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jazz_music says

Other people are rapists to so what’s the big deal with having a rape club?

Screaming "A is raping" while B is raping as well seems like a wrong policy. Perhaps we should scream "A and B are raping, arrest both of them".

Actually said today by Smollett's lawyers:

“It is the Mayor and the Police Chief who owe Jussie - owe him an apology - for dragging an innocent man’s character through the mud. Jussie has paid enough.”

They actually said this.

jazz_music says

It turns out General George S. Patton was right in 1945 to compare the Nazi Party to the Republicans and Democrats, because there isn’t as much difference between them as we would like to believe.

Patton was reprimanded, but who knew, after all, that in just a little more than half a century, the Republicans would themselves become Nazis?

Patton thought we fought the wrong enemy after overseeing the Germans and getting to know them. Many think he was killed for his later views.

Quigley says

Dude, have you even ever heard of logic?

DOn't accuse me of logic problems. I wasn't suggesting anything you think I might have been thinking with your logic "skills."

I was just observing a pattern and a coincidence.

First I saw many right wingers posting memes comparing Trump to SMollett. For reasons totally beyond me. No connection, No reason to compare. No reason for meme, I guess other than possibly right wingers think liberals are as embarrassed by Smollett as you guys are by Trump ? (but Smollett is just a dumb actor....Wait...)

Then about a week later, both are suddenly declared to be exonerated of many crimes that many believed they had committed.

It's an ironic coincidence. I now understand a reason for a meme involving both of them.

marcus says

Then about a week later, both are suddenly declared to be exonerated of many crimes that many believed they had committed.

It's an ironic coincidence. I now understand a reason for a meme involving both of them.

Except in Trump's case, there is no 66 pages detailing evidence from Uber rides to Check #1063 signed by the defendant to the assailants.

Nor a CONFESSION by the assailants.

I didn't say it was identical. The crime Smollet was suspected of committing was a hoax attack against himself. With Trump it was treasonous conspiring with Russia in the 2016 election campaign. That's why I originally didn't get the comparison, unless it was the guy we are embarrassed bout versus the guy you are embarrassed about.

Very different yes. Quite an astute observation.

MisterLearnToCode says

no 66 pages

Today it came out that the Mueller report was 300 pages, that Barr summarized with very few patial sentence Mueeler quotes, in 4 pages.

marcus says

Today it came out that the Mueller report was 300 pages, that Barr summarized with very few patial sentence Mueeler quotes, in 4 pages.

But since there were no indictments, it's pretty much safe to say there was no Check #1063 written out to the Trump Organization signed by Putin.

Just observing an ironic coincidence. In a period of less than a few days they are both exonerated.

We could probably find others similarities.. Trump says Obama wiretapped him. His own highest level security experts say that's bullshit.

A President lying about another President wiretapping him without ever disclosing why he thinks its true (reminiscent of what he said about Obama's birth certificate for a couple years). Trump is notorious for his lies. Some of them quite huge.

But yeah, it's not as bad as some small time actor I've never heard of hiring some guys to do a fake attack (assuming that's true).

marcus says

A President lying about another President wiretapping him without ever disclosing why he thinks its true (reminiscent of what he said about Obama's birth certificate for a couple years). Trump is notorious for his lies. Some of them quite huge.

Hang loose. Unlike the FISA abuses, which are going to be declassified and haven't so far because of fears the Dems would call it obstruction of the now unsupportable Russian Collusion Claims.


marcus says

But yeah, it's not as bad as some small time actor I've never heard of hiring some guys to do a fake attack (assuming that's true).

Marcus, you fail to note the abundant physical, eyewitness, and even Confession evidence in the Smollett case is of a kind that can only be described as a slam dunk. The Assailants have confessed, and their own electronic communications and bank transactions confirm their narrative. On top of Smollett's iCloud records uncovered by warrant, also confirmational.

I'm almost getting tired of repeating myself about the overwhelming evidence of Smollett's guilt and the strange and highly unusual legal limbo tactics employed by Foxx The Chicago Chief of Police, the Mayor Rahm Emmanuel, and the entire Prosecutor's Association of Illinois have all condemned the handling of the Smollett case against a member of their own party.

The comparison isn't remotely similar in terms of evidence or circumstance.

