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102467   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Apr 29, 9:59pm  

@OccasionalCortex.

Great Piece.

Takeaway: They love Kamala Harris, because they know she'll be a good Dem who will blast Whites, and be "fake-tough" on Wall Street.

Kamala Harris was a favorite of many in the room. The U.S. senator from California now describes herself as a populist and highlighted a past confrontation with JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon over foreclosures in her pre-campaign book, but in 2012, as California’s attorney general, she passed on prosecuting OneWest and its CEO, Steven Mnuchin. In this cycle, she has been the Democrat perhaps most active in seeking Wall Street money (Citi vice-chairman Ray McGuire and Pine Street partner Brian Mathis are helping with her Wall Street outreach, and she recently headlined a fund-raiser hosted by LionTree CEO Aryeh Bourkoff) and occasionally its advice (BlackRock’s Michael Pyle, an Obama-administration alum, is advising her on economics). “People are generally in search of a candidate who has the right set of views, has the right character, but also can win,” Rattner told me later. “Right now, it is very hard to see who checks all three boxes.”


They also love Werner
But another option held promise: moderate Virginia Democrat Mark Warner, who’d twice before considered running. The senator agreed to meet last summer and listened as they promised funding and presented a plan to get his name on the ballot in all 50 states. Then Warner, assessing the probability of a successful third-party run, told them, “Thanks, but no thanks.”



He's the most dangerous Democrat, since he represents Social Security-free Federal Workers living in Virginia, and has long discussed stealing and reneging on Social Security Contributions.
102468   WookieMan   2019 Apr 29, 10:21pm  

jazz_music says
US imperialism madness must stop if at all possible.


Why? And who (country) would fill the void? Would the world be a better place? Can't just say this without explaining how and why this should happen.
102469   SoTex   2019 Apr 29, 10:37pm  

Medium is blocking vomit boy! Scandal!
102470   kt1652   2019 Apr 30, 1:04am  

HonkpilledMaster says
jazz_music says
There’s no sense of balance to what our country does overseas, not just Iran, Syria, Venezuela, but even China too. Our military industry has us in over our head. It needs to stop.

America’s largest foreign soil base is Garrison Humphreys home to 45,000 personnel in South Korea and right across from China.

We would absolutely freak if a country did this to us. The oligarchs media would not let us get a minute rest if any country built a supply logistics base the size of the Pentagon just a hundred miles or so off our coast.

http://time.com/5324575/us-camp-humphreys-south-korea-largest-military-base/


Right, because China has never invaded the Korean Penninsula - and I don't just mean 1952.

Let's start after WWII: List of wars involving the US.

Korean War
Laotian Civil War
Lebanon Crisis
Bay of Pigs Invasion
Simba rebellion, Operation Dragon Rouge, Congo
Vietnam War
Communist insurgency in Thailand
Korean DMZ Conflict
Dominican Civil War
Insurgency in Bolivia
Cambodian Civil War
War in South Zaire
Gulf of Sidra encounter
Lebanese Civil War
Invasion of Grenada
Action in the Gulf of Sidra
Bombing of Libya
Tanker War, Persian Gulf
Tobruk encounter
Invasion of Panama
Gulf War
Iraqi No-Fly Zone Enforcement Operations
First Intervention in the Somali Civil War
Bosnian War
Intervention in Haiti
Kosovo War
Operation Infinite Reach. Sudan and Afghanistan
War in Afghanistan
Iraq War
War in North-West Pakistan
War in Somalia
Operation Ocean Shield
American-led intervention in Libya
Operation Observant Compass, Uganda
American-led intervention in Iraq
American-led intervention in Syria
Yemeni Civil War
American Intervention in Libya
102471   kt1652   2019 Apr 30, 1:46am  

Scattered across the globe are 800 American military bases while Washington’s principal enemies du jour Russia and China have, respectively, only one and none.

