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104981   ignoreme   2019 Sep 22, 4:57pm  

If the articles you posted actually had a valid point they wouldn’t need 5000 words of drivel you’d need to wade through to understand. The truth is generally fairly simple. That’s why people don’t like your giant posts of pointless crap that makes you dumber then before you read it.

It starts out with a 20 year old example where the professor chose to not teach a class due to student protests. I don’t see what this has to do with today when professors are routinely fired for suggesting students lighten up about Halloween costumes.

Then I scanned ahead a little to where the article stated that both the left and right are being censored on college campuses, then I stopped reading when it failed to provide an example of leftist groups being censored.

Please provide an example of a leftist group being significantly censored to the extent that conservative groups are on campus otherwise delete this post.
104982   mell   2019 Sep 22, 4:58pm  

Political correctness is the biggest scourge of the 21st century.
104983   Tenpoundbass   2019 Sep 22, 5:14pm  

Everything is fine Jazz, don't worry go back to sleep. We got this!
104984   marcus   2019 Sep 22, 5:15pm  

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I call bullshit on the idea that Haidt, Jordan Peterson, and countless others are wrong. I've heard about it from kids that go off to colleges and see the weird behavior.

You must not have seen the Yale Halloween incident a few years back. The guys wife is guilty of suggesting that perhaps people lighten up just a little about Halloween costume rules. (cultural appropriation)

www.youtube.com/embed/hiMVx2C5_Wg
104985   marcus   2019 Sep 22, 5:18pm  

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Or a much more extreme version was the incident at Evergreen with Brett Weinstein

www.youtube.com/embed/2cMYfxOFBBM

Student: "I'm fearful of having a nuanced opinion."
104986   mostly_reader   2019 Sep 22, 5:19pm  

YOU don't care?!
HEY! There I was, naively thinking that the intent of your antisemitic, anti-republican, getting-in-every-topic, contaminating-every-thread, use-repetition-instead-of-substance propaganda trolling is to make this world a better place.
And then - KABOOM! "I don't care!"
WTF?
104987   ignoreme   2019 Sep 22, 5:37pm  

personal
104988   Bd6r   2019 Sep 22, 9:42pm  

marcus is light years from alt right. So is Bill Maher, who said that Trump won because of political correctness - and here I tend to agree with them.
104989   Ceffer   2019 Sep 22, 10:10pm  

He does have a point. Especially because if Duterte had his druthers, he'd kill Bill for aiding and abetting the CIA cocaine pipeline through Arkansas when he was Guv, and using the Arkansas state police as his own personal Murder Inc. Of course, he had quite a history also of pardoning all of the drug dealers who moved the product.
104990   marcus   2019 Sep 22, 11:09pm  

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Here is the email that the triggered Yale students were reacting to. WHAT THE FUCK ??

Dear Sillimanders:

Nicholas and I have heard from a number of students who were frustrated by the mass email sent to
the student body about appropriate Halloween-wear. I’ve always found Halloween an interesting
embodiment of more general adult worries about young people. As some of you may be aware, I teach
a class on “The Concept of the Problem Child,” and I was speaking with some of my students
yesterday about the ways in which Halloween – traditionally a day of subversion for children and
young people – is also an occasion for adults to exert their control.

When I was young, adults were freaked out by the specter of Halloween candy poisoned by lunatics,
or spiked with razor blades (despite the absence of a single recorded case of such an event). Now,
we’ve grown to fear the sugary candy itself. And this year, we seem afraid that college students are
unable to decide how to dress themselves on Halloween.

I don’t wish to trivialize genuine concerns about cultural and personal representation, and other
challenges to our lived experience in a plural community. I know that many decent people have
proposed guidelines on Halloween costumes from a spirit of avoiding hurt and offense. I laud those
goals, in theory, as most of us do. But in practice, I wonder if we should reflect more transparently, as
a community, on the consequences of an institutional (which is to say: bureaucratic and administrative)
exercise of implied control over college students.

It seems to me that we can have this discussion of costumes on many levels: we can talk about
complex issues of identify, free speech, cultural appropriation, and virtue “signalling.” But I wanted to
share my thoughts with you from a totally different angle, as an educator concerned with the
developmental stages of childhood and young adulthood.

