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104067   Bd6r   2019 Jul 23, 4:54pm  

Perhaps they should at some point start paying the debt down, as candidate Trump promised.
And I fail to see why R's are not holding Trump's feet to fire - they in theory are the party of fiscal responsibility...but apparently only when D's are in power.
104068   Bd6r   2019 Jul 23, 5:05pm  

jazz_music says
Because it is our billionaires causing these countries to suffer while we work towards getting a more cooperative regime. While we wage neverending wars. While our economic hit men work on destabilizing those countries.

While I agree that meddling in other countries is criminal and stupid, the evil American Capitalist is not hiding under every bed. In some cases, the locals are doing a magnificent job trashing their own countries. For example, I am unaware of recent US interventions in Nigeria, Senegal, Pakistan, etc, and people are still running to West from there. I do not see why we should accept people from those countries. On the contrary, many countries where US intervened - Japan, Taiwan, S. Korea are pretty affluent. Vietnam is getting there as well, although if South had won, they would have been rich for 30 years already.
104069   RWSGFY   2019 Jul 23, 5:13pm  

Onvacation says
And how is that Americas fault?


EVERYTHING is America's fault, silly!
104070   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Jul 23, 10:22pm  

Buttigig should be impeached absolutely.
104071   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Jul 23, 10:41pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
For bumblasting in the Gary, Indiana city limits or wherever he is supremo?


Something along those lines yeah.
104072   Ceffer   2019 Jul 23, 10:47pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Wantonly Indifferent Criminal Cuntiness?


There's nobody from either party who doesn't meet that description. Maybe it's time to make Putin our dictator to make everything in America all right again!
104073   Onvacation   2019 Jul 24, 6:30am  

Thingsthatmakeugohmmm says


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If there was no collusion or obstruction why does tRump have his panties in a bunch over Mueller testifying?

Because for the last couple of years Mueller has been colluding to obstruct the presidency.
104074   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2019 Jul 24, 8:02am  

Those quotes leave out Mueller's stuttering and mumbling.
104075   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2019 Jul 24, 8:04am  

Poorly if you consider back firing a bad thing.

There is a reason he won't comment on the source of the investigation today and the dossier. Those 'ongoing matters' are going to bite a lot of lefty fucks in the ass.
104076   Bd6r   2019 Jul 24, 8:50am  

good luck with that - no billionaire has ever been successfully prosecuted. "Hope springs eternal"
104077   Bd6r   2019 Jul 24, 9:05am  

Onvacation says
Because for the last couple of years Mueller has been colluding to obstruct the presidency.

To earn money for a few law firms while carefully balancing to not offend any side of the investigation would be my guess.
104078   Ceffer   2019 Jul 24, 9:16am  

Mueller is obviously tainted. He is a Globalist Blasey Ford political tool. He needs to be fined for every penny of taxpayer money he wasted.
104080   Ceffer   2019 Jul 24, 11:10am  

Maybe he and Mueller can be cell mates. Give 'em each a shank and see who comes out alive.
104081   Onvacation   2019 Jul 24, 11:13am  

HEYYOU says
Prime trolling

I never open a heyyou thread until someone comments.

I think I do recall they said something coherent once, but I could be mistaken
104082   clambo   2019 Jul 24, 11:15am  

Trump doesn't give a shit but the Democrats keep having dog and pony shows hoping that the lie will become reanimated like a corpse.

After 2020 you may expect to see assholes like Brennan, Clapper, Comey, et. al under the hot lights for their mischief in 2016.
104083   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jul 24, 11:34am  

The whole testimony was a disaster. Mueller barely knew what planet he was on, and looked bumbling and fumbling.

Mueller only came today in an attempt to reignite the impeachment fires and try to distract from the upcoming FBI/Obama Administration investigation into collusion to interfere with the Election.
104084   Tenpoundbass   2019 Jul 24, 11:44am  

He was only good in a couple of movies. Because he played the same rough and rugged dark drifter in them.
The rest of his movies sucked. He wasn't dynamic enough for any role beyond The Hitcher.

His Blind Fury was a rip off of a Japanese series Zatoichi.
104085   Bd6r   2019 Jul 24, 11:55am  

OccasionalCortex says
Trump is not in control of the eGOP. As you yourself reinforce when you say, "And I fail to see why R's are not holding Trump's feet to fire - they in theory are the party of fiscal responsibility...but apparently only when D's are in power."

If Trump gets a second term tho, that is when he can strike -- if he choses to do this -- by vetoing budgets left and right.

He is blowing deficit out of water with tax cuts he pushed through, although tax cuts will probably delay recession until after elections. In any case, at some point deficit will become unmanageable, and we will end up in an economic cataclysm.
104086   Onvacation   2019 Jul 24, 11:58am  

d6rB says
In any case, at some point deficit will become unmanageable, and we will end up in an economic cataclysm.

