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WookieMan says

You'll never see a farmer or construction worker driving one of those around. Ever. It's like how the Hummer was. A bigger, impractical car with no utility that people thought made them look cool. How did that work out?

I was going to mention the Hummer craze a few days ago. Yep, we saw lots of them and now...where the heck did they all go?

@Eman, that looks like a photoshop. I could be wrong though.

GNL says

WookieMan says

You'll never see a farmer or construction worker driving one of those around. Ever. It's like how the Hummer was. A bigger, impractical car with no utility that people thought made them look cool. How did that work out?

I was going to mention the Hummer craze a few days ago. Yep, we saw lots of them and now...where the heck did they all go?

Eman, that looks like a photoshop. I could be wrong though.

Check out the link I shared above for a short clip of the wrap from all angles.

Eman says

Everyone wraps their truck with a different color.

Since the cheap grade of stainless steel used is already rusting, this is a smart move.
And I love stainless steel, even this cheaper grade is going to hold up way better then not stainless on salted roads.

zzyzzx says

Eman says

Everyone wraps their truck with a different color.

Since the cheap grade of stainless steel used is already rusting, this is a smart move.
And I love stainless steel, even this cheaper grade is going to hold up way better then not stainless on salted roads.

Oh god, so much misinformation out there. Wes, the lead Cybertruck engineer already debunked this.

Here’s a video Kim Java recently did on a farmer in Florida. Which appeared like rust, turned out wasn’t.

https://youtu.be/L-gPL7H7XHw?si=RtABQDQCGYXkfgTe

“You'll never see a farmer or construction worker driving one of those around.”

Watch, Wookie will change the definition of “a farmer or construction worker” now to make his point.

Do you know why Tesla started to advertise this year and not before Wookie?

“It's a toy. You'll never see a farmer or construction worker driving one of those around. Ever. It's like how the Hummer was. A bigger, impractical car with no utility that people thought made them look cool. How did that work out?”

I don’t care how impractical the Cybertruck is, but I’m willing to bet it will outsell the Hummer sales number.

People buy a truck or car for different reasons. Stop imposing your views on others. It’s not about YOU. Just like I don’t see myself ever driving a Yukon XL ever again, and possibly ICE cars.

Eman says

People buy a truck or car for different reasons. Stop imposing your views on others. It’s not about YOU. Just like I don’t see myself ever driving a Yukon XL ever again, and possibly ICE cars.

The reason can be dumb and expensive. Which is what Tesla is. I'd love a Ferrari. I'd never buy one or even take one for free. Frugality is a thing. Doesn't mean you're poor. You're smart. I want life experiences. Driving a car is a chore to get from A to B. It's why the South Park creators call Harley riders fags. They are.

Buy the cheapest, clean looking car you can. For me it's SUV's that beats out anything Tesla puts out. I get you're brand loyal, but it's about UTILITY for a vehicle. They're ugly, fast golf cart... great. I'd rather fit 5-7 people and tow 7,000lbs. To go have a good time and not sit at a charging station for an hour to get 100 miles and have to put people in the trunk.

No model of Tesla is practical for a family of 5. None. Now imagine driving 4-8 clients around? Nope. Most legacy manufactures cars aren't besides mini vans (ewww) or SUV's. Tesla has neither. So I'm not picking on Tesla, I pointing out the massive flaws. Know the battery tech. New sales are going to plummet with market saturation. They already are.

I'd be shorting Tesla stock if I was in that game. Fortunately I don't need to trade stocks. Or buy status cars. I'm living the smart life...

Their reason for purchase is different with yours. It works for them. They don’t care what you or anyone thinks. They make their own life choice and you make yours.

And….you’re wrong again by saying “You'll never see a farmer or construction worker driving one of those around.” WRONG AGAIN!

zzyzzx says

Since the cheap grade of stainless steel used is already rusting,

Since when does stainless steel rust? I have used it in salt water for years, and I have never seen stainless steel rust. It will dull, but not rust. By the way, if a magnet sticks to it, it is not stainless steel.

