's marry them, they'll be infiltrated into the USA as deepstate agents ready to do what the Russians failed at: destabilize the US of A for proper takeover!

I should know: my Lazy BIL married one: she's compliant, hard-working, and puts up with his autistic-spectrum personality. He takes advantage of her, while she collects intelligence and transmits state secrets back to the CCP, stenographically encoded into snail-mail stamp microdots.

Eric Holder says

A pussy is a pussy is a pussy. If there is a shortage of pussy there should not be much of leftover pussy.

The subject isn't pussy. It's marriageable women.

Duh.

MolotovCocktail says

Eric Holder says

A pussy is a pussy is a pussy. If there is a shortage of pussy there should not be much of leftover pussy.

The subject isn't pussy. It's marriageable women.

Duh.

What else is needed from a woman? A pussy and an ability to make a sammich.

You guys don't recognize Communist propaganda when you see it?

That age demographic rode Chinese Middle Class greatness dragon. They had a very charmed life steeped rich in all of the luxuries that Capitalism can afford. China's economic greatness and the CCP's laxed stance against capitalist going nowhere but up on the wage ladder is behind them. China is doing their division campaign against that generation. They will be pariah and blamed for every economic failure in the coming decades.

But another interesting thing with that generation, they didn't have time for personal relationships, not the men or women. They were focused on making money and climbing the social and corporate ladder. Of course the men in their late 30's can have any younger female they want, while the 30's females may find it harder. But I think the real issue is they have been conditioned to be selfish, self reliant and swore off the family life in their pursuits, that they now don't know how to turn it on. Because they never practiced the social nuances of flirting, dating, or mating. This phenomena is not just exclusive to Chinese women, I think Girl Bosses everywhere around the world has this issue.

Lastly the CCP is trying to break the habit, get the younger generation to not go down the same shameful selfish self serving path as those money chasing generations in the past. This propaganda serves as a warning to them, less they be "Throw away", "Left over women" themselves.

Sprenza(sp) did a video about a year ago on the "Left over women", he was talking like it's a real thing, rather than seeing it for what it was.

The CCP waged Fifth Generation war by participating in the BIS IPO of our election frauds, fentanyl, supporting cartels etc. What a gang bang on the election fraud. Cuba, Venezuela, CCP, Serbia, Spain, Germany, CIA, Vatican satellites, Italy, Dominion, it was a vast, world wide election fraud apparatus.

The Chinese printed all the fake ballots that were shipped through the Freemason USPS to go to the polling stations after midnight to be counted for the extraordinary election fraud. They also sponsored the hackers and provided technology assets in Cuba, Venezuela and Serbia who acted in conjunction with the other election fraud shareholders. I guess they thought the distributed assaults could not be traced and identified. Apparently Trump stopped the extraordinary fraud this time 2024 with unheralded military assets on the ground.

If Trump topples their economy, can't say the CCP don't deserve it.

The tariffs on Chinese imports are effectively an act of war. Not literal war, but economic war. Of course they deserve to have the war brought to them for their relentless trampling of human rights for decades on end. The question is, how long before this economic war turns into a kinetic war?

May Day Holiday disaster. Consumer spending down 13% YoY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4mjrhnIZGc

Like in the USSR, Chinese figured it out quickly: No stylish influencers bragging about cutting big lines, saying the hotel was totally booked, no companies on the news bragging about how much money and new records like they usually do.

Rise of the "Rat People"... Chinese youth who sleep all day and spend the absolute minimum

PeopleUnited says

The tariffs on Chinese imports are effectively an act of war. Not literal war, but economic war. Of course they deserve to have the war brought to them for their relentless trampling of human rights for decades on end. The question is, how long before this economic war turns into a kinetic war?

The Chinese have been conducting asymmetric warfare against the US for over 40 years, to the point where they consider it their right to ass fuck us six ways from Sunday. Boo fucking hoo.

In one of the videos, they call ultranats "Pink Flags" and say that Xi should bend the knee in secret but say he won't in public. Also that they won't put up with "Three Years of Natural Disaster" a reference to the Great Leap Forward to starve themselves on behalf of the CCP (that they know is corrupt AF).

The ironic thing is that ENDING (one-sided) FREE TRADE may bring the vaunted Democratic Reforms Free Traders have been claiming were right around the corner for 20 years before they realized how retarded they looked saying it.

Another thought, there was a recent graduate in the housing/real estate industry talking about how he had to sign I guess what is an NDA saying that the market is great if anybody asks, including his friends in school for real estate. He says nobody in his office has sold one property in the last 2 months.

What happens when everybody stuffs their money in apartments hoping to sell them in hard times? And everybody wants to sell them at the same time?

stereotomy says

The Chinese have been conducting asymmetric warfare against the US for over 40 years, to the point where they consider it their right to ass fuck us six ways from Sunday.

Correction: American globalists have collaborated with the Chinese Communists to screw the Americans. Sure the Chinese communists suck, but the American collaborators suck even more for selling us out.

The question remains however, when will China begin the kinetic war, and who will they attack first?

AmericanKulak says

He says nobody in his office has sold one property in the last 2 months.

Two houses have sold in my small neighborhood in the past two months.

And the book sale at our local school just broke a record for sales.

They keep building more apartments nearly everywhere you look!

By these accounts the economy is just fine. Which is not to say that things can’t happen to change that quickly. War, rapture, or other black swans could be just around the corner. Mass deportation would surely reduce housing demand, And likely also drive up wages some as demand for workers increases. And supposedly we are going to bring some manufacturing home which should also drive up wages and support house prices.

PeopleUnited says

Two houses have sold in my small neighborhood in the past two months.

This was in China.

PeopleUnited says

The question is, how long before this economic war turns into a kinetic war?

The Chinese cannot get a warship across the Pacific. They wouldn't even get into international waters if it was deemed aggressive. https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47589 Shipping vessels are way different. Made to move tonnage and hold a ton a fuel. Chinese made ships to be fast for the South China sea.

This will be an economic war only. I'm not sure I'd call it a war either. They cannot win any form of war. You now got Pakistan and India going off, so any good relations with them are on the back burner right now. Russia is busy. They're surrounded by US bases and that doesn't include subs and aircraft carriers that could be moved.

Without using nukes the Chinese would lose most of their naval fleet. They'd lose airstrips. Biden screwed up with Afghanistan. I think Trump did too. Should have kept Bagrham (sp?) and some long range bombers there. You could attack from 4 different directions and there is no Chinese military anymore in a week. Maybe 48 hours. I'm sure we know where any nuke silos are. No economy and no military would bring China to the ultimate crash.

AmericanKulak says

PeopleUnited says

Two houses have sold in my small neighborhood in the past two months.

This was in China.

That sounds about right. This is going to cause a lot of trouble for China.