As a former preschool teacher, for example, it is hard for me to give credence to a claim that there is
something objectionably “appropriative” about a blonde-haired child’s wanting to be Mulan for a day.
Pretend play is the foundation of most cognitive tasks, and it seems to me that we want to be in the
business of encouraging the exercise of imagination, not constraining it. I suppose we could agree that
there is a difference between fantasizing about an individual character vs. appropriating a culture,
wholesale, the latter of which could be seen as (tacky)(offensive)(jejeune)(hurtful), take your pick. But,
then, I wonder what is the statute of limitations on dreaming of dressing as Tiana the Frog Princess if
you aren’t a black girl from New Orleans? Is it okay if you are eight, but not 18? I don’t know the
answer to these questions; they seem unanswerable. Or at the least, they put us on slippery terrain
that I, for one, prefer not to cross.

Which is my point. I don’t, actually, trust myself to foist my Halloweenish standards and motives on
others. I can’t defend them anymore than you could defend yours. Why do we dress up on Halloween,
anyway? Should we start explaining that too? I’ve always been a good mimic and I enjoy accents. I
love to travel, too, and have been to every continent but Antarctica. When I lived in Bangladesh, I
bought a sari because it was beautiful, even though I looked stupid in it and never wore it once. Am I
fetishizing and appropriating others’ cultural experiences? Probably. But I really, really like them too.

Even if we could agree on how to avoid offense – and I’ll note that no one around campus seems
overly concerned about the offense taken by religiously conservative folks to skin-revealing costumes
– I wonder, and I am not trying to be provocative: Is there no room anymore for a child or young
person to be a little bit obnoxious… a little bit inappropriate or provocative or, yes, offensive? American
universities were once a safe space not only for maturation but also for a certain regressive, or even
transgressive, experience; increasingly, it seems, they have become places of censure and prohibition.
And the censure and prohibition come from above, not from yourselves! Are we all okay with this
transfer of power? Have we lost faith in young people's capacity – in your capacity - to exercise selfcensure,
through social norming, and also in your capacity to ignore or reject things that trouble you?
We tend to view this shift from individual to institutional agency as a tradeoff between libertarian vs.
liberal values (“liberal” in the American, not European sense of the word).

Nicholas says, if you don’t like a costume someone is wearing, look away, or tell them you are
offended. Talk to each other. Free speech and the ability to tolerate offence are the hallmarks of a free
and open society.

But – again, speaking as a child development specialist – I think there might be something missing in
our discourse about the exercise of free speech (including how we dress ourselves) on campus, and it
is this: What does this debate about Halloween costumes say about our view of young adults, of their
strength and judgment?

In other words: Whose business is it to control the forms of costumes of young people? It's not mine, I
know that.

Happy Halloween.
104991   marcus   2019 Sep 22, 11:12pm  

Another video of wacked out teenagers at Yale, reacting to that email

www.youtube.com/embed/9IEFD_JVYd0
104993   Booger   2019 Sep 23, 5:45am  

Crybaby:
104994   marcus   2019 Sep 23, 7:22am  

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Yeah, and let's not forget the pedophile ring they ran out of a pizza parlor in DC.

Amazing the stuff they can make up and succeed in selling, when the policies and performance in office aren't on balance negative enough.
104995   Shaman   2019 Sep 23, 7:26am  

No, the pedo ring was run by Jeffrey Epstein and it wasn’t in a pizza parlor. Still, the Clintons were regular patrons. Awful people. Aren’t you glad that we conservative voters saved you from having a Ma Clinton POTUS?
Poor Democrats. Always insisting that reality is something other than it is, Black is white, up is down, the door is a jar, the crosswalk is wherever we say it is. We always have to save them from their own stupid ideas before they try to turn them into reality and get run over by the retard bus.
104996   Bd6r   2019 Sep 23, 10:24am  

Trump is undoubtedly a fucking cunt
Problem is that his opponent was a fucking cunt cubed
104997   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Sep 23, 11:03am  

That's quite an incoherent whine from the CollegeHipHop website.
104998   Hircus   2019 Sep 23, 11:10am  

What's wrong with ProfessorWatchList.org ? It's a website that documents the people who say certain things and behave in certain ways.