10 things that make the cyber truck a shitty truck. LMAO, originally was supposed to start at $39,000 but none are selling for less than $100,000. And it was supposed to go 500 miles between charges. At full towing capacity (11,000lbs) you can only go 90 miles.

https://youtu.be/KcVaRlLtBPw?si=CXN9lTi6UUyyOXIn

GNL says

10 things that make the cyber truck a shitty truck. LMAO, originally was supposed to start at $39,000 but none are selling for less than $100,000. And it was supposed to go 500 miles between charges. At full towing capacity (11,000lbs) you can only go 90 miles.

Eman doesn't get the point. I love my Nissan and my Toyota. I've had a Dodge, multiple Pontiacs, Jeeps, so this isn't my first rodeo. I've driven Tesla. They're not awful cars but they're overpriced golf carts. It would be dangerous as can be, but I can get a golf cart going 45mph and go for 150 miles. That's that range and speed most Tesla drivers need. No utility or space. Most municipalities allow you to drive carts. Around town, fuck, I'll save $50k on a golf cart. Whatever, I'm an idiot.

Tesla owners think this is some advanced tech. I've been driving electric golf carts since my childhood country club days. Instead of lead acid it's lithium. There's nothing new here besides the battery weighing less. You always have been able to power a car with lead acid or some form of electric. It just weighs 2-3k lbs more. It's still electric. This isn't new tech. Someone figured out lithium batteries, not Elon, and he put it in a car. Brilliant. lol So smart. Guess what? I did the same with my golf cart.

It's not about preference in cars. It's about utility. Tesla simply doesn't have it. I also value my time. Not sitting at a charging station for an hour to get 150 miles. About to drive that distance. I can go 400 miles in my big SUV, gas up anywhere, fit all my luggage which might include snowboards. There's not a Tesla I can do that with a family of five. NONE.

It's not about decisions and controlling people. It's about intelligence. I don't buy overpriced cars that don't provide utility. You're driving from A to B. A Tesla provides no utility and is simply a toy someone overpaid for. It's okay, just have to own it is all.

The reviewer is questioning if the door opener will be strong enough to open the door when it's ice encrusted. LMAO, you push a button for it to open the doors and then you pull on it. This is adding up to retardation. Sorry Eman.

Ok, serious Question: what is the best purpose for the cyber truck? Part of your answer cannot include..."it's so fast".

Tesla Motors was founded in 2003 by Mark Tarpenning and Martin Everhard. Elon Musk invested $6.5 million and appointed himself chairman of the board. A few years later he raised $30 million with help from the Google Founders. The investment came with the condition the he be named founder of the company. Then he proceeded to push out the founders, rewrote the history of the company to erase their names, and crowned himself the self-made “genius” behind the EV revolution.

Wow! I confess that I didn't know that one. But fortunately, my handy dandy meme library has just the meme to add here about this:



Eat that, Tesla Fluffers!

Warning: this article totally rips a new asshole in EV fantasists...particularly Tesla Fluffers

https://thegoodcitizen.live/p/evirtue-signaling

"What will future generations think of this brief experiment with nudging consumers toward electric vehicles that offered them no discernible benefits in any consumer categories (including “clean energy”) over petrol or hybrid versions at substantially greater economic cost?

If future generations of men ever recover any healthy levels of testosterone what will they say when they learn that Dodge ditched their roaring V8 HEMI engine of pure American muscle for spontaneously combustible batteries?

They’ll probably say what I’ve already said: EVs are spectacularly gay, and gay will never be cool.

In that sense, the Tesla is the perfect representation of the times we’re living.

Gay."

GNL says

The reviewer is questioning if the door opener will be strong enough to open the door when it's ice encrusted. LMAO, you push a button for it to open the doors and then you pull on it. This is adding up to retardation. Sorry Eman.

No need to apologize. The model 3 had icing issue with its handles. Tesla solved that so it should be a piece of cake to solve for the Cybertruck too IMO.

Elon is not a fan of car handles. The initial design had retractable handles just like the model S. Not sure what made them get away from that concept.

