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2025 Oct 6, 5:14pm   10,350 views  1,498 comments

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( Previous Globull Warming threads were merged into this one on 7 Oct 2025. See https://patrick.net/post/1210872/2012-04-02-patrick-net-suggestions?start=624#comment-2213087 )

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578   The_Deplorable   2023 Jul 13, 11:31am  

RC2006 says
"Fight climate change by bonding your hands to a road with epoxy."

How sad... These people are clueless... Global Warming is a Fraud!


579   stereotomy   2023 Jul 13, 1:26pm  

The_Deplorable says


• If CO2 is causing Global Warming, then where is the Global Warming on Mars with a CO2 concentration exceeding 950,000 ppm? Why is the average temperature of Mars at (minus) -81 °F given that the CO2 in the Martian atmosphere is 950,000 ppm? No answer.


Not true. The atmospheric pressure at ground level on Mars is only 0.095 psi vs. 14.7 psi for sea level pressure on Earth. For comparison, atmospheric pressure at the top of Mount Everest is 4.89 psi - this is enough to make the peak of Everest more than 100 degrees colder than temperatures at sea level for the equivalent latitude. Without almost 100% CO2, Mars would be much, much colder. For example, the temperature on the surface on the moon in the shade is -297 degrees Fahrenheit.

The_Deplorable says


• If CO2 is causing Global Warming, then where is the Global Warming on Venus with a CO2 concentration exceeding 970,000 ppm? No answer. Venus has the same temperature as Gaia at the one atmosphere level (sea level) with a very minor adjustment for being closer to the Sun.


This neglects to mention that the altitude at which this occurs is 30 miles. Everest is 5.5 miles above sea level and is damn cold - at 160,000 feet there is virtually no atmosphere and temperatures are close to -150 F. This statement also misleadingly attempts to conflate one atmosphere of pressure with 0 altitude.

The_Deplorable says


• How is it humanly possible for alarmists, to find Global Warming on Earth at 400 ppm CO2 but they cannot find Global Warming on Mars and Venus at CO2 levels exceeding 950,000 ppm? No answer.


This is just a recapitulation of the first two items, which are obviously and demonstrably misleading. In the first point, pressure is neglected, so the argument is bogus. You'll need something better than grade school science to explain this; namely the gas law PV=nRT which used to be taught in high school. In the second point, this argument is a red herring. Can we survive unaided 30 miles altitude on Earth? No. Can we possibly do this on Venus? Perhaps, if we could breathe the air, which we probably couldn't.

I have no problem with the remaining 4 points and in fact agree with all of them. It's a shame that the first three points leading the argument are horse shit.
580   The_Deplorable   2023 Jul 13, 10:16pm  

• If CO2 is causing Global Warming, then where is the Global Warming on Mars with a CO2 concentration exceeding 950,000 ppm? Why is the average temperature of Mars at (minus) -81 °F given that the CO2 in the Martian atmosphere is 950,000 ppm? No answer.

stereotomy says

"Not true. The atmospheric pressure at ground level on Mars is only 0.095 psi vs. 14.7 psi for sea level pressure on Earth... Without almost 100% CO2, Mars would be much, much colder. For example, the temperature on the surface on the moon in the shade is -297 degrees Fahrenheit."

No because Mars does not emit radiation at the frequency which CO2 absorbs, namely 15 microns and that is why there is no Global Warming on Mars.
Bottom line, you do not have a process for creating Global Warming through CO2 on Mars.

• Given that CO2 is a Greenhouse Gas, then "Where is the Global Warming on Venus with a CO2 concentration exceeding 970,000 ppm? Venus has the same temperature as Gaia at the one atmosphere level (sea level) with a very minor adjustment for being closer to the Sun."

"This neglects to mention that the altitude at which this occurs is 30 miles."

Yes, because we are comparing apples with apples. Otherwise you are ignoring the Ideal Gas Law. We compare the temperature of Venus at the one atmosphere level - sea level for Earth - and Venus has the same temperature as Earth. Changing the atmospheric pressure will change the temperature per the ideal gas law: PV/T = Constant.



• Finally, recall that during the Paleozoic, Gaia had an ice age that lasted for 40 Million years at a CO2 level of 4,200 ppm. So... where was the Global Warming back then?
Again, CO2 is not warming anything because Gaia is not emitting radiation at the frequency which CO2 absorbs, namely 15 microns and that is why CO2 is not warming anything. As a result, Given that Gaia is roughly at 59°F then our planet is radiating unimpeded into space at 10 microns.


