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Portable loans - retardation 2.0


               
2025 Nov 15, 8:41am   299 views  15 comments

by FortWayneHatesRealtors   follow (3)  

From 50 year mortgage to portable loans.

Might ask, why is Trump doing this? Is he a charitable guy trying to help the little guy? Well no, he couldn’t care less. He’s rescuing prices.

They are trying to port low interest loans onto Fannie/Freddy, give lender investors bailout, and pass costs onto federal government taxpayers. Low interest mortgages are a loss for investors right now if people will keep them, investors get saved when those loans get pushed off on to government guarantees.

But why now? Because housing prices are cooling, investors scared and want a bailout. We abandoned capitalism for sake of inflated markets and temporary consumer bliss.

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1   SharkyP   2025 Nov 15, 8:52am  

He’s reacting to the market and trying to find ways to ease the housing crisis. Much like the fact that he’s removing tariffs that are killing the middle class when it comes to things like beef. he is truly a president “of the people and for the people”.
2   Blue   2025 Nov 15, 11:01am  

Does the comsumarism explain the real issue in so many things!

Consumerism is the perfection of slavery because it creates competition for prestige and economic logic, making people….

https://youtu.be/4pG-8XLLaE0
3   Ceffer   2025 Nov 15, 11:07am  

If I wanted to enter the housing market, a 50 year loan is as good a handle as any. Why do people believe that it is a 'permanent' handle? How many times do people re-finance as their circumstances change or they move?

I know people in California who support showy materialistic lifestyles by tapping home equity whenever they can until the model collapses and they have to move somewhere cheaper. In places like Orange County where show and materialism are religions, it's almost a standard model of materialistic financial instability. Fake it until you make it (or not).

TDS will criticize Trump for anything, but he is giving a grapple hook to the population to secure a homestead if they want while the new economy starts to build jobs and industries return to America. After that, anybody who wants to can re-finance to shorter term loans. I don't see that as a negative in the long run.
4   Glock-n-Load   2025 Nov 15, 11:16am  

Why not 100 year loans then? Or hell, 1000 year loans?

Why not let nature take its course? Were you promised a rose garden as soon as you bought a house?

Consequences are so out of vogue.
5   goofus   2025 Nov 15, 11:39am  

If I wanted to enter the housing market, a 50 year loan is as good a handle as any. Why do people believe that it is a 'permanent' handle? How many times do people re-finance as their circumstances change or they move?


If you’re paying more interest over 50 years than the principal itself — and mortgage lenders balloon interest in the early payments — you never build equity. After 25 years you finally start paying down the loan. It’s a fancy term for renting with full responsibility for maintenance and taxes.
6   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Nov 15, 12:12pm  

Ceffer says

If I wanted to enter the housing market, a 50 year loan is as good a handle as any. Why do people believe that it is a 'permanent' handle? How many times do people re-finance as their circumstances change or they move?

I know people in California who support showy materialistic lifestyles by tapping home equity whenever they can until the model collapses and they have to move somewhere cheaper. In places like Orange County where show and materialism are religions, it's almost a standard model of materialistic financial instability. Fake it until you make it (or not).

TDS will criticize Trump for anything, but he is giving a grapple hook to the population to secure a homestead if they want while the new economy starts to build jobs and industries return to America. After that, anybody who wants to can re-finance to shorter term loans. I don't see that as a negative in the long run.


Nothing stops you from getting a 50 year loan now other than banks won’t lend for 50 years because they don’t take on that kind of risk.

So Trump version is for government guaranteed credit, which will pass risk onto taxpayers and will skyrocket prices again since that’s what credit does.
7   MolotovCocktail   2025 Nov 15, 12:50pm  

SharkyP says

He’s reacting to the market and trying to find ways to ease the housing crisis. Much like the fact that he’s removing tariffs that are killing the middle class when it comes to things like beef. he is truly a president “of the people and for the people”.



8   MolotovCocktail   2025 Nov 15, 12:52pm  

Glock-n-Load says

Why not 100 year loans then? Or hell, 1000 year loans?

Why not let nature take its course? Were you promised a rose garden as soon as you bought a house?

Consequences are so out of vogue.



9   MolotovCocktail   2025 Nov 15, 12:53pm  

goofus says

It’s a fancy term for renting with full responsibility for maintenance and taxes.


That's called 'lease option' only w/o the option.
10   HeadSet   2025 Nov 15, 3:56pm  

Ceffer says

If I wanted to enter the housing market, a 50 year loan is as good a handle as any.

Here is the problem:
A builder has a collection of houses that sell for $455k. The builder finds that people can only afford a $2400/mo house payment, which means a max price of $400k (6% 30 year). So, he has to drop the price $55k to sell. But here comes the 50-year loan. Now that same $2400/mo will buy that $455k home. Prices stay up. Same house, higher price.
11   MolotovCocktail   2025 Nov 15, 5:39pm  

HeadSet says

Ceffer says


If I wanted to enter the housing market, a 50 year loan is as good a handle as any.

Here is the problem:
A builder has a collection of houses that sell for $455k. The builder finds that people can only afford a $2400/mo house payment, which means a max price of $400k (6% 30 year). So, he has to drop the price $55k to sell. But here comes the 50-year loan. Now that same $2400/mo will buy that $455k home. Prices stay up. Same house, higher price.


Thank you.
12   Booger   2025 Nov 15, 5:52pm  

Glock-n-Load says

Why not 100 year loans then? Or hell, 1000 year loans?

Wasn't there interest only loans at some point?
13   HeadSet   2025 Nov 15, 6:16pm  

Booger says



Before the 1930s, virtually all loans were interest only with a balloon at the end. One had to pay interest while also saving on the side to pay that balloon at the end. Massive foreclosures during the Depression is why the self-amortizing loan was created.
14   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Nov 15, 7:30pm  

Booger says

Glock-n-Load says


Why not 100 year loans then? Or hell, 1000 year loans?

Wasn't there interest only loans at some point?


When they did that previous bubble yes!!! Even subprime.
15   Misc   2025 Nov 16, 5:42pm  

FortWayneHatesRealtors says


Booger says


Glock-n-Load says


Why not 100 year loans then? Or hell, 1000 year loans?

Wasn't there interest only loans at some point?



When they did that previous bubble yes!!! Even subprime.

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Oh, they even went so far as to have negative amortizing loans. That was a real shit show. What you think I'd forget about the "Pick-a-Payment" option.

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