Amazing. These jazzy leftists not only want to censure the speech that they don't like, but they also want to censure people who quote and document their very own words!

"You aren't allowed to say that!"
"You aren't allowed to document that I said that!"

Looks like a good site btw:


https://professorwatchlist.org/index.php/about-us says


Professor Watchlist is a project of Turning Point USA.

The mission of Professor Watchlist is to expose and document college professors who discriminate against conservative students and advance leftist propaganda in the classroom.

This website is an aggregated list of pre-existing news stories that were published by a variety of news organizations throughout the past few years. While we accept tips for new additions on our website, we only publish profiles on incidents that have already been reported somewhere else. TPUSA will continue to fight for free speech and the right for​​ professors to say whatever they wish​;​ however students, parents, and alumni deserve to know the specific incidents and names of professors that advance a radical agenda in lecture halls.
104999   Ceffer   2019 Sep 23, 11:15am  

A veritable minefield of Progressive trip wires and slogans. Take away the sloganeering, and there's isn't even a modicum of debased reasoning left.

'Join the Cult of Victimization, and get your gold stars and free shit!"
105000   Bd6r   2019 Sep 23, 11:20am  

I actually agree 100% that rich private colleges such as Harvard fuel inequality. Megarich can buy their kids into there, where they will be passed no matter how stoopid they are (see GWBush and Yale). In these colleges they will network with other rich and powerful to later screw over everyone else.
The idea that thses colleges foster right wing beliefs though is not supported by facts. Ms Sotomayer and Obama anyone...
105001   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Sep 23, 11:24am  

Thanks Jazz and Hircus! ProfessorWatchList.org is a great website.
105002   Onvacation   2019 Sep 23, 11:46am  

jazz_music says
And it serves the neoliberal goal of dumbing America down into more economically hamstrung chattel.

At least they have iPhones and aren't starving.
105003   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2019 Sep 23, 11:57am  

Good way to find out which campuses have crazy prodessors.

Because it says a lot about school culture.
105004   Ceffer   2019 Sep 23, 12:20pm  

6rdB says
I actually agree 100% that rich private colleges such as Harvard fuel inequality.


The rich classes do need a properly versed butler class of one percenters but sub .01 percenters to attend to their many bureaucratic needs and to treat their various maladies. That's why so many of the peasants are let in the Ivies, while the ensconced dynastic RichFucks stick to their private clubs, psychopath calling cards and high signs.
105005   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Sep 23, 12:25pm  

jazz_music says
And it serves the neoliberal goal of dumbing America down into more economically hamstrung chattel.


Did you look at Sarah Giordano's profile?

She seeks to "Challenge Science" by showing it's Racist and Colonialist origins.

Yeah,that's dumbing down all right. For the Social Justice Revolution.
105006   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Sep 23, 12:26pm  

This is one of the rare occasions I might support the nationalization of some of the Ivy Leagues on grounds of meritocracy, or at least regulating that 85% of their intake be completely academic merit (not sports, not alumni, not race).
105007   fdhfoiehfeoi   2019 Sep 23, 1:37pm  

Not in Arizona. Had very average temps, plus coolest June in recent memory.

GW, why do you hate me!?
105008   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Sep 23, 2:07pm  

Skiing in Tahoe in July this year. Yep, really warm here too!

One fun thing is to add Hell Michigan to your Weather App tracking list. Then when someone says "it's hotter than Hell around here" you can reply with "hold on, let me check ... nope! Hell is only 84 degrees right now, see!" And in the winter time if someone says "... when Hell freezes over" you can check and reply with "hold on, let me check ... actually, Hell is frozen over right at this moment!"

Great times!
105009   Onvacation   2019 Sep 23, 2:10pm  

2019 promises to be colder than 2018 which was colder than 2017 which was colder than 2016 which was hotter than 2015 by .004 degrees.

