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What did they expect when they named the organizations after a stripper and a good ole boy.

So that means rates go up, prices down to compensate. Right?

They all sell to FR/FN

Definitely another great idea from Donald Trump; the US government and the American taxpayers should never be in the mortgage guarantee business.

Someone who has a clue may understand that the govt. helps you go into debt and then you must stay put and pay the property taxes and support society's needs and govt. pensions.

Lol, prehensile penis.

HEYYOU says

the enemy

Why think of Republicans as "the enemy"?

Are they not your fellow citizens? Do they have any points worth listening to?

Absolutely.

Trump really does just keep on doing the right thing. God bless the mofo.

How much prosperity, peace, and freedom from rackets will it take to get through to the "orange man bad" crowd?

The government does not belong in the loan business. When that happens loans are not given out based on the ability of the borrower to repay the loan. Instead it's given out based on who votes for whom. That's a bad way to do business.

HonkpilledMaster says

Where's Obama's endorsement of his Vice President?

Biden keeps dropping tells that he's being coached by Obama. The phrasing and his choice of words, his petty jabs. "Donald Hump... Freudian Slip!" he's borderline senile, his mind isn't fast enough nor sharp enough to shift gears like that. Had that been an actual slip up, and not written in his speech. He would have never caught it, he never catches any of his gaffes.
"Come on MAN! Come on MAN!" that's Obama's favorite stand by to diminish criticism that Obama can't intelligently debate. That's why Obama did better at town halls, doing def Comedy Jams. When he had to pull it together and address the nation like a President. He was a condescending Jack Ass to over half of the nation while he divided the country with his toxic rhetoric he always got a pass on. If you listen to Biden's message as his momentum grows. It's more and more turning into Obama's platform. Obama is coaching him, Obama has his hand on the hand that has the Emperors thumb at the DNC and Pollsters to make sure they don't give Biden a thumbs down.

Obama is Biden's corner man, every time Biden takes a beating and we think his last gaffe was his final undoing. He comes back with more channeling Obama.
Remember Obama is a petty jive bitch ass, he never does anything with transparency on the up and up. Not even endorse his patsy.

And Obama is doing all of this, not because he loves Biden's sense of leadership. Obama is slated to be his running mate. Just as Hillary is slated to be Warren's running mate.
They want their turns and they are going to ride in half dead corpses to get there.

And Obama is doing all of this, not because he loves Biden's sense of leadership. Obama is slated to be his running mate.

Obama as Biden's running mate? Is this like Putin-Medvedev taking turns?

What do the Trump haters think of Biden's wish to double the Federal Capital Gains tax to 40%?

How is that going to affect your future financial well being?

I of course didn't mention that California also has its own Capital Gains Tax.

If you hate Trump you hate yourself if you have any money.

Republican State Sen. Dan Bishop defeated Democrat Dan McCready

Republican Greg Murphy also beat Democrat Allen Thomas in a contest to succeed the late Republican Rep. Walter Jones Jr. in the state’s 3rd Congressional District.

This election was touted as a "Referendum" on Trump by the media, as they though the Dem would win. Wonder what they will say now.

Finally, now maybe he will wake the fuck up and stop asking the fed reserve to “lower rates” and instead rescind the damn charter while getting congress to abolish the bill that allowed it.

Tim Aurora says

HeadSet says

And Obama is doing all of this, not because he loves Biden's sense of leadership. Obama is slated to be his running mate.

Obama as Biden's running mate? Is this like Putin-Medvedev taking turns?

Total Bullshit but we digress from the topic. If you want to talk the ticket start a new thread and we can discuss that there.

Tim, it's a forum. Conversation ebbs and flows. A point was brought up that Obama let people go and/or they resigned. Trump has had people fired and/or resigned. What is the difference? For some reason, because it's Trump, it's a problem.

Here's the deal. I don't know you. But presumably you can run for office and hire and fire whoever you want. My suggestion is to stop complaining and you can just fix what you deem is a problem, Trump. Run for president. Whether it's left or right leaning people, bitching on Patnet ain't solving a thing in your world. You seem to have the solutions to all that is wrong with the country, go ahead and step up and fix it then.

I do find it disturbing that the Federal Reserve is not federal, and has no reserves.