MisterLearnToCode says

Marcus, you fail to note

Wtf, you're in an argument with a straw man. I never said they were nearly identical or that Trump is just as guilty of crimes (that are a million times worse) as Smollett is of his. I've never really been interested in the Smollett case. What, he's some small time actor that the OBama's were friendly to. So fucking what ?

For the 10th time, I was just putting two things together.

1) Memes about Trump and Smollett that I didn't understand.

2) Them both being exonerated witin a few days of eachother.

Nothing else dude.

Although as you make me think about it, and I ask myself, who do I think has less integrity ? Trump or Smollett ?

It's an interesting question. And I really don't know. We know about Trumps massive tax avoidance, probably illegal, stiffing people that did work for him, huge lies. The whoremongering while married, and on and on. And then we have this one story about Smollett, a guy whose actions don't really affect any of us at all, other than in the right wing media, but certainly reflect very poorly on him. Probably smokes way too much weed.

You people are mighty selective about the people whose behavior you choose to judge (not that I disagree with you ) about Smollett, as small time as it was, versus a guy you gave a psss to and voted for, for President, and now defend endlessly just becasue he appealed to you know what.

Now, in terms of proportionality, the total lack of sentence does not fit the crime. However, the other points are true; specifically, this isn't a violent offense, he poses no immediate risk to physical safety, he has no violent priors.

That said, a more appropriate sentence would be to make him pay the costs for his own apology tour: a series of televised appearances where he will apologize to Chicago and the State of Illinois, and in particular past victims of real violent crimes whose dignity he besmirched by trivializing their suffering with a self-serving hoax. A tour where he can express his contrition for stoking animosity between groups and remind everyone that though hateful violence is in fact at an all-time low, we should remember that acts like his could cause a reversal to that trend.

Nothing to see here Trump Cucks. GO back to your bubble before you learn how utterly fucking stupid you are and the degree to which you have fucked yourself.

Kakistocracy says

“Fixing our debt will now require reversing the harm that has already been done with unpaid-for tax cuts and spending increases, in addition to confronting the rising costs of Social Security and Medicare with spending changes and/or additional revenue,” CRFB says.

Oh yeah, forgot to add to this: he should also pay for the cost to the state of the investigation, as those resources could have been committed to actual crime instead of his hoax.

marcus says

marcus says

Although as you make me think about it, and I ask myself, who do I think has less integrity ? Trump or Smollett ?

It's an interesting question. And I really don't know.

Whoa!
Really?
TDS deranged

Failed culture.

marcus says

We could probably find others similarities.. Trump says Obama wiretapped him. His own highest level security experts say that's bullshit.

You really need to update your current events knowledge. This info is now known. Trump proven right once again. That “fact check” was proven to be a lie. But I doubt you will even accept the truth, deep as you are in the narrative you wish to believe.

People will believe a lie for two reasons:
1)They want it to be true.
2)They are afraid that it’s true.

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/325648-trump-was-right-after-all-on-the-obama-wiretapping

willywonka says

Failed culture

Are you talking black culture or American culture? The first one seems self evident, the second is definitely teetering towards the abyss.

The man self-identified as a dog, so either he has to be let free or euthanized.

National Advancement of Cock Chugging Pattieboys he deserves that award.

Clearly he needs to be adopted to a “forever home”. Should be on those scammy celebrity infomercials... “for just 5$ a month you can provide food and love to a pet that never had love”. Don’t you feel bad for the sad looking puppy?

Again?

Didn't they create bacteria that feed on that stuff?

https://phys.org/news/2016-03-newly-bacteria-plastic-bottles.html
Is this how civilization ends?

His defense attorney said he is a Pomeranian now who after the spay and neuter clinic is no longer a threat to society and should be adopted by a good home.

Do the winners still get to be DA's in Chicago?

Mariana's Trench? Isn't it wise to use a condom?

Wait you think we think Trump dropped the ball more than we recognize Resist movement, Obama Judges, Lying sack of Shit RINOs, the whole Cable Network's leadership and 95% of the anchors that work for them, role in any perceived short comings of failings of his administration at this juncture?

You guys are really grasping straws. The more he lets the scumbags dangle out there, the more certain he will have to be reelected.

