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MolotovCocktail
2025 Nov 23, 2:05pm
https://x.com/vtchakarova/status/1992704696835023141?s=20
MolotovCocktail
2025 Nov 23, 2:05pm
There are three distinct hierarchies in the whole negotiation process:
First Tier: The US, China, and Russia – the key global powers that dictate the broader geopolitical landscape amid Cold War 2 between the US and the DragonBear. Moscow engages predominantly at this level with the key systemic players America & China.
Second Tier: The European powers, including Germany and France, which have influence but lack decisive autonomy in shaping outcomes. Transatlantic partners such as Canada, Japan etc. No amount of summits, statements and joint declarations will replace the lack of hard power projection.
Third Tier: Ukraine – a key player in the war but missing in direct track of talks between the US & Russia at the highest level. Ukraine can only partially exercise influence over the negotiation process through its hard power projection on the ground and the direct backing it gets from the Second Tier.
Russia seeks to position itself on equal footing with Washington and Beijing while sidelining Kyiv from direct negotiations. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for assessing any future diplomatic moves.
https://x.com/vtchakarova/status/1992704696835023141?s=20
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Ceffer
2025 Nov 23, 2:21pm
Ceffer
2025 Nov 23, 2:21pm
So, we get 'bloodlines, the next generations' at the top of the tech company heaps? Why, don't the plebs have talented individuals? It's because the more things appear to 'change', the more they remain the same old game. Ukraine may as well be in the stomach of Moloch.
Of course, Hitler wasn't a 'commoner' either. He was a Rothschild bastard with the DNA sigils to gate transcendent empowering entities. Notice the resemblance to Obama with the oratory training?
from David Livingstone's volume 5 'Ordo ab Chao'.
Of course, Hitler wasn't a 'commoner' either. He was a Rothschild bastard with the DNA sigils to gate transcendent empowering entities. Notice the resemblance to Obama with the oratory training?
from David Livingstone's volume 5 'Ordo ab Chao'.
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FortWayneHatesRealtors
2025 Nov 23, 8:23pm
Ceffer says
Someone read fine print.
What happened to the peace plan where Russia could have all of Ukraine and drop nukes on Switzerland for ten days?
Someone read fine print.
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MolotovCocktail
2025 Nov 23, 8:41pm
MolotovCocktail
2025 Nov 23, 8:41pm
mell says
So?
They dictated terms..especially to Serbia to give up territory.
They claimed ethnic cleansing was going on
So?
They dictated terms..especially to Serbia to give up territory.
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Misc
2025 Nov 23, 9:45pm
Nope. The funds that Europe sent to Ukraine from the frozen Russian funds were only the interest those funds had earned. The principal wasn't touched, and the funds the Europeans sent to Ukraine are kinda forgotten about in the Peace Plan.
What causes financial instability in Euroland is the realization of losses on the debt European banks loaned to the Ukraine prior to 2022. This amounts to about $195 billion. US banks kept their noses clean, but the money laundering-kickbacks-graft-corruption was well attended by European actors well before the Russian incursion. The loans have been sitting on the banks' books at par since hostilities started but the losses will be realized eventually even though European Banking regulators will let the Euro banks keep pretending.
What causes financial instability in Euroland is the realization of losses on the debt European banks loaned to the Ukraine prior to 2022. This amounts to about $195 billion. US banks kept their noses clean, but the money laundering-kickbacks-graft-corruption was well attended by European actors well before the Russian incursion. The loans have been sitting on the banks' books at par since hostilities started but the losses will be realized eventually even though European Banking regulators will let the Euro banks keep pretending.
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Misc
2025 Nov 23, 11:25pm
Whitehouse statement on meeting with Ukraine.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/11/joint-statement-on-united-states-ukraine-meeting/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/11/joint-statement-on-united-states-ukraine-meeting/
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Ceffer
2025 Nov 24, 12:47am
Ceffer
2025 Nov 24, 12:47am
Everything EU et NATO et alia do is bent to destroy Ukraine and start WWIII. It is their only goal and all else is blather and fake theater. If they can't do that, then they must answer to their demon lords who they have failed.