It's a cabal of big banks dedicated to the proposition that no bank in the cabal should be allowed to fail no matter how irresponsibly they lend.

There's a good book on this for kids called "Creature from Jekyll Island".

https://www.amazon.com/Tuttle-Twins-Creature-Jekyll-Island/dp/1943521026/

Explains to kids really well how government controls value of currency.

Tim Aurora says

he sold his soul to the devil and hired Russia. 1. He does not get along with smart people
2. He does not know whom to hire
3. He is totally stupid and people just tire of him

Definitely impeachable offenses!.

Tim Aurora says

My goal is to get a Democrat elected and I will work on that including voice my opinion here.

Why does it need to be a democrat? I think most americans would like a great leader, irregardless of the political party.

My "pension" is my own dough invested in stock mutual funds in an IRA, Roth IRA, SEP-IRA, Variable Annuity and taxable accounts.

If you aren't investing in stocks while interest rates are low, maybe you are missing out on having a secure retirement.

OccasionalCortex says

Freddie would be turned back into private companies but would be required to pay taxpayers a fee for government protection. It would also open the market up to competitors for the first time.

Excellent and extremely logical.

Lets now wait and see how Media will turn this into ORANGEMANBAD. Any guesses from patnetters?
I propose Talking Point #1 will be TRUMP IS RAYCIST.

Overt insanity has consequences

clambo says

What do the Trump haters think of Biden's wish to double the Federal Capital Gains tax to 40%?

How is that going to affect your future financial well being?

I of course didn't mention that California also has its own Capital Gains Tax.

If you hate Trump you hate yourself if you have any money.

Cap gains is already double-taxation for most ordinary investors. Increasing it to 40% is insane. Fuck Biden. Here's an alternative proprosal. Abolish cap gains up to 500K, 10% 500k-1MM, 20% 1MM, 30% 2MM, 40% 5MM+.

I'm guessing he picked up some of the independents who realized the conclusion of the Mueller hoax was the moment they need to wake up and accept that there really is an industry of journalistic dishonesty aligned against him.

clambo says

What do the Trump haters think of Biden's wish to double the Federal Capital Gains tax to 40%?

I wonder if he really means this. IMO it would markedly reduce capital investment, hurting growth ... I would imagine noticeably.

Maybe it's his campaign strategy of making people think he's woke and has some "fuck the rich" gusto in him, but he doesn't plan to really do it.

Still, I don't trust that shit.

We need a Federal "Rocket Bankruptcy" procedure for failing banks, that slices and dices the assets to performing companies faster than Benihana's.

No bailouts, investors suck a dick, performing loans go to performing companies. The only way companies, in the long term, are going to do right is if the investors are freaked out over losing bigly. Not if they are assured sucker taxpayer to the rescue.

6rdB says

Lets now wait and see how Media will turn this into ORANGEMANBAD. Any guesses from patnetters?
I propose Talking Point #1 will be TRUMP IS RAYCIST.

I think by turning it over towards private industry and letting market forces be more dominant, it may naturally gravitate in a direction that makes it harder for poor people to get loans / favorable terms in some cases. This might happen if it becomes less political and more objectively based.

The coincidence that poor people are more likely to be black / brown, will be invoked as usual. It may even end up overall better for poor people, but that doesn't matter - they will just zoom in and focus on some specific aspect supportive of their narrative.

Trump made change > change hurts poor > poor mostly black > raycist change

OccasionalCortex says

FortWayneIndiana says

Explains to kids really well how government controls value of currency.

There is a video documentary with the same name.

Ha! I wonder if it's done by same people. This is by libertas group. They are libertarian.

Recommends? Who in the hell prosecutes?

#fuckchina

Word is McCabe appealed to the DOJ not to charge him, but deputy DA Rosen rejected his request.

Also, the 302 - a mandatory document after an interview - with Strzok's interview with Flynn, is missing from the FBI Database. "Missing".

The Insurance Company is trying to barter with Trump to not go after Flynn if they leave McCabe alone. Thing is, Flynn is already going to get off because the Insurance Company violated Brady and exculpatory evidence, there are witnesses for Flynn, so it's already not going to happen.