It is depressing to observe how the United States of America has become the evil empire. Having served in the United States Army during the Vietnam War and in the Central Intelligence Agency for the second half of the Cold War, I had an insider’s viewpoint of how an essentially pragmatic national security policy was being transformed bit by bit into a bipartisan doctrine that featured as a sine qua non global dominance for Washington.

https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/04/26/rumors-of-war-washington-is-looking-for-a-fight/
102472   HeadSet   2019 Apr 30, 7:06am  

This sounds suspicious, like the crap that was pulled on Kavanaugh.
102473   WookieMan   2019 Apr 30, 8:17am  

Listen, at the end of the day, I'd actually think most Patnetter's would agree the military expenses and reach is over the top. The problem is our economy and frankly parts of the world have become reliant on our military and the threat of it. If we don't pull back carefully, our economy could suffer massively and then people would be bitching about that.

I do think we could reduce our footprint to an extent and would like to see it happen. But close a foreign base and guess what, someone else is going to fill the void. It has to be done strategically. Are trade routes protected that get us products or our products to other countries? It's not just about money or us being an evil empire. We're a global economy and more people would be dying if we weren't doing what we do. We kill, but more we be killed if we didn't.

Whether it's right, wrong or stupid, we are the stabilizing force in the world regardless of how many incursions we've been involved in. It wasn't the US starting WWI or II. I'd bet you can take KT's list of US "wars" and add up the casualties and it doesn't come close to touching WWI or II. We start or intervene in shit for sure, but nothing close to the magnitude of what Europe has done. Be pissed at them... and understand it was Europe that forced our hand into this position while they rebuilt from their bullshit. No MAJOR war (or even close) in 50 years and people don't even remember Europe couldn't keep it's shit together for 30 years before 2 of the globes deadliest wars? Fuck America though...
102474   NDrLoR   2019 Apr 30, 8:46am  

WookieMan says
America
The only bulwark against world wide forced conversion to Islam.
102475   Bd6r   2019 Apr 30, 11:21am  

Taking land away from Peasants in Mount Pleasant is WINNING! Taking $4 billion from peasants to give to foxCONn in incentives is yet more WINNING!
102476   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Apr 30, 11:52am  

jazz_music says
No coverage


Ask the NYT and WaPo why they stopped covering Afghanistan in 2009.

Lack of coverage is due to the WaPo assigning 100 staffers to "Git Trump"
102477   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Apr 30, 11:53am  

WookieMan says
I do think we could reduce our footprint to an extent and would like to see it happen. But close a foreign base and guess what, someone else is going to fill the void. It has to be done strategically. Are trade routes protected that get us products or our products to other countries? It's not just about money or us being an evil empire. We're a global economy and more people would be dying if we weren't doing what we do. We kill, but more we be killed if we didn't.


Afghanistan could be handed off to India, which would be the most elegant solution. They have rough relations with China, the Russians won't want to muscle in on a top military customer, allows India to encircle Crapistan to the West, and gets us out of there.
102478   socal2   2019 Apr 30, 12:49pm  

kt1652 says
It is depressing to observe how the United States of America has become the evil empire.


OK - so does America get any credit for the remarkable peace and prosperity around the globe since we became an "empire"?


102479   fdhfoiehfeoi   2019 Apr 30, 12:59pm  

jazz_music says
Carter then said the US has been at peace for only 16 of its 242 years as a nation.


Carter missed the root cause. We've only been without a central bank twice in our history. Try fighting a war without the ability to print endless debt, doesn't work so well.
102480   Bd6r   2019 Apr 30, 1:07pm  

jazz_music says
18 years war in Afghanistan

Hopefully we all can agree here that 18-year war without any end in sight and at this point, without any reason is bad from all possible respects - fiscal, moral for troops, generating support for Islamists by constant bombing of marriage processions, etc. If someone should be worried about Islamists in Afghanistan, it is China, India, and Russia - let them spend the money and lives of their citizens.
NuttBoxer says
Try fighting a war without the ability to print endless debt, doesn't work so well.

Exactly. Or have a balanced budget amendment, where budget has to be balanced in all cases except official, declared war. Most of wars these days are not declared.
102481   Tenpoundbass   2019 Apr 30, 1:11pm  

Patrick says
Yup. I mean, seriously, like what about the Mongols under Genghis Khan?


