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Well tell them to stop chanting "Death to America!"

We don't respond well to flattery.

Don't you get it, when the poor get's too pissed the government just starts a war and culls 70% of them, just like animal management on the farm.

What about old polls?

HEYYOU is in full loneliness basement mode today. Dude, go take a walk and smell the flowers.

The justification of extreme wealth is an essential component of the stability of the system.

The American fairy tale is that, say, Bill Gates somehow deserved to be the richest guy on earth. In reality, he got the contract to supply DOS to IBM PC's through his mother's connections and then systematically used that operating system monopoly to prevent the free market from working. He gave away software to kill Netscape, Lotus 123, Wordstar, and on and on, until he owned all of it. He was also able to use control over the operating system to prevent those programs from working as well as his own clones.

Bill Gates set all of technology back by at least one decade, maybe two, by killing off innovative competitors in that same manner. In the end, no VC would fund anything that competed with Windows.

There are two ways to achieve wealth:

1. create something useful better or cheaper than competitors in a free market
2. prevent the free market from working and simply extract "economic rent" at the expense of the whole economy

HEYYOU says

And Trump supporters are scum.

@HEYYOU Do you really think that such a comment helps anything or anyone? Or does it just deepen divisions?

Can you pretend you yourself support Trump for a moment and clearly articulate the reasons why in a non-inflammatory way? It's a useful exercise.

Patrick says

@HEYYOU Do you really think that such a comment helps anything or anyone? Or does it just deepen divisions?

Seriously. The true aim of the elite, division. Without it, the people would wake up and start working together to actually solve problems and elect capable leaders.

Leftists are scum!

See how easy that was to just turn that around and not have anything valuable to say?

The American fairy tale is that, say, Bill Gates somehow deserved to be the richest guy on earth. In reality, he got the contract to supply DOS to IBM PC's through his mother's connections and then systematically used that operating system monopoly to prevent the free market from working. He gave away software to kill Netscape, Lotus 123, Wordstar, and on and on, until he owned all of it. He was also able to use control over the operating system to prevent those programs from working as well as his own clones.

To be fair, he really did it by price. Remember, Mac and Amiga were strong competitors that Gates did not control. When Window 3.1 came out, Mac and Amiga prices fell by over half. The success of Windows was because it was much cheaper and "good enough." Windows also killed Silicon Graphics by being able to do similar work at a tenth of the cost.

People are viewing Patrick.net but not registered or signed in.

Yes, but they usually just go away and don't register. So I should probably remove that.

Ironically, there are also a zillion fake registrations lately, all of them with 10-character lowercase names. They don't seem to do anything except register. There have been hundreds in the last few days.

OK, lurker count removed from page header.

Patrick says

Ironically, there are also a zillion fake registrations lately, all of them with 10-character lowercase names.

"Friends of Jazz Deep State Progressive Propaganda Carpet Bombing Bots"?

HEYYOU says

I'm sick of mowing.

Then tell the wife to get the pubes waxed.

And yet the economy is doing extremely well, and we haven't been dragged into any new wars.

Do you really care about his sex life all that much?

I'll take peace and prosperity. Works for me.

Of course they are a contributor

There is no such thing as "housing crisis". Plenty of affordable housing is this country.
Can't afford to buy in Atherton? Buy in San Ramon. Can't afford San Ramon - move to Stockton. Or Atlanta. Or Boise. Can't afford Boise - move to Detroit or Baltimore. Where is the fucking "crisis"? We used to be the country of highly mobile optimistic people. Are we turning into a nation of whiny bitches sitting on their asses and moaning about "crisis this" or "unaffordability that"?

There is no such thing as "housing crisis". Plenty of affordable housing is this country.
Can't afford to buy in Atherton? Buy in San Ramon. Can't afford San Ramon - move to Stockton. Or Atlanta. Or Boise. Can't afford Boise - move to Detroit or Baltimore. Where is the fucking "crisis"? We used to be the country of highly mobile optimistic people. Are we turning into a nation of whiny bitches sitting on their asses and moaning about "crisis this" or "unaffordability that"?

There is no such thing as "housing crisis". Plenty of affordable housing is this country.
Can't afford to buy in Atherton? Buy in San Ramon. Can't afford San Ramon - move to Stockton. Or Atlanta. Or Boise. Can't afford Boise - move to Detroit or Baltimore. Where is the fucking "crisis"? We used to be the country of highly mobile optimistic people. Are we turning into a nation of whiny bitches sitting on their asses and moaning about "crisis this" or "unaffordability that"?

jazz_music says

Would you ridicule some asshole that has the gaul to lie to your face like you are some moron that doesn’t know any better?

I would first try to help that person understand.

So, what is the biggest (not hyperbole or bragging) baddest, most heinous and harmful lie our current president has ever told?

JerryR says

The leaders of the free world are the only people who should be able to lie. Home or abroad; they must be permitted to lie for the good of the country.

That boat sailed when Hillary lost.

I know I repeat myself, but
Onvacation says

So, what is the biggest (not hyperbole or bragging) baddest, most heinous and harmful lie our current president has ever told?

HEYYOU says

Trump is a god compared to D & R voters.

To be fair, those fringe democratic website don't really represent America. They show just mentally ill leftist activists who have major fucking mental problems.

OrangeManBad in an Orange prison jumpsuit. The question is, WILL THEY MATCH? They'll issue Trump a drool bucket and tell him his cell is a waiting area at Mar-A-Lago! The Progressives and Globalist Royals will be free to club the just kneeling economy into a Venezuelan multi cultural nightmare!