581   richwicks   2023 Jul 14, 6:00am  

The_Deplorable says

Finally, recall that during the Paleozoic, Gaia had an ice age that lasted for 40 Million years


WTF is "Gaia"? You mean EARTH?

Gaia is supposedly some reference to "mother Earth" as some sort of god, but what religion is never mentioned.

It's also a character in that dumb cartoon Captain Planet I think.
582   The_Deplorable   2023 Jul 14, 11:52am  

"Finally, recall that during the Paleozoic, Gaia had an ice age that lasted for 40 Million years."

richwicks says

"WTF is "Gaia"? You mean EARTH?"

Seriously, you don't know Gaia?

A lot of sciences, names and places are named after Gaia. For example, Geology, Geography, Geometry, Geophysics, Geothermal, Geocentric, Geocentrism, Geosphere, Geoscience, Geodesic, Geostationary, Geopolitics, Geostrategy, Geohazard, Geomagnetic, Geofencing, Georgia, George, Geoid, etc are named after Gaia. You never heard of these sciences and never used any of these words?

"Gaia is supposedly some reference to "mother Earth" as some sort of god, but what religion is never mentioned."


Nonsense. Gaia is the original name for Earth that existed long before the word Earth for thousands of years. Compared to Gaia which goes back at least 4,000 years, Earth is a very recent name!
583   richwicks   2023 Jul 14, 1:31pm  

The_Deplorable says

Nonsense. Gaia is the original name for Earth that existed long before the word Earth for thousands of years.


This is stupid.

There's hundreds of languages. I'm tired of this new-age bullshit, and people repeating it without doing an ounce of thinking. It's like all the crystal crap of the 1970s.
584   The_Deplorable   2023 Jul 14, 4:00pm  

Nonsense. Gaia is the original name for Earth that existed long before the word Earth for thousands of years. Compared to Gaia which goes back at least 4,000 years, Earth is a very recent name!

richwicks says
"This is stupid. There's hundreds of languages."

More nonsense! You are feigning ignorance!

Given that you are an English speaker, how come you use words like Geology, Geography, Geometry, Geophysics, Geothermal, Geocentric, Geocentrism, Geosphere, Geoscience, Geodesic, Geostationary, Geopolitics, Geostrategy, Geohazard, Geomagnetic, Geofencing, Georgia, George, Geoid, etc and you don't know Gaia? Who are you kidding?

Did you ever look into the etymology of these words and the syntax of the English language? Meaning you have no problem with all these Greek words in the English language and all of a sudden but you have a problem with Gaia?

Stop feigning ignorance! Gaia is the original name of this planet... Planet? Another Greek word. The English language is loaded with Greek words and you don't know Gaia?
585   Onvacation   2023 Jul 17, 9:49pm  

back to the topic
586   Patrick   2023 Jul 18, 6:09am  

https://ippr-journal.com/2021/05/01/green-colonialism-or-the-fight-against-climate-change-as-an-excuse-for-imperialism/


Green colonialism… or the fight against climate change as an excuse for imperialism

MAY 1, 2021

It can seem difficult to believe that currently, with the existence of international conventions on human rights widely ratified, imperialist behaviours are still present, especially when engaged in by developed countries. Nevertheless, several examples are to be deplored.
587   Patrick   2023 Jul 18, 10:44am  

https://slaynews.com/news/nobel-prize-winning-scientist-climate-crisis-narrative-hoax/


A renowned Nobel Prize-winning scientist has spoken out to warn the public that the “climate crisis” narrative being pushed by the global elite and their allies in the corporate media is a hoax.

Dr. John Clauser, the co-winner of the 2022 Nobel Physics prize and one the world’s leading authorities on quantum mechanics, blasted “climate emergency” claims as a “dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of billions of people.”

Clauser, who was also awarded the 2010 Wolf Prize in Physics, the second most prestigious physics award after the Nobel, warns that misguided climate science is a hoax that is being driven by “massive shock-journalistic pseudoscience.”
588   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Jul 19, 7:52am  

I definitely do not believe it, since it started as Global Cooling in the late 70's, and since then has switched several times in an attempt to scare people. Anything based on fear is for the purpose of control, nothing more. We were supposed to be under water 20 years ago according to these people, real fucking believable.

Also, they've been caught manipulating data more than once. If it's true, no need to lie to get your point across.
589   Tenpoundbass   2023 Jul 19, 8:33am  

Global Warming is an exercise in controlling people and debate. There is nothing scientific about it. It's a debate that allows the lowest of IQ dominate because you're not allowed to challenge it with facts. The stronger you believe in Global Warming, the lower your IQ, that I'm convinced about.
It's the same morons, that wore a mask, but now wont be bothered with them, if everyone else isn't forced to wear. Though on a dime and moments notice, they could make wearing a mask the biggest issue concerning humanity, in an instance. All they need is the marching orders from the Mother Commie Ship.