Looks like the global temperature peaked a couple of years ago.
105010   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Sep 23, 2:11pm  

I think HEYYOU accidentally brought up a useful point: Much of the world's pollution is caused by a small number of people. Carbon emissions might not be a good example, but think about other types of air pollution... that one person with an old 2-stroke leaf blower puts more of many pollutants into the air in a single 15 minute blow than my car commuting for a week. That's one argument against California's ever-more-strict car requirements; we're at the point of negligible returns and it would be far better to concentrate on a few gross polluters.
105011   Booger   2019 Sep 23, 2:13pm  

Still enjoying beach weather in the Northeast! I hope that it's warm enough to go some more in October.
105012   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Sep 23, 2:18pm  

I think many Republicans would love to abolish FEMA. Just as Ron Paul suggested, it's no business of the federal government to bail out bad behavior; it only encourages more.

That said, if you did a Democrat -vs- Republican head count you'd see that, by far and away, the Democrats get a lot more FEMA relieve than Republicans. We're still subsidizing Katrina-ravaged New Orleans.
105013   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Sep 23, 2:42pm  

Tim Aurora says
Any report brought by MSM is media's fault as if their Job is to support Trump. Ironically it the Republican media stooges like Fox new and Sean Hannity lead the way

The issue is when MSM goes crazy over some completely unsubstantiated story. Sean Hannity basically just points out that the story is unsubstantiated. A few days later, when the unsubstantiated story turns out to be baseless, Hannity then points out that the story (now completely missing in the MSM) was bogus.

Lather, rinse, repeat.
105014   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Sep 23, 2:46pm  

Tim Aurora says
2. A President can do whatever he wants
Argument is shifted from right and wrong to President has the right to do so


The "Repubs, Fox, etc." usually cite The Constitution. I know... old document written by dead white men. (They weren't dead when the wrote it, but they are dead now. Just wanted to clarify!)

And, after all, The Constitution was written by white people for the benefit of white people. And that's why, ummm..., that's why Koreans and Jews are so successful in the USA. Yeah, that's it.
105015   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Sep 23, 2:48pm  

Tim Aurora says
3. It is the deep state
Any allegations stemming from FBI, CIA is a deep state who are staging a coup against the president

That appears to be accurate.
105016   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Sep 23, 3:10pm  

HEYYOU says
SunnyvaleCA says
That said, if you did a Democrat -vs- Republican head count you'd see that, by far and away, the Democrats get a lot more FEMA relieve than Republicans. We're still subsidizing Katrina-ravaged New Orleans.


Link to back that up?

That's a tricky one, but I'm willing to support killing FEMA just on a hunch. :-)

Wouldn't you agree that most of hurricane relief goes to "large costal cities," which are almost exclusively liberal "paradises"? Which cities make the news after Hurricanes? Does New Orleans ring a bell? Even Houston, which received major FEMA aid recently, has a large (and increasing) democratic base.

Note that I'm referring to FEMA support here, not all the farm (and other) subsidies.

On a side note, I'd be for getting rid of the farm and other subsidies as well.
105017   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Sep 23, 3:20pm  

Hm... it does seem like those in "tornado alley" get a lot of FEMA $$$. Maybe there are a large number of small incidents (small compared to a category-5 hurricane — obviously not small to you if your house is demolished). Those small incidents don't really make the news cycle but they add up over time.
105018   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Sep 23, 4:03pm  

There is no global warming. Bloomberg is just another fake alarmist lately, dude should go back to banning pepsi or something, worked out so well for him.
105019   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Sep 23, 4:11pm  

Let me compare.

Most universities are ran by liberals to a point where social studies became utter garbage instead of education.
But a single website probably built by 2 guys in their garage is a problem.

We are comparing 100000 vs 2, seems kind of one sided.

I've seen those videos of liberals protesting, they did it in many universities, torn down many lectures. Those Jordan Peterson videos do show that off pretty well, where those nice lefties show up to disrupt everything. And there are many others, Ben Shapiro needed security guards to not get killed on one campus. Talk about liberals destroying education.
105020   Onvacation   2019 Sep 23, 6:40pm  

Tim Aurora says
Any allegations stemming from FBI, CIA is a deep state who are staging a coup against the president

With the MSM support.

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