With respect to it being fast, the instant torque at any speed makes it really fun to drive. It puts a smile on my face every time. If you look at the crash and rollover tests, the Cybertruck outperforms any truck, or SUV out there. Tesla’s tech is top notch just like Apple. Very user friendly. All other brands feel outdated and hard to use once you’ve experienced a Tesla. So many convenient features that many cars don’t have.

The Tesla community has shared construction worker hauling sheetrock with the Cybertruck and farmer hauling hay with theirs too.

If the OEM car manufacturers don’t feel the pressure from EVs, why are they building EVs, while losing money on each EV they produce, and not sticking with their ICE business model?

I guess you can always go with a more conventional look...



As a reminder, the Tesla Cybertruck wrapped to look like an F-150 appeared shortly after Ford CEO Jim Farley criticized the Cybertruck for not being a real work truck.
https://insideevs.com/news/681745/tesla-cybertruck-shows-ford-f150-persona-some-more/

GNL says

what is the best purpose for the cyber truck?

It's a Status Symbol, bro.

That's the only purpose needed for the buyers.

Sheesh.

Interesting take from Edmunds.



https://x.com/edmunds/status/1766132950243164340?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

Eman says

If the OEM car manufacturers don’t feel the pressure from EVs, why are they building EVs, while losing money on each EV they produce, and not sticking with their ICE business model?

Don't tell me you think they're doing it voluntarily. Eman, this country is beyond FUBAR. I believe we will eventually be full on communist at some point.

Eman says

Interesting take from Edmunds.



https://x.com/edmunds/status/1766132950243164340?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

But Eman, you said all Tesla vehicles were top notch best ever. How can that be?

Serious question: if a farmer had his own charger and never had to leave the farm property, would a cyber truck be able to handle all required tasks needed from a pickup?

This is only one person’s opinion from a country that doesn’t have Tesla…yet.



https://x.com/buyandholdbr/status/1766258238490579148?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

GNL says

Eman says

If the OEM car manufacturers don’t feel the pressure from EVs, why are they building EVs, while losing money on each EV they produce, and not sticking with their ICE business model?

Don't tell me you think they're doing it voluntarily. Eman, this country is beyond FUBAR. I believe we will eventually be full on communist at some point.

I’m not an insider so I don't know if they’re doing it voluntarily, or not. I think they have to meet some EPA mpg standard, and this is one way of achieving it. However, I believe they can also buy the credit and don't have to make EVs. They have options. Why do they choose to manufacture EVs? 🤷‍♂️

GNL says

Eman says

Interesting take from Edmunds.



https://x.com/edmunds/status/1766132950243164340?s=46&t=5lEEPaezr6Ic-W4Z6huZ5Q

But Eman, you said all Tesla vehicles were top notch best ever. How can that be?

Everyone’s standard is different. I love my car. It’s the best one I’ve ever owned. After 6.5 years, I still love it. It’s always clean. My wife feels the same way about her Tesla, and I always keep her car clean too.

With the recent reviews on the new model 3 and the Cybertruck, they make me want to buy one of each. However, I’m waiting until our 2023 taxes are done to see how we fare in our tax liabilities before I buy another Tesla. Then see how our 2024 taxes fare before I buy another Tesla in 2025.

GNL says

Serious question: if a farmer had his own charger and never had to leave the farm property, would a cyber truck be able to handle all required tasks needed from a pickup?

I have no idea. I’ve never been a farmer. I provided the link to the YouTube video above. Maybe post your questions in the comment section, and Kim Java can help you get them answered by “the real farmer”?

GNL says

Eman says

If the OEM car manufacturers don’t feel the pressure from EVs, why are they building EVs, while losing money on each EV they produce, and not sticking with their ICE business model?

Don't tell me you think they're doing it voluntarily. Eman, this country is beyond FUBAR. I believe we will eventually be full on communist at some point.

This reminds me of this saying:

Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times

Eman says

This reminds me of this saying:

Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times

But you ran away from your country. Does that make you hard, weak or strong?

