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James Carville says:

We have candidates on the debate stage talking about open borders and decriminalizing illegal immigration. They’re talking about doing away with nuclear energy and fracking. You’ve got Bernie Sanders talking about letting criminals and terrorists vote from jail cells.

He forgot to mention the phony impeachment that was started before Trump even took office.....

Tenpoundbass says

Patrick says

I do wish Tulsi were still in it. Is she?

She got zero votes in the Iowa circus.

Too much truth-telling about Saudi Arabia.

Just got a message from Tulsi's campaign (I donated $5) they need more donations to "win big in New Hampshire." She could give Trump a run for the money but the intelligence-political-media-militairy-industrial complex would never let her win.

She's still in it but she's not going to win it.

Twice, trice, as long as it takes. It’s a power play. And will only stop when some rich fucks start getting shot.

joshuatrio says

I would not be surprised if the Dems tri d to impeach twice.

We can have the trinkets made in Vietnam.

joshuatrio says

I would not be surprised if the Dems tri d to impeach twice.

Oh, yes, please, let's impeach twice. Before the Election. Surely this tactic will help them?
Trump can campaign hard while his so-called opponents have to sit in a kangaroo court. Great tactic.

Somebody mixed up road stripe paint with the orange pancake makeup. What a prankster. Was it Vindman?

Orange is the new black

If you wake up this angry, you won’t make it till the evening man. Happiness is a choice my friend.

Tim Aurora says

Clinton's impeachment were for having sex outside marriage.

Actually it was for lying to Congress you damn millennial.
And they’ve been trying to impeach Trump since he was elected. That’s a fucking fact. And it had nothing to do with any action he took. It was because he wasn’t one of their chosen finalists for the office.
Time to get a clue, Timmy
When you think you’re smarter than everyone else, you’re not. Just keep that rule in mind.

It was a commie invasion thanks for the correction.

This was an attempted coup for power. Treason. I demand those who orchestrated it be tried for treason and executed upon conviction!

HEYYOU says

Actually I'm not mad,just trolling

I stand corrected. Glad you are ok.

Calling Impeachment a ‘Coup’ Hurts America

No, attempting a coup hurts America.

It was an organized Democrat effort to remove Trump from office since January 2017.

From Valerie Plame's old cubicle at Langley, Eric Anthony Ciaramella worked as a liason between Lt Col Vindman, etc. and Schiff's staff.

Ciaramella organized the Executive branch members who wanted to see Trump removed from office. He acted as the conduit to help direct them to Schiff's staff.

The are other Democrat operatives like Alexandra Chulupa that may have assisted with this besides Schiff's staff, Eric Anthony Ciaramella, Lt Col Vindman, etc.

One thing that caught my attention was in Lt Col Vindman's written testimony. He wrote that President Trump "undermined US foreign policy".

I suspect Schiff's staff wrote that and it subconsciously shows how they viewed the career bureaucracy elements at State Department, NSC, etc. as creating and maintaining US foreign policy.

The President cannot "undermine US foreign policy" since he sets his "US foreign policy". He cannot undermine his own policy even if he changes it as his own discretion at any time.

Senator Lindsey Graham wants to find out how all this originated and transpired. He wants to know who initiated the complaint, why the initiated it, who they communicated with, etc.

I read that Lt Col Vindman's superior gave him a poor evaluation because he did not follow the chain of command. He did not notify his superiors about his concerns, and went directly to Congressman Schiff's staff about his concerns (via Eric Anthony Ciaramella ?).

Lt Col Vindman stated he communicated with NSC chief counsel John Eisenberg. Eisenberg told him to not tell anyone else about his concerns.

However, Schiff's staff was told of Vindman and they subpoened him. That means Vindman notified someone else despite Eisenberg's instruction. Vindman notified Eric Anthony Ciaramella who self-identified as the whistleblower with "second hand knowledge" of Trump's phone call. Ciaramella provided Vindman as his source to Schiff's staff.

Because of this reprimand from his superior, Lt Col Vindman was removed from his NSC position.

TrumpingTits says

Clinton's impeachment were for having sex outside marriage.

No, it was for Bill Clinton committing perjury. Clinton was impeached for lying under oath and obstructing justice to cover up an Oval Office affair with Monica Lewinsky, an intern.

But yes he lied above