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Ceffer
2025 Nov 25, 1:26am
Ceffer
2025 Nov 25, 1:26am
LOL! As you can see, short of absolute conquest by the Russians and/or the Ukrainian leader rats expatriating to their foreign bungalows and pilfered bank accounts, they will continue with their job description from the City of London and EU to become as insanely unreasonable as required to shut down any peace negotiation.
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Ceffer
2025 Nov 25, 4:53pm
Ceffer
2025 Nov 25, 4:53pm
Back and forth, back and forth, see saw hee haw. Will peace be settled as long as CIty of London can continue using them as a football? Remember all that international blackmail Ukraine has over the criminal enterprises? Trump hopium has been going on fumes for quite some time.
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MolotovCocktail
2025 Nov 25, 5:40pm
MolotovCocktail
2025 Nov 25, 5:40pm
Ceffer says
Definitely retarded enough.
Reminds me of some of the rantings of Ukey Nazi & BRICS fluffers here on PatNet.
I guess he must be from Planet UkieFluffer.
Definitely retarded enough.
Reminds me of some of the rantings of Ukey Nazi & BRICS fluffers here on PatNet.
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Ceffer
2025 Nov 27, 12:03pm
Ceffer
2025 Nov 27, 12:03pm
Rods of God on City of London and Brussels, and see how fast this 'war' (aka mass human sacrifice and depopulation and crime scene obliteration) resolves.
So, ongoing, for every 'solution', there will be an equal and opposite non-negotiable anti-solution?
So, ongoing, for every 'solution', there will be an equal and opposite non-negotiable anti-solution?
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MolotovCocktail
2025 Nov 29, 5:01pm
MolotovCocktail
2025 Nov 29, 5:01pm
Ceffer says
It was always going to be toast:
MolotovCocktail says
Except now Trump can say, "Ok...we are done with this shit. We tried."
AND....drum roll...the deal is dead. Long live the deal.
It was always going to be toast:
MolotovCocktail says
Except now Trump can say, "Ok...we are done with this shit. We tried."
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FortWayneHatesRealtors
2025 Nov 29, 5:36pm
Everyone thank Vicky Nuland and Lindsey Graham for this crap. McCain too, but he’s dead so no point.
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WookieMan
2025 Nov 30, 3:44am
WookieMan
2025 Nov 30, 3:44am
MolotovCocktail says
I think that is most Americans take. I think the Ukraine war has kind of warn thin on most people. Basically who cares anymore.
The problem with the whole conflict was Russia looking like shit at first and incompetent and Americans thought Ukraine could win. So people jumped on board. Russia is incompetent, but they have people and nukes as a last ditch effort. US is not going to nuke back. Until Ukraine and Z realize this they'll get their asses handed to them and have a demographic collapse if it already hasn't happened.
This is a Europe problem at this point. Not a US problem.
Except now Trump can say, "Ok...we are done with this shit. We tried."
I think that is most Americans take. I think the Ukraine war has kind of warn thin on most people. Basically who cares anymore.
The problem with the whole conflict was Russia looking like shit at first and incompetent and Americans thought Ukraine could win. So people jumped on board. Russia is incompetent, but they have people and nukes as a last ditch effort. US is not going to nuke back. Until Ukraine and Z realize this they'll get their asses handed to them and have a demographic collapse if it already hasn't happened.
This is a Europe problem at this point. Not a US problem.
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Ceffer
2025 Nov 30, 12:33pm
Ceffer
2025 Nov 30, 12:33pm
Irony again of so called 'Banderites' fleeing to Israel? Of course, it is a Rothschild/City of London military outpost as has been Ukraine. Our buddy Benjamin Fulford says that Hitler is the father of Israel.
https://t.me/CIG_telegram/65589
https://t.me/CIG_telegram/65589
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MolotovCocktail
2025 Dec 3, 2:12pm
MolotovCocktail
2025 Dec 3, 2:12pm
Patrick says
It's what started WW1.
Security guarantees is what started WWII. Let's not do that again.
It's what started WW1.