I don't think any Democrat has reckoned with the fact that more Trump exposes and rips the scab off the Evil Lord Syth Marxist face and exposes the pure Evil shit pile underneath. The more voters are going to expect Trump to clean it up. The first election he appealed to his base to drain the swamp. The Next time around those that thought he was nuts the first time around. Are going to be panicking begging Trump to clean this shit up. "Wait! You can't leave it like THIS!"

The people that either sat out the last election or the ones that voted for Hillary will be begging the loudest for Trump to clean it up.

Just like you're really secretly deep down in side are doing right now, for even bringing a thread like this one up.

Don't worry Trump will save us all, you too! You'll See Jazzy!

We will leave a layer of plastic goo in the geological record.
In 15 millions yrs, racoon scientists will wonder what did us in for a long time.

Did you vote for Hillary? You’re a loser. Well, let me rephrase it. You’re a sore loser.

I didn’t vote for either of them. Does that make me a genius? ???

Only on Rightwing watch.

Wanna see the Idiot report? I wonder how many innocent kids were shot in Chicago yesterday, what the weekend casualty count will be by Monday.

So I'm showing a Gay guy here at work that thinks Mueller is just dreamy so Trump must still be Guilty. I was showing him Gateway Pundit.
I Had him Google it, to show him how The Gateway Pundit, the only 100% no nonsenses no bullshit reporting site on the Internet. Is unfairly treated on the Internet controlled by Liberals.
I was trying to show him how they are not the first Choice, but all of the Liberal's Smear weaponed anti free speech hate group websites get first crack and mansplaining to you News they don't like. He points over the right hand side and goes... "Oh LOOK! Their own float right Biography calls themselves an extremist Right wing website, with extreme racist and bigoted views. I had to point out to him the super tiny by line at the bottom said Powered by Wikipedia.

I then took off my Gloves and told him, you really are a bottom feeding idiot aren't you? You want to believe what ever Google tells you blindly no questions asked.
you need them to provide you a safespace. He's then telling me about how extreme rightwingers should be abolished from the Internet.

I asked him what is his opinion of what a far rightwing extremist is?

I said is it just anyone that has conservative views, nuclear family, religion, but respects everyone and gets along with everyone just has an opposite view than the "Far" left?

I mean there was a time when Far right wingers were the Jonesborough Church(Which I now believe was just Liberal opposition putting on the Yetti suit like they do with Nazi and KKK shit during Trump. What happened to the Jonesborough Church? They seemed to have went away once Obama got elected no more "God hates fags" and showing up at funerals mocking the Dead. Which is the sick sadistic shit Liberals like to do anyway. Certainly nothing we see any self respecting Conservative doing. Unless it's dickhead McCain that was part of a Treasonous Coup and overthrow of Trump.


What happens did the SPLC get demoted? They are the ones that lead on these smear campaign. Like to have been a fly on the wall in that Liberal Scumbag meeting.
Chicken Shit Lowlifes.

There is no such thing as a "white supremacist terrorist" organization.

Those are figments of librul minds and the biased MSM against all patriotic flag waving, bible toting, gun slinging, beer drinking, white males who are being disenfranchised by everyone and everything around them. - (mostly by other white men who run things but don't let the secret out)

Jazz - I for one am shocked and appalled that you are put such things on the forum.

Shocked and appalled I tell you in my best Lindsey Graham imitation.

Surely you have read the threads and postings that show up here daily to know such things simply do not exist in Murica !

And if they do per chance - there sure as hell aren't any white varmits - no sireee. Just some fun loving pranksters who may have gone a wee bit overboard but heck - boys will be boys ya know.

There are only roving gangs of illegals (brown illegals) out to get the women and the jobs held by the patriots. That and lazee drug addicted booze drinking welfare recipients who are busting the nations budget with their lagresse.

Get on the Trump Train now and stop bashing those good ole boys - shucks - they probably just playing one of those school pranks again like in Charlottesville.

I prefer 'Melanin Impaired Terrorist Group'. It is insensitive to call it anything else.

Every day is a terrorist event at black schools especially for non blacks.

If they were to close Chicago Public Schools every time somebody got shot, they'd hardly ever be open.

There’s an idea to save taxpayer money.

MisterLearnToCode says

If they were to close Chicago Public Schools every time somebody got shot, they'd hardly ever be open.