I always thought Jimmy Carter was a class act ex-President. For the last 30 years I have said he is best ex-President in History.
But like him, Bono, Gates, and the EU Do Gooders, every region they touched turned to shit and taken over by Warlords and created humanitarian crisis.

Those Water Wells and Measles shots came at a huge price. And what Measles shots?

Bill Gates fucking lied to the World He gave billions to Terrorists to create their shit, while telling us he eradicated Measles world wide. Now that the displaced refugees are in America. We're seeing where Billy boy Measle money went. Jimmy Carter too. Fuck them all. Lying Globalist bastards!
102482   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Apr 30, 1:57pm  

jazz_music says
U.S. solder killed in the Republic of Niger, shows his last moments via his attached body webcam


1. VKontact is Russian Facebook. I assume VK is the Russian Periscope to VKontact. I thought you didn't like foreign influence?
2. Niger is under Islamist Fundamentalist Attack daily. Hardly a week goes by without butchery of Christians in the name of Allah.
3. The music overlaying that is Muslim Jihad Victory A-Capella.
102483   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Apr 30, 1:59pm  

jazz_music says
We are basically at war with Iran again and wanting to force regime change there and in Venezuela. It's no coincidence we are all programmed to hate Venezuela's leader. When the straight of Hormuz closes a global chain reaction will be triggered and Venezuela's oil could save us from the collapse of the highly illegal derivatives market and so the global economy. Both China and Russia stand with Iran and they are protecting Venezuela from our regime change operations while we make their economy scream.


The Straits of Hormuz is an international waterway that all of the Gulf States and the World wants open. Iran's closure of it would be an Act of Aggression.

The USN will keep the Straits open in the name of Freedom of the Seas, which is an International Right the US protects for everybody because Cheap Europeans won't do it.
102484   Booger   2019 Apr 30, 2:09pm  

Jimmy Carter is a moron.
102485   socal2   2019 Apr 30, 2:29pm  

jazz_music says
You are not alone in the conclusion that we are not the world's altruistic guardian as the propagandists will have you thinking,


Who is responsible for the massive reduction in death and violence around the world from war since the US became the "Evil Empire"?
102486   socal2   2019 Apr 30, 2:43pm  

jazz_music says
WTF finally proof that Jesus is God it seems we'll have to fire our guns more often and achieve more massive reduction in death and violence around the world!!! YAYYYYYYYYYY!! LOL


Do you dispute the fact that there has been a dramatic reduction of death and violence from war since America became the "Evil Empire"?

If the America haters are going to blame every death in the Middle East and around the world on the American Military Industrial Complex. Logic suggests the US also gets credit for the remarkable peace and prosperity over the last half century.
102487   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Apr 30, 2:56pm  

socal2 says
If the America haters are going to blame every death in the Middle East and around the world on the American Military Industrial Complex. Logic suggests the US also gets credit for the remarkable peace and prosperity over the last half century.


That's not how it works with the Left, SoCal.

102488   Ceffer   2019 Apr 30, 4:12pm  

Why do you question the wisdom of oligarchs?
102489   WookieMan   2019 Apr 30, 4:34pm  

To the negative posters on this thread. Can one of you please explain socal2's graph that everyone conveniently ignored? WWI isn't even on there either. If you have a problem with a nation or region the finger should be pointed at Europe clearly. They fucked up twice big time and we took over.

Shits not as dark as y'all like to think, but keep believing the lie.

socal2 says


jazz_music says
U.S. solder killed in the Republic of Niger, shows his last moments via his attached body webcam


More American tourists likely die overseas than soldiers in the current environment. STOP TRAVELING PEOPLE!!!! Oh wait, one of the biggest reason they're able to travel is because we've made the world a safer place. Sometimes with a gun, but sometimes just being there. But hey, let's pull back and hope some Hitler type regime doesn't fill in the void. Has logic gone missing or something. Weird day today.
102490   RWSGFY   2019 Apr 30, 5:19pm  

WookieMan says
If you have a problem with a nation or region the finger should be pointed at Europe clearly. They fucked up twice big time and we took over.