Tim Aurora says

1. He does not get along with smart people
2. He does not know whom to hire
3. He is totally stupid and people just tire of him

4. He's your president until 2024

Because the leftoids and dems have completely abandoned God and their judeo-Christian tradition every crime committed by clergy is now by default The GOPs and Trump's fault? lol

Trump is very wise to hold up the "4 Women of the Democratic Apocalypse" as representative of the direction of the Democratic Party as a whole.

I'm surprised the party hasn't been able to stop those 4 and stop the insanity that is the Democratic primaries, where each contestant tries to out-crazy the others to get attention. Looking forward to round 3 of the debates 3-ring-circus tonight!

Can not say for sure if they are tRUMP voters and GOP icons. However, they did rip people off exactly as OLD! TESTAMENT! commands.

All 12 defendants, including the former pastor Victor Gonzalez, were arrested Tuesday in El Centro, San Diego and Brownsville, Texas. They face charges of conspiracy, forced labor, document servitude and benefits fraud.

Officials identified them as:

• Arnoldo Bugarin, 47, of El Centro
• Jose Gaytan, 47, of El Centro
• Sonia Murillo, 51, of El Centro
• Sergio Partida, 32, El Centro
• Ana Karen Robles-Ortiz, aka Karen Partida, 29, of El Centro
• Azucena Torres, aka Susana Bugarin, 43, of El Centro
• Jose “Chito” Morales, 47, of San Diego
• Jose “Joe” Anthony Diaz, 39, of Brownsville
• Jose Demara Flores, aka Joe Flores, 52, of Brownsville
• Mercedes Gonzales, aka Mercy Diaz, 37, of Brownsville
• Victor Gonzalez, 40, of Brownsville
• Susan Christine Leyva, 39, of Brownsville

https://ktla.com/2019/09/10/el-centro-church-leader-11-others-charged-with-forced-labor-of-captive-homeless-people/

jazz_music says

It's sure not because of dishonesty

Nope. It's because the Democrats have bad ideas. Not every USA citizen (and hopefully not even half of them) want's to give their current and future prosperity away.

But Tulsi!

The plastic is delicious! 😋

They sound mostly Mexican / Hispanic to me. Who let the dogs in?

6rdB says

Can not say for sure if they are tRUMP voters and GOP icons. However, they did rip people off exactly as OLD! TESTAMENT! commands.

All 12 defendants, including the former pastor Victor Gonzalez, were arrested Tuesday in El Centro, San Diego and Brownsville, Texas. They face charges of conspiracy, forced labor, document servitude and benefits fraud.

Officials identified them as:

• Arnoldo Bugarin, 47, of El Centro
• Jose Gaytan, 47, of El Centro
• Sonia Murillo, 51, of El Centro
• Sergio Partida, 32, El Centro
• Ana Karen Robles-Ortiz, aka Karen Partida, 29, of El Centro
• Azucena Torres, aka Susana Bugarin, 43, of El Centro
• Jose “Chito” Morales, 47, of San Diego
• Jose “Joe” Anthony Diaz, 39, of Brownsville
• Jose Demara Flores, aka Joe Flores, 52, of Brownsville
• Mercedes Gonzales, aka Mercy Diaz, 37, of Brownsville
• Victor Gonzalez, 40, of Brownsville
• Susan Christine Leyva, 39, of Brownsville

mell says

They sound mostly Mexican / Hispanic to me. Who let the dogs in?

They are 100% Hispanic. Having said that, Brownsville has been Hispanic since before forever.

WookieMan says

I frankly consider it a handout to the middle class (and yes big corps too) which I can't stand. I'm biased living in IL. I actually have low property taxes somehow, but high income tax. Getting capped at $10K itemizing SALT hurt my tax situation this year 100%. I paid more than previous years. The tax cuts are being funded by limousine liberals for the most part if you truly look at it and think about it.

My income was right in that "sweet" spot where I lost SALT deductions due to AMT before the Trump plan. Under the Trump tax cuts, with much less aggressive AMT schedule, I actually saved money. That's right, a standard deduction of $12k was better deal than $60k of SALT deductions but more aggressive AMT. I actually plugged my 2018 numbers into TurboTax 2017 and saw that those same numbers produced higher taxes in 2017 than in 2018.