Don't be manipulated by low IQ morons and fools.
590   Blue   2023 Jul 19, 8:54am  

Global warming front-end actresses ;)

591   MolotovCocktail   2023 Jul 19, 10:14am  

Who da bitch on the right?
592   Shaman   2023 Jul 19, 4:13pm  

Trollhole says

Who da bitch on the right?


It’s Malala Yousafzai
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai
593   Shaman   2023 Jul 19, 4:19pm  

This should be food for thought if you’re concerned about the climate.
Turns out that we have a 400 year cycle that just came due. It’s the Grand Solar Minimum and it refers to the solar magnetic field. A weakened mag field on the sun means more cosmic rays escape to bombard the Earth. One thing we know about these rays is that they cause cloud formation. Coincidentally, the west coast and especially California had more cloudy days this year than any other location in the continental USA. Temps were cool, much more than average up until a few weeks ago. It’s fairly warm in Long Beach today, but hey it’s July! It’s supposed to be hot in July. And honestly it just feels nice right now. Ocean water temps continue to be low for the season.

This phenomenon is supposed to last for 32 years.
So maybe invest less in solar panels and more in warm clothing.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/04/the_coming_modern_grand_solar_minimum.html
594   richwicks   2023 Jul 19, 4:53pm  

Shaman says


It’s Malala Yousafzai
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai


I think people like this are sincere, and don't realize they are being used. She was used, in part, to justify the war in Afghanistan. Remember that Afghanistan was justified for protecting women's rights?

What do you do when you believe you're doing a good thing, and your "good thing" is being used to justify a very evil thing? What do you do?

People get co-opted. If she was more politically aware, she would have recognized this, and denounced how we was being used, if she even realized she was being used.
595   Blue   2023 Jul 19, 5:36pm  

richwicks says


I think people like this are sincere, and don't realize they are being used. She was used, in part, to justify the war in Afghanistan. Remember that Afghanistan was justified for protecting women's rights?

She is openly Kafirophobe. Either she or her handlers driving her Jihad promotion with her "nobel prize" given for being victim of Kafirophobes as an accomplishment!
597   MolotovCocktail   2023 Jul 19, 11:04pm  

richwicks says

Remember that Afghanistan was justified for protecting women's rights?


Yet...nobody cares about women's rights in Saudi Arabia. Just like nobody cared that the 9/11 highjackers were all Saudi, not Iraqi or Afghani.
598   RWSGFY   2023 Jul 19, 11:15pm  

Trollhole says


richwicks says


Remember that Afghanistan was justified for protecting women's rights?


Yet...nobody cares about women's rights in Saudi Arabia. Just like nobody cared that the 9/11 highjackers were all Saudi, not Iraqi or Afghani.



Don't be silly and don't listen to the typical distortion from our oft-confused friend with "the best edumacation in the world": "weeminz rights" was a ride-along and never a "justification" for anything. The justification has always been the denial of shelter to AQ. Taliban refused to guarantee the above and absense of such guarantees served as the justification. Weeminz, gheys, etc was simply "while in there" kinda thing.
599   MolotovCocktail   2023 Jul 19, 11:30pm  

Shaman says


Trollhole says

Who da bitch on the right?


It’s Malala Yousafzai
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai



AGAIN! I ask: Who da bitch on the right?


601   Patrick   2023 Jul 20, 9:36am  

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/nobel-prize-winning-scientist-climate-crisis-is-a-hoax-to-depopulate-the-planet/


Dr. John Clauser, the co-winner of the 2022 Nobel Physics prize and one the world’s leading authorities on quantum mechanics, slammed the green agenda push by WEF-controlled countries as a “dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of billions of people.”

According to Dr. Clauser, the man-made climate change hoax is being perpetrated by government’s and media organizations who are bought and paid for by the globalist elite.

The goal of globalists is to depopulate the planet and to drastically decrease the quality of life for those who remain.

“In my opinion, there is no real climate crisis,” Clauser said.

“There is, however, a very real problem with providing a decent standard of living to the world’s largest population and an associated energy crisis.”

“The latter is being unnecessarily exacerbated by what, in my opinion, is incorrect climate science.”

Dr. Clauser is not the first Nobel prize-winner to challenge the “settled” scientific and political narrative of “climate change.”