Three times: Vietnam was an attempt to mop up after French screwed the pooch there.
102491   Booger   2019 Apr 30, 6:43pm  

WookieMan says
More American tourists likely die overseas than soldiers in the current environment. STOP TRAVELING PEOPLE!!


Stop traveling to shithole countries.
102492   Bd6r   2019 Apr 30, 7:31pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
It's WINNING! twice if FOXCONN does nothing but complain the county won't let them run a massage parlor in the empty building that was supposed to be pumping out $1500 iPhones.

Triple WINNING! if peasants are sold for organ harvesting to PRC after their land and money has been taken! Otherwise their smell and complaints Burden Masters of Universe!
102493   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Apr 30, 7:31pm  

You mean the IRGC doesn't meddle in 17 countries outside of Iran?
102494   RWSGFY   2019 Apr 30, 7:33pm  

jazz_music says
Iran’s independent-minded government


How fucking cute.
102495   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Apr 30, 8:06pm  

FIRING SQUAD, 2 TIMES! JUST IN CASE HE SURVIVES THE FIRST ROUND!
102496   RWSGFY   2019 Apr 30, 9:31pm  

jazz_music says
The US should get credit for the remarkable peace and prosperity from the last half century


Definitely.
102497   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Apr 30, 10:32pm  

Si Vis Pacem, Para bellum
102498   Ceffer   2019 Apr 30, 10:40pm  

He's just been bum blasting the wrong people for leftovers. Time to start getting some of the high paying bum blasting in big government.
102499   Onvacation   2019 May 1, 6:06am  

Tim Aurora says
“did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance” of Mueller’s work,

What did he miss?
102500   marcus   2019 May 1, 6:17am  

102501   CBOEtrader   2019 May 1, 6:20am  

Onvacation says
Tim Aurora says
“did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance” of Mueller’s work,

What did he miss?


Slow down. Answering your question would require logical thought, with neither memes nor innuendo.

not gonna happen.

Ex: hey @Marcus ... to what "evidence" are you referring?
102502   Tenpoundbass   2019 May 1, 6:46am  

CBOEtrader says
Ex: hey @Marcus ... to what "evidence" are you referring?


They don't have none.

Like my Black Liberal friend.

He keeps having to admit Trump is far better than any President in our lifetime or possibly if ever.
But he keeps saying now, Republicans do have the better policies than Democrats right now. It's just Trump! Couldn't ya'll have picked someone better to be President.

I keep telling him, we didn't pick him, he picked us. And NO! There isn't anyone better. Then when I press him, and ask him about what would he expect if Trump was just impeached or removed, or if the Liberals got their midterm Mulligan do over and Trump was thrown out and replaced. Who does he expect to replace him?

Liberals do not have a firm grasp of reality. If they did they would work on a message and look forward and strategize on how to win future elections.
102503   Shaman   2019 May 1, 6:56am  

Tim Aurora says
four-page memo to Congress describing the principal conclusions of the investigation into President Trump “did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance” of Mueller’s work


How could any summary ever capture the full context and nature and substance of any 400 page report? The important thing is that Barr didn’t lie or leave out anything germane to the investigation into Russian Collusion. And he later released as much of the report as was lawful to do.
Mueller is just butthurt that he couldn’t find shit on Trump after years and millions of man hours trying.
Done.
102504   RWSGFY   2019 May 1, 8:49am  

jazz_music says
And Iran threatens to shut down traffic in the Strait of Hormuz which is 20% of the world’s oil.

You think that might impact the markets?


They will get their asses handed to them on a plate a-la April 18, 1988. What happened to the markets on that day? Did it matter in the grand scheme of things?
102505   Shaman   2019 May 1, 9:01am  

Sometimes it’s not enough to simply growl to prove you’re the biggest baddest dog on the block. You have to actually tear someone’s ass off to maintain respect.
Iran has been asking for it.
102506   Tenpoundbass   2019 May 1, 9:03am  

Good!

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