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100705   Patrick   2019 Feb 12, 8:07pm  

Sure, but that's a different issue.
100706   anonymous   2019 Feb 13, 4:21am  

Reality check: Trump continues pushing false claims at El Paso rally

President Trump made a number of false claims Monday night during his rally in El Paso as he lobbied for building a southern border wall — including a claim that the arena the rally was held in could fit 8,000 people and that the El Paso Fire Department allowed him to let in 10,000.

Reality check: The fire department said the arena is actually capable of holding even fewer people than that — about 6,500 — and that they did not give Trump permission to admit people beyond the capacity, per El Paso Times. Trump also underestimated the size of Beto O’Rourke’s competing rally, claiming there were between 15 and 300 people. Estimates suggest O'Rourke had between 7,000 and 15,000 people in attendance.

On the wall: Trump said the government has already “built a lot of” the wall. While Congress last year approved an additional 14 miles of extended barrier, there has not been a single mile of wall built since Trump assumed the presidency, the AP reports.

•Trump claimed a border wall would prevent drugs from coming into the U.S. But the Drug Enforcement Administration determined in 2018 that the majority of drugs coming through the border arrive through official ports of entry.

On immigration and crime: Trump falsely claimed, as he has several times before, that a border wall helped decrease crime in El Paso. In fact, El Paso’s violent crime rate was the second-lowest among similarly sized cities before the wall was built, and the city maintained second place after the wall was erected, the New York Times reports.

•Trump claimed that about 2% of unauthorized immigrants who are arrested return for their court hearings. The actual number is closer to 72%, according to Justice Department data.

On oil and natural gas: Trump falsely claimed the U.S. is “now the number one producer of oil and natural gas,” when in fact the U.S. has been the world's most dominant since 2013, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

On the Green New Deal: Trump falsely claimed the Democrats’ Green New Deal will ban Americans from owning cows and “shut down American energy” and “air travel.” The plan calls for a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions, but does not ban cows or air travel, per the AP.

On experimental drugs: Trump claimed patients couldn’t use experimental drugs while terminally ill before he signed the “Right to Try” law. However, another similar federal program had already been in place, according the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

https://www.axios.com/trump-fact-check-el-paso-rally-b6cd4c17-1529-4de0-9ce1-251de1567ca6.html
100707   Tenpoundbass   2019 Feb 13, 6:14am  

LOL he has a Civil War History book in his Office and the Corry Booker's of Shit Bag Politics run with the Elgatouno Retarded bent on Reality.

Hey sorry no tickey, Virginia is still full of KKK Blackface assholes. And wife beaters, they will be forced to step down and the Republican will replace them all.


LOL feel that Sting? That's Pride Fucking with you....
100708   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Feb 13, 7:12am  

Left is already burning books. Who needs education when they got welfare.
100709   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Feb 13, 7:13am  

"Nevermind our two guys in blackface and our sexual assault, this Republican had an old Confederate History book in his Office!"
100710   Onvacation   2019 Feb 13, 7:15am  

Where?
Not in California. Out here you'll get lynched for wearing a red hat!
100711   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Feb 13, 7:16am  

Is this one of those important issues the Dems insist we focus on?

I'm more interested in why we have Two Blackface Dem Governors and an alleged Serial Sex Assaulter Lt. Gov in VA and NC.
100713   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Feb 13, 7:20am  

I wear the hat, haven’t been lynched yet.

I think it’s keyboard warriors on social media who frighten people, not in real life though. I’m not in SF, so don’t know how it’s out there.

Onvacation says
Where?
Not in California. Out here you'll get lynched for wearing a red hat!
100714   GNL   2019 Feb 13, 7:25am  

That area is part of America and the war is an example of government tyranny. The south, and any state, has a right to secede. It's just a wee bit different than you would like to believe.

Your imagined argument is ridiculous.
100715   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Feb 13, 7:26am  

Honestly don’t care for it, but fuck the assholes who screwed it up for Dukes of Hazzqrd. You took me from being indifferent to hating sjw’s.
100716   GNL   2019 Feb 13, 7:28am  

It's part of the liberal plan...erase history so we can rewrite it and own it for the purpose of forcing our agenda of self hate on everyone.
100717   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Feb 13, 7:30am  

Elgatouno says
Tenpoundbass says
LOL he has a Civil War History book


#triggered?


From The guy that was compelled to make two posts about this insignificant matter?
100718   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2019 Feb 13, 7:48am  

Elgatouno says
CovfefeButDeadly says
From The guy that was compelled to make two posts about this insignificant matter?


Wow 5 respondents #supertriggered


100719   BayArea   2019 Feb 13, 7:52am  

So many? I’ve never seen one of those flags in person.
100720   Bd6r   2019 Feb 13, 7:57am  

That is really a YUUGE problem. Not government debt, not intervention in Iraq based on lies, not race- and gender based discrimination aka affirmative action...

Also, I do not see so-called progressives complaining about thousands of Mexican flags in Cinco de Mayo celebrations in South of the US. There were quite a few wars with Mexico, no?
100721   Shaman   2019 Feb 13, 7:59am  

I see it as an act of rebellion against authoritarians like the ones who dominate the Left. It’s a way to tell the Man to fuck off and die because you ain’t gonna care what he says.