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AD
2025 Dec 3, 5:31pm
AD
2025 Dec 3, 5:31pm
FortWayneHatesRealtors says
Yes, as the former PM of Ukraine was not interested in joining the EU and wanted to increase trade relations with Russia (as it had with the other European countries). That was when Obama's CIA decided to help overthrow him in 2014.
Everyone thank Vicky Nuland and Lindsey Graham for this crap. McCain too, but he’s dead so no point.
Yes, as the former PM of Ukraine was not interested in joining the EU and wanted to increase trade relations with Russia (as it had with the other European countries). That was when Obama's CIA decided to help overthrow him in 2014.
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Eric Holder
2025 Dec 4, 5:45pm
Eric Holder
2025 Dec 4, 5:45pm
So Witless Witkoff takes "peace plan" written for him by his butt buddy Dmitriev (with whom he partnered in a corrupt Zaryadya Park deal back in 2015-ish) and crudely translated to English to Donnie and says Pukin will agree to it, guaranteed. Donnie says ok, do it. He takes it back to Moscow as a Big Beautiful Trump's Peace Plan, waits for 3 hours to get an audience with Pukin, then spends 5 hours going through every point with Pukin (according to the Bellend himself) and the whole thing gets flat-out rejected.
Witless Witkoff looks like a clown (but he's used to it), Kushner, who was dragged along on the promise of "sure thing", looks like a clown (this one is not used to it, for now) and Donnie looks like one because he again fell for the Lucy's football trick.
Everybody puffs their cheeks and says "productive talks" while being exactly at the point Donnie was 1 year ago when he started calling his "buddy" Vlad whom he "knows well".
Clown world.
Witless Witkoff looks like a clown (but he's used to it), Kushner, who was dragged along on the promise of "sure thing", looks like a clown (this one is not used to it, for now) and Donnie looks like one because he again fell for the Lucy's football trick.
Everybody puffs their cheeks and says "productive talks" while being exactly at the point Donnie was 1 year ago when he started calling his "buddy" Vlad whom he "knows well".
Clown world.
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RWSGFY
2025 Dec 4, 5:53pm
RWSGFY
2025 Dec 4, 5:53pm
Zaryadya is old news. Witless Cunt is developing some buildings in Moscow RFN. With Dmitriev and Blavatnick.
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Ceffer
2025 Dec 4, 7:03pm
Ceffer
2025 Dec 4, 7:03pm
LOL! There will be no'peace agreement'. Just road bumps on the Freemason planned WWIII from City of London and Brussels. The difference is that one would hopium neither Trump nor Putin will fall for the bullshit of WWI and WWII, both equally fake and equally arranged.
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Summary:
1) Confirmation of Ukraine’s sovereignty, Ukraine receives U.S. security guarantees, but with conditions.
2) Ukraine remain neutral and will never join NATO (added to their constitution). NATO also agrees it will never accept Ukraine. This will be legally binding.
3) The size of Ukraine’s Armed Forces is restricted. Ukraine remains a non-nuclear state.
4) Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk are recognized as Russian. Kherson and Zaporizhzhia are “frozen” along the line of contact. Some territories become a demilitarized buffer zone under de facto Russian control.
5) NATO does not station troops in Ukraine.
6) The U.S. and Europe launch a major investment package for Ukraine’s recovery. $100 billion in frozen Russian assets go to rebuilding Ukraine; the U.S. takes 50% of the profits. Europe adds another $100 billion.
7) Russia in the global system, gradual lifting of sanctions. Russia’s return to the G8. Long-term U.S.–Russia economic cooperation.
8) Humanitarian issues: “All-for-all” prisoner exchange, including civilians and children. Ukraine must have education programs to de-Nazification.
9) Energy and special facilities. Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant resumes operation under IAEA supervision; electricity split 50/50 between Ukraine and Russia. The U.S. helps rebuild Ukraine’s gas infrastructure.
10) Internal political processes in Ukraine. Elections held 100 days after signing the agreement. Full amnesty for all participants in the war.
11) Implementation and oversight. The agreement is legally binding. Oversight carried out by a “Peace Council” chaired by Donald Trump. Violations result in sanctions. Immediate ceasefire and withdrawal to agreed positions after signing.
https://x.com/WallStreetMav/status/1991621920941285819?s=20