patrick.net

"This also dissuades men from having children out of wedlock."

In this case, it doesn't. Women make that decision. Will read the link... thanks.

Will there be orders for the Secret Service to pepper Melania's Cuban Gardner Lotharios with Uzi spray on sight?

They might think Trump Cunt Punch is a drink.

krc says

That is frankly why I am pro-life. If abortion was outlawed, then one sex would not have this much control over the other. Right now we let women have the choice to enslave a biological father. Of course - the usual response is "just don't have sex". If abortion would outlawed, I would agree: he should be paying instead of the taxpayer.

So under your logic, a woman who is strongly pro-life must choose to either abort her child or have the child but not get any help from the man who helped put her in that position? Makes no sense.

There's a kid and the kid needs to be taken care of. If the guy doesn't pay child support then the mom goes on welfare and how's that fair the the taxpayer? We certainly had nothing to do with the problem.

Half the people in this thread sound like bitter dads tired of having to pony up for child support. I get that there are some issues with the system, like that custody always defaults to the woman, but boo hoo, take care of your fucking kids.

Quigley says

If anyone had any questions about why tech workers shouldn’t vote Democrat anymore... a good reason is that they want to import Chindians to do your jobs!

Tech workers coming from CA have turned Austin bright blue.

6rdB says

Quigley says

If anyone had any questions about why tech workers shouldn’t vote Democrat anymore... a good reason is that they want to import Chindians to do your jobs!

Tech workers coming from CA have turned Austin bright blue.

#fuckingmorons

truthhurts says

some issues

"Some issues"

hahahahahahahaha

He said "Some issues!"...

blahahahahahahahahahahaha...

I recall a recent under statement from somebody else recently: "Some people did something"

"If the guy doesn't pay child support then the mom goes on welfare and how's that fair the the taxpayer?"

Yes. And that is a big part of the problem. That state is serving as the lender of last resort, essentially. What if there was not this welfare backstop? I bet the illegitimacy rate would decrease - substantially! And lets make no bones about it. Women now are perfectly aware of their power here: the actual abortion rate has dropped dramatically because women have various forms of birth control and they are deciding when to have the child - regardless of "who" it is with. Look at the abortion rates for the past 20 years - massive decline. Illegitimate children are the way that baby mamas can make it in this world when they see that their own independent future looks bleak. Why should a man support a child that he had no interest in having?

krc says

Why should a man support a child that he had no interest in having?

Because it's the moral thing to do.

krc says

Illegitimate children are the way that baby mamas can make it in this world when they see that their own independent future looks bleak.

Maybe so, but this is even more reason why you should be careful where you are sticking it.

I don't know why I need to explain biology to you, but there's no such thing as an illegitimate child. You stuck your penis voluntarily into a vagina and made a baby, it really happened, it's legit. Now it needs to be taken care of. In a perfect world, you wouldn't need court mandated child support because both parents would work together and figure out a way to pay for it all. But some don't, and so there is a system in place to enforce it and some people are taking advantage of that system and men get screwed.

But just because it's a bad system doesn't take away your responsibility. You can't just say "Oh, well the child support system is unfair so I'm not going to be a responsible adult and pay for my kid".

The Best part will be when he invites Putin.

The Rotten son's of bitches Global Punks invited Iran to the last G7 after kicking Russia out. And if you all remember, and don't have your heads shoved so far up Jeff Bezos and Zucker's Ass, will remember Trump vowed to invite Putin to the next one, since the Globalist saw fit to invite Iran. Who at the time during that week was threatening America and our President.

It's going to be glorious, the crying will hurt our ears.

AF, why do you hate CAPITALISM! and ENTREPRENEURSHIP???

"Oh, well the child support system is unfair so I'm not going to be a responsible adult and pay for my kid".

Well, even if a biological father wanted to walk away, they can't. So not sure of the argument here. The state is definitely enforcing child support even with jail time, which also makes zero sense. And, when it is convenient the state will also repudiates a biological father's right as well. For example, if a married wife has a child from an affair, if the married father accepts that child, then most states will terminate the biological father's rights.

I am not questioning the morality here. Yes - you fathered a child, I think you should support it. But, to your point, that is a moral question only. If you look at this from a constitutional protection issue, then this is completely unfair. If you believe it is fair that a woman who "decides" to have a child should be entitled to entrap an unmarried father, then we disagree. Hopefully, you would then agree that the most logical course would be to outlaw abortion so that one sex doesn't have this power over the other. Then, yes, you engage in sex you run a risk with a known consequence and BOTH parties bear that responsibility.

I guess if it is a "bad system" you just put up with it.... Illegitimate children are children born out of wedlock. So - there are "illegitimate" children though it is not a popular word to use anymore as it stigmatizes the biological parents. And we can't have that can we? Only the man needs to bear the social condemnation - as we see by most responses to the original post. No one seems to even question her integrity/ responsibility for birth control / etc... I know if my daughter "got pregnant" without being married, I would tell her it is her decision and she is responsible. If the "boyfriend" wants to chip in, GREAT! But if not, she should deal with it herself and be prepared to support the child on her own.