No doubt. What can't go on forever won't go on forever.
104087   Tenpoundbass   2019 Jul 24, 12:03pm  

Robert Mueller doesn't seem fit enough to run a senior citizens bingo event let alone an independent investigation into a president of the United States.
104088   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Jul 24, 12:03pm  

HEYYOU you should take yourself out of that propaganda world that you read every day. You are making yourself go crazy if you just listen to constant stream of left wing bullshit.
104089   Bd6r   2019 Jul 24, 12:07pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
slavery

NO! Selling plebes and their children for organs is much more profitable. WIN-WIN! Fresh organs, increased life spans for Masters of Universe (TM) and a lot of economic activity, with GDP growing fast!
104090   Ceffer   2019 Jul 24, 12:10pm  

They have re-named the Mueller Report 'The Senile Report'. The Dems couldn't crowbar a new indictment out of that fucker if they promised him a Snickers and new nappies.
104091   Ceffer   2019 Jul 24, 12:11pm  

He lived a long time for a Replicant.
104092   Misc   2019 Jul 24, 12:13pm  

I dunno, other countries have negative interest rates, so why not us too. If people are willing to buy treasuries and get less back for them at maturity than they initially paid, mathematically the federal debt can continue to increase forever. Of course, realistically the system will implode at a certain point, but with negative interest rates that point may be further than most would guess.
104093   Ceffer   2019 Jul 24, 12:57pm  

Now they'd just complain they couldn't play anything without a pension and three times as many taxes.
104094   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Jul 24, 1:48pm  

HEYYOU says
FortWayneIndiana says
HEYYOU you should take yourself out of that propaganda world that you read every day. You are making yourself go crazy if you just listen to constant stream of left wing bullshit.


Iraq has WMD!


that won't solve your problem.
104095   EBGuy   2019 Jul 24, 2:41pm  

104096   Shaman   2019 Jul 24, 3:15pm  

Sorry guys, it was boring as shit and I fell asleep.

104097   Bd6r   2019 Jul 24, 3:16pm  

OccasionalCortex says
No he isn't. Tax cuts do not cause deficits; spending does. ALWAYS.

Does not make sense at all. If we cut taxes to 0 and do not decrease spending at all, is it still problem with spending? Seems to me that it is a balance, and both tax cuts or insufficient collection and bloated spending is a problem.
104099   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jul 24, 4:12pm  

HeadSet says
Squad Insurrection Problem


Squad Insurrection Situation Increasing Exponentially (SISIE)
104100   Bd6r   2019 Jul 24, 4:15pm  

OccasionalCortex says
Yup! Because the very concept of 'deficit spending' involves spending money one did not bring in revenues to cover it. Don't take my word for it. I didn't establish that definition. So this isn't about my 'opinion' but established fact. This is why they call it 'deficit spending'.

Then Trump should perhaps start vetoing spending...I think he can line-item veto it. But he does not do it - why? He also sounded support for increased military spending - your link says "One place to start is with rolling back our military spending".
104101   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jul 24, 4:17pm  

Unfortunately Obama and W both did not implement new aircraft, the B-52 is 50-60 years old, the F-16/F-15/A-10 systems 40 years old. Most of our Naval Vessels are also up there, but there is no way to get around aging airframes of Fighters and Strike Aircraft. Big Bombers, Cargo Aircraft fly mostly straight and level and are overengineered to carry big payloads. But Refurbishing Fighter/Strike aircraft is almost as expensive as building new.

What we need is a new A-10 and a replacement F-16, rather than build out all F-35s. The USAF trying to use F-16s to replace A-10s is simply retarded Anti-CAS bias of the Force.
104102   Bd6r   2019 Jul 24, 4:21pm  

HonkpilledMaster says
Unfortunately Obama and W both did not implement new aircraft, the B-52 is 50 years old, the F-16/F-15/A-10 systems 40 years old. Most of our Naval Vessels are also up there, but there is no way to get around aging airframes of Fighters and Strike Aircraft. Refurbishing them is almost as expensive as building new.

Something needs to be cut, and military and some "unfunded entitlements" such as Medicaid seem most reasonable.
104103   Bd6r   2019 Jul 24, 4:24pm  

OccasionalCortex says
It's like you didn't read a damn thing I wrote.

Your whole Hate Trump crap was entirely predicated on this bs notion of deficit spending caused by tax cuts. I blew that away with something called 'factual reality'. Now you do a 180 in the conversational context but try to do it like you were continuing on to support your original point while trying to avoid acknowledging it was total bullshit.

Prob is: I don't play that game, pal. Find some other sucker. What do you take me for, a Libtard?

I don't take you for a libtard, do not worry. But if you say that "spending" is a problem that causes budget deficits, then "spending" needs to be cut - and one way how Trump can do it is by line-item veto. If budget is not brought in order, it WILL detonate, no matter what our semantics are. I think you misunderstood what I wrote.
104104   Rin   2019 Jul 24, 4:41pm  

Great scene in 'Split Second' ...

www.youtube.com/embed/hH69ZrCmgm8
104105   Ceffer   2019 Jul 24, 4:47pm  

Best psycho-Nazi blue eyes in the Biz.
104106   Bd6r   2019 Jul 24, 4:49pm  

OccasionalCortex says
All the Feds have to do is reign in the GROWTH of spending relative to the growth of GDP.

Hopefully they will do it - but unfortunately their track record says otherwise.

OccasionalCortex says
Clinton v. City of New York,

Thanks, I was 20 years out of date with my knowledge. However, President can veto spending bills -

Regardless of the final form the appropriations bills take, the last step in enacting program funding consists of the president signing the bills. As with more traditional legislation, the president has the authority to veto appropriations bills, and Congress can then attempt to override the veto. A two-thirds vote is required in both chambers to overturn a veto.
https://www.acenet.edu/news-room/Pages/A-Brief-Guide-to-the-Federal-Budget-and-Appropriations-Process.aspx

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