Check your privilege, you sneering elitist!

There’s a reason the rebellious youth of today are wearing “Trump” clothing. Lost track of how many high school boys I’ve seen sporting a hat or socks or a shirt with the MAGA or Trump logo. It’s cool to rebelliously support the President. Probably pisses off their parents too!
100722   zzyzzx   2019 Feb 13, 8:01am  

100723   zzyzzx   2019 Feb 13, 8:02am  

100724   Shaman   2019 Feb 13, 8:02am  

Hahahahahjahahah!
What a stupid article!
The Left is really reaching now!
Probably still smarting from all the racists and anti-semites they’ve had exposed lately.
Bbbbbbut Republicans have old inappropriate books!
100725   zzyzzx   2019 Feb 13, 8:02am  

100726   zzyzzx   2019 Feb 13, 8:03am  

100727   zzyzzx   2019 Feb 13, 8:03am  

100728   zzyzzx   2019 Feb 13, 8:05am  

Another Democrat:

100729   zzyzzx   2019 Feb 13, 8:12am  

JFK also:
100730   Bd6r   2019 Feb 13, 8:23am  

zzyzzx says
JFK also:

Fake News. You forgot that Orange Man created Confederate flag, Nazi Party, and slavery. He also forced Kennedy to hold Confederate flag.
100731   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Feb 13, 8:52am  

Elgatouno says
Yes pretty much all of it



Faker than Jussie Smolett's Hate Crime?
100732   Rin   2019 Feb 13, 9:22am  

Lynyrd Skynyrd troupe ...

www.youtube.com/embed/y4C9Uhi8qnc
100733   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Feb 13, 9:44am  

Elgato don’t forget your hammer and sickle today.
100734   Tenpoundbass   2019 Feb 13, 10:17am  

Ooohhhh Liberal stick their foot in their own mouth Bite 'em in the Ass!
100735   Tenpoundbass   2019 Feb 13, 10:19am  

As a Southerner that heard the mantra the South Will Rise Again, growing up in South Carolina during the Reagan years.

It was Democrats that wore those hats.

In fact! It was Carter's Presidency that gave rise to that Mantra.
100736   RWSGFY   2019 Feb 13, 10:22am  

"Many" is a lie.
100737   RWSGFY   2019 Feb 13, 10:29am  

Wrong: in addition to GOP and stupid racist donkeys we have Greenies and Commies. That makes it a 4-party system. So your wish is granted. Happy now?
100738   Goran_K   2019 Feb 13, 10:56am  

Well, Democrats are currently splintering into the normal pandering DNC (Killary, Kamala, etc), and the Islamo-Socialist wing of the DNC (Occasional Cortex, Sanders, Omar, etc).
100739   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Feb 13, 11:09am  

If we moved to a Ranked Voting system, 3rd parties would have a fighting chance.

I'd also be for using Ranked Voting combined with a popular vote BUT ONLY if the voter fraud could be stopped. Popular vote right now would be a disaster because of vote-harvesting areas of some states.
100740   HeadSet   2019 Feb 13, 11:09am  

Goran_K says
Well, Democrats are currently splintering into the normal pandering DNC (Killary, Kamala, etc), and the Islamo-Socialist wing of the DNC (Occasional Cortex, Sanders, Omar, etc).


So maybe 3 major parties?

Republican
Democratic
Democrat-Socialists
100741   RWSGFY   2019 Feb 13, 11:20am  

HeadSet says
Goran_K says
Well, Democrats are currently splintering into the normal pandering DNC (Killary, Kamala, etc), and the Islamo-Socialist wing of the DNC (Occasional Cortex, Sanders, Omar, etc).


So maybe 3 major parties?

Republican
Democratic
Democrat-Socialists


No matter how the parties are named or created - the shit eventually (and rather quickly) settles into effectively two-party system.

100742   Tenpoundbass   2019 Feb 13, 11:24am  

Europe uses 5 to 12 parties to make sure the Establishment wins.

All you need is the other 4 parties to be beholden to the Establishment then that one pesky party trying to do the People's will, is guaranteed to never win elections.

Democrats love the sound of extra parties now, but I had to fist fight a table full of Liberals during the 2008 election, when I told them I voted for Nader.
100743   RWSGFY   2019 Feb 13, 11:28am  

Yeah, left are famous for hating and burning the books:

100744   CBOEtrader   2019 Feb 13, 11:38am  

Hugolas_Madurez says
Yeah, left are famous for hating and burning the books:



Yup. Collectivism will always result in book burning, and eventually people burning. Today this is embodied by the intersectionalist left, as well as the extreme right.

The problem is intersectionality is being pushed as moral righteousness (think 1930's weimar germany).

Whereas the right has no issue whatsoever in drawing a circle around right wing collectivists and saying GTFO to those assholes. The left cant seem to get enough of their own toxicity. This is why the KKK has a few thousand members whereas antifa has a few thousand chapters and potentially millions if active supporters. It's absolutely gross.

Individualism is the answer, but the left will call you nazi (again think 1930's weimar germany out of control righteousness).

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