GNL says

Eman says

This reminds me of this saying:

Hard times create strong men
Strong men create good times
Good times create weak men
Weak men create hard times

But you ran away from your country. Does that make you hard, weak or strong?

I was a kid. South Vietnam fell and the communist took it over. It was a hard time for many. My dad (a strong man) managed to get all of us out and came to this lovely country.

Eman says

I was a kid. South Vietnam fell and the communist took it over. It was a hard time for many. My dad (a strong man) managed to get all of us out and came to this lovely country.

That's too bad because you missed the parts where Hard times create strong men and
Strong men create good times in Vietnam.

GNL says

Eman says

I was a kid. South Vietnam fell and the communist took it over. It was a hard time for many. My dad (a strong man) managed to get all of us out and came to this lovely country.

That's too bad because you missed the parts where Hard times create strong men and
Strong men create good times in Vietnam.

We’re only on this earth for a short time. We don’t get to choose which time frame it is. I try to make my stay during my time as enjoyable as possible and help my siblings and acquaintances along the way. Life is a journey be it strong or weak. So far, it’s been great. If there’s next life, I want to be my dad’s son again and marry to my wife again.

I love my family. I love my wife’s family. My dad said I did well marrying my wife and into a very nice family. 100% agreed.

Eman says

GNL says

Serious question: if a farmer had his own charger and never had to leave the farm property, would a cyber truck be able to handle all required tasks needed from a pickup?

I have no idea. I’ve never been a farmer. I provided the link to the YouTube video above. Maybe post your questions in the comment section, and Kim Java can help you get them answered by “the real farmer”?

Absolutely it can. It is perfect for localized farm work. Same thing for heavy construction, landscaping, local deliveries and majority jobs that don't require daily long hauls.

socal2 says

Absolutely it can. It is perfect for localized farm work. Same thing for heavy construction, landscaping, local deliveries and majority jobs that don't require daily long hauls.

Next question: can it do it better and more economically than an F-150?

GNL says

socal2 says

Absolutely it can. It is perfect for localized farm work. Same thing for heavy construction, landscaping, local deliveries and majority jobs that don't require daily long hauls.

Next question: can it do it better and more economically than an F-150?

These questions should be asked directly to the farmers. Only they know why they’re doing it. We’re speculating at best from the sidelines.

Maybe SoCal has a farming history, or a farmer himself so he can answer these questions. That would be so cool.

With respect to driving Tesla is a status symbol, someone mentioned this on X that a new Model Y sells for $36.5k after the Fed $7.5k tax credit while an average new ICE car sells for over $46k. I didn’t know this fact. Now I know what status means from some Patnet folks.

Eman says

With respect to driving Tesla is a status symbol, someone mentioned this on X that a new Model Y sells for $36.5k after the Fed $7.5k tax credit while an average new ICE car sells for over $46k. I didn’t know this fact. Now I know what status means from some Patnet folks

Maybe it's less about status and more about virtue signaling?

GNL says

Eman says

With respect to driving Tesla is a status symbol, someone mentioned this on X that a new Model Y sells for $36.5k after the Fed $7.5k tax credit while an average new ICE car sells for over $46k. I didn’t know this fact. Now I know what status means from some Patnet folks

Maybe it's less about status and more about virtue signaling?

I’m not sure what you mean by virtue signaling. Both SoCal and I bought Teslas because they’re fun to drive, and they serve our purpose. The tax credit and business deduction were some nice icing on the cake.

Eman says

GNL says

Eman says

With respect to driving Tesla is a status symbol, someone mentioned this on X that a new Model Y sells for $36.5k after the Fed $7.5k tax credit while an average new ICE car sells for over $46k. I didn’t know this fact. Now I know what status means from some Patnet folks

Maybe it's less about status and more about virtue signaling?

I’m not sure what you mean by virtue signaling. Both SoCal and I bought Teslas because they’re fun to drive, and they serve our purpose. The tax credit and business deduction were some nice icing on the cake.

I'm wasn't referring to you and SoCal. I do think lots of Tesla owners think they're saving the planet though.