Found this interesting article. I guess I am interested in this subject since it seems that only the man bears the ridicule when a baby mama pops out of the woodwork. Whether it is Biden's son, a famous football player, actor, etc... there is never social condemnation against the woman! I always find that interesting and just another manifestation of the matriarchy at work. :)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-04/financial-abortion-men-opt-out-parenthood/8049576

Cool.

"State Department Concludes Clinton Email Review Says It Found Nearly 600 Security Violations"

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1248894/pg1

Double Triple Agent IHLLary pleaded ignorance! Hilarious.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

I don't! I was just hoping that Trump would turn the golf course into a hunting range filled with RAPEFUGEE! children whom he'd encourage the G7 delegates to shoot with high powered rifles at a premium for their entertainment!

Why not, hire this man! Pretty much every day a rapefugee humiliates an autochthonous resident, like recently in the Netherlands where they made a white dutch guy strip at gunpoint. Of course this video was censored on twatter shortly after it was posted. Many rapefugees behave utterly atrocious and shouldn't be admitted into a civilized country in the first place.

Love those cajones! I hope she doesn't get suicided - at least she knows how to defend herself with a weapon as well.

Using the usual 180 degree flip LibbyFuck propaganda ploy, this means that IHLlary is admitting to being a Russian agent.

If I pretend to have State secrets that the Russians want, can I fool Tulsi into honey trapping me?

Hillary has to be the worse candidate in the last 100+ years.

Being Libertarian, I had just finished two excellent articles on Reason saying petty much the same.

https://reason.com/2019/10/18/hillary-clinton-tulsi-gabbard-donald-trump-russia/

https://reason.com/2016/11/20/america-called-bullshit-on-saint-hillary/

discovered nearly 600 security incidents that violated agency policy

What is left unsaid is how many emails imply a ton of other potential violations. It's not like Hillary wanted to operate private server because she intended to commit security violations; that was just a byproduct of a much larger agenda.

How many emails imply:
• non-profit organization fraud
• campaign finance
• meddling in elections (foreign and domestic)
• racketeering
• quid pro Joe quo violations
• tax fraud
• lobbying fraud
• all sorts of process violations (Podesta acting as foreign lobbyist when not being registered as a foreign lobbyist, for example)

OccasionalCortex says

How can it violate the emoluments clause if he isn't charging for profit?

Ha ha, the emoluments clause says nothing about profit, this is a clear violation. But for the sake of conversation if the hotel normally is about 40 % occupied (according to their records) in June, and it suddenly is 100% occupied even at a steep discount Trump is better off. And there won't be a steep discount. But really at this point who cares. The cult will make excuses and everybody else knows he is grifter.

I live in California, so my presidential vote doesn't really count anyway. So... join me in a write-in campaign for Tulsi next November 3rd!

I believe we have open primaries in California so everyone can vote for her probably.

Checked a few of the political forums that I use to check out before they turned full libtard. I can't even believe they are jumping on the npc meme bs Hilary is right crap. This is all about the industrial military complex and there cronies not liking her antiwar stance.

And just like that Democrats went from Trump Derangement Syndrome to Tulsi Derangment Syndrome lol. I guess we can keep the acronym still.

I don't like her for her domestic stance but to come out against her for being anti war is disgusting and calling her a Russian tool is insane. Fuck the democrats.

Does this mean Tulsi will commit suicide by being impaled in the back by a knobby strap on?

So, IHLlary was just too lazy to stagger to her dead drops.

Ceffer says

Does this mean Tulsi will commit suicide by being impaled in the back by a knobby strap on?

I hate to admit, but provided that your prediction omits the usual knobby strap on mentions, you might be right. Remember how Patnet predicted Epstein suicide...
As a bare minimum, Tulsi will have trouble being re-elected, or she will be redistricted out of her seat. Remember how the R's retired Ron Paul...

Lol, that's me asking for tulsi's hand :)

Holy shit, I think I am in love with Tulsi once again.

Annnd she dead

OccasionalCortex says

Office of Profit or Trust und

Ok but that doesn't have to do with Trump profiting from an emolument. It means he gets a salary and that is all he is entitled to recieve for his position. No gifts or grifts.

Democrats project everything they do onto others they have to be KGB. They act like we are at the peak of the cold war with Russians around every corner Putin must be laughing about it every day.

TULSI! TULSI!

They have to pick some enemy, and the Russians are a convenient distraction from the unspoken truth that Saudi Arabia influences our politicians and suppresses negative media about themselves through the sheer gravitational force of trillions of petro-dollars.

No light or truth can escape from such immense gravitational forces. It's a black hole for truth.

Tulsi somehow has the balls to speak about it, in spite of the risk, and the fact that she technically has no balls:



If there's one thing about Trump I really cannot stand, it's his unquestioning support for the Saudi fucks who killed thousands of Americans on 9/11 and got away with it.

How was I to know, she was with the Russians too?
Crazy time line. At face value, these people appear to be accusing an actively serving reservist of treason?!
www.youtube.com/embed/sgRfxTG1Rg8?t=40

Patrick says

Holy shit, I think I am in love with Tulsi once again.

Shes mine, dick