As The People’s Voice previously reported, the World Climate Declaration has been signed by by hundreds of scientists and professionals from around the world.

“There is no climate emergency,” the document states.

Greenpeace founder Dr. Patrick Moore also previously testified that the man-made climate change narrative is a “dangerous hoax” perpetrated by the elite to take away our most basic freedoms.

Thenewamerican.com reports: “The popular narrative about climate change reflects a dangerous corruption of science that threatens the world’s economy and the well-being of billions of people,” Clauser said. “Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-journalistic pseudoscience.”
602   rocketjoe79   2023 Jul 20, 9:49am  

Trollhole says

Shaman says



Trollhole says


Who da bitch on the right?


It’s Malala Yousafzai
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malala_Yousafzai




AGAIN! I ask: Who da bitch on the right?




Chloe Grace Mortez. Her latest acting role is "The Peripheral" on Amazon, an adaptation of William Gibson's eponymous novel. Great show, renewed.
603   stereotomy   2023 Jul 20, 9:52am  

Moretz also played "Hit Girl" in the original "Kick Ass," which was all flavors of awesome. Too bad she might have gone globohomo.
604   richwicks   2023 Jul 20, 11:14am  

Trollhole says

richwicks says


Remember that Afghanistan was justified for protecting women's rights?


Yet...nobody cares about women's rights in Saudi Arabia. Just like nobody cared that the 9/11 highjackers were all Saudi, not Iraqi or Afghani.

I cared. I used to think most people didn't know. Now I realize that most "people" aren't people. They are sophisticated farm animals.
605   richwicks   2023 Jul 20, 11:16am  

RWSGFY says


The justification has always been the denial of shelter to AQ.

The US supports Al-Quaeda. They created it. AQ fought for the US in Syria.

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23225


From: Sullivan, JacobJ
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 4:01 PM
To:
Subject: Fw:SPOTREPORT02/12/11(SBU)

See last item - AQ is on our side in Syria.


There seems to be little point in exposing just how deep the corruption is, when people like you just ignore it, because "duh news" doesn't report on it.
606   richwicks   2023 Jul 20, 3:49pm  

@RWSGFY - it doesn't matter to you one bit that the US created, funded, and supported Al Qaeda does it? A week later you'll go right back to "we were in Afghanistan to fight AQ".

You know why we were actually in Afghanistan? To increase opium production for one, and to put in a pipeline through Afghanistan from the Caspian sea. Dick Cheney has been talking about this pipeline for 25 years now.

Our government did 9/11, in part to start off 2 decades of war. You don't know that, you can't believe it, and even if you could, you'd defend it.
609   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2023 Jul 23, 5:20pm  

Patrick says






I just ordered this bad boy:

https://generatorbible.com/generators/champion/_201176/

Before they are banned from sale in a couple of months.
610   Onvacation   2023 Jul 23, 5:34pm  

just_passing_through says

https://generatorbible.com/generators/champion/_201176/

Before they are banned from sale in a couple of months.

from link


The Champion 201176 is EPA approved, but NOT CARB-compliant. Thus, it cannot be purchased or sold in California.

However, it features a spark arrestor, making it usable in forested areas.

In addition, the unit meets the ANSI/PGMA G300-2018 safety and performance requirements.

CARB SUCKS!

The same catalytic converter, lacking the CARB sticker, can be purchased for half the price in another state.
611   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2023 Jul 23, 5:59pm  

Onvacation says

CARB SUCKS!

The same catalytic converter, lacking the CARB sticker, can be purchased for half the price in another state.


I guess I'm not getting your point? I'm in Texas these days. Also renting. I'd get something like a generac if I was a home owner. This has a built in inverter where many do not.
612   The_Deplorable   2023 Jul 23, 6:37pm  

In less than 30 years, alarmists gave up on the Coming Ice Age and they are now pushing Global Warming!...



617   Patrick   2023 Jul 24, 5:33am  

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/why-progress-is-environmentalism





we just had a massive global experiment on this from covid lockdowns. travel dropped precipitously, offices were empty, few people flew or drove, factories were idled. we experienced a level of human suppression and a drop in activity of unprecedented (and unsustainable) magnitude.

the effect on global CO2 levels was 0. nothing changed. the rise was perfectly average and you cannot pick it out of the surrounding data no matter how hard you squint.

the most aggressive implementation of purported mitigation in human history occurred and it had no impact.

it was probably the most expensive intervention in human history and it did not move the needle even a micrometer. all cost, no benefit.

and now they want to try again?

maybe the NYT is right:

maybe climate truly is the new covid…



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