Once again, the vote will fail. Trump will crow. The TDS afflicted will sky scream.
Life will go on.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

TUESDAY, TRUMP IS GOING TO GET A PUNCH IN HIS CUNT!

Heard that before twice, nothing happened. Likely nothing will happen now as well. And even worse for those that hate tRUMP - D's are so incompetent that they are likely to lose election in 2020 as well, just like they picked in 2016 the only person in Universe who could lose to tRUMP.

Shaman says

The TDS afflicted will sky scream.

It's what they do.

I Swallowed a Red Pill says

Some people are always blaming everyone else for their failures.

If this was an intended tactic, would you still feel the same way? Just an honest question.

Kudos to Jazz, I actually found this one funny. It's rare, but gotta give credit when/where it's due.

From the above post (28), looks like all you got is hyperbole and severely biased opinion.

JerryR says

Trump is forever attacking the fairness of any inquiry that isn't stacked in his favor. Former Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russia's meddling in the 2016

There are only two outcomes the Coup gets prosecuted, ideally hanged by the neck until they shit their pants brown.
Or the hard way.

These Democrats will never RULE over the American spirit ever again. These are Commie bastards no less deserving of Che' Guevara's fate.
You better pray tonight, the good guys in Washington prevails, you don't want the other way. That way everybody gets to play. Those black masks and Antifa shirts wont be enough to protect them.

I Swallowed a Red Pill says

Do you mean that Trump might be intentionally blaming everyone for all of his failures so that people think he is a whiny bitch?

Has any President, Senator, or Governor ever in our 200+ year history been under investigation for the entire length of their first term? Without any evidence of wrongdoing or criminality? Just rumor and speculation?
Trump has plenty to bitch about. This is the biggest witch hunt ever. You Leftist cunts have been trying to impeach him since he won the election. Suck a fat one!

I Swallowed a Red Pill says

Do you mean that people are intentionally treating Trump unfairly so he seems like a whiny bitch? I don't think that is remotely close to what is happening.

Did you spit out the pill?

Shaman says

Trump has plenty to bitch about. This is the biggest witch hunt ever. You Leftist cunts have been trying to impeach him since he won the election. Suck a fat one!

But it's just not fair...It was her turn..

komputodo says

Did you spit out the pill?

I think he tried to take it anally and shat it out instead.

I Swallowed a Red Pill says

What do you mean?
Do you mean that Trump might be intentionally blaming everyone for all of his failures so that people think he is a whiny bitch?
Do you mean that people are intentionally treating Trump unfairly so he seems like a whiny bitch? I don't think that is remotely close to what is happening.

You know what I was asking... Is he doing this intentionally to piss people (to make the point) like you off? This is not meant as an insult, but when you bitch about Trump, you realize you're automatically becoming the whiney bitch, right? I'm not calling you that, just stating what I meant about Trump doing what he does intentionally. Does that make more sense?

Trump doesn't care what people call him. And anytime he "acts" like he cares what someone says, it's all a game. It's a specific personality trait he has. This isn't in defense or support of Trump, this is the reality that soooooo many people don't understand or refuse to understand about him.

I Swallowed a Red Pill says

Maybe Trump has been the most investigated because he is the most corrupt and most obstructionist.

Yet - you can't point to a single crime after all these congressional and Mueller investigations.

Both the Nixon and Clinton impeachments started with actual crimes.

If "Trump is the most corrupt" - surely you can point to a single crime that was successfully prosecuted - right?

And the Manafort shit doesn't count as he got caught for stuff he was doing before he got involved with the Trump campaign. The Flynn shit is bogus too and will likely get thrown out after the IG and Durham reports come out. Closest thing you have is Cohen covering up a porn star payment.

Now compare that to the Clinton Foundation racket that pulled in hundreds of millions in bribes to gain access to US power.

I Swallowed a Red Pill says

Maybe Trump has been the most investigated because he is the most corrupt and most obstructionist. The Clintons have probably been investigated more, but Trump will catch up if he has a 2nd term.

Republicans (not Dems) started the Mueller investigation, because there was plenty of evidence that it needed to happen. Trump obstructed it and would not testify, so it took longer than it needed to. When Mueller found that there was not enough evidence to charge on conspiracy (not the same as no evidence!), the Dems said OK. We will accept that and move on. The next day, Trump was pressuring Ukraine. There is no witch hunt. That's just Trump propaganda, because he didn't want to testify, and wants to prevent everyone around him from testifying.
McGahn was ordered by a court to testify. By the time it gets to the SC, the election will be over, but the obstruction is legendary.

Has there ever been a presidency in 200+ years that defied subpoenas like Trump?

Let’s destroy your arguments point by fucking point.
1)Has Trump been most investigated because he’s the most corrupt? Nope! You’d need some evidence of corruption, some criminal acts, some fucking wrongdoing that is against the fucking law! And after three years you’ve got NOTHING! Least corrupt POTUS ever!
2)A few Republican Never Trumpers crossed the aisle to start the investigation, but it was mostly Democrats as usual. What does it matter? The investigation found nothing. Nothing!
3)When Mueller found nothing, Democrats did NOT say ok let’s move on. Nope, they dragged the senile old man in for a deposition in front of Congress, after they spent weeks quibbling about whether they were getting to see everything relevant on the report!

You probably got all of this bad info from the legacy media and think it makes you “informed.” Geez amateurs!

I Swallowed a Red Pill says

Trump using the power of the presidency to further a personal agenda (on the call and otherwise) is bribery and definitely a crime of high office.

Everyone has heard the call - and most normal people don't care - let alone think it is a crime.

Sooooooo...........if this is the main evidence to claim that Trump is the "most corrupt" president in our history?

If so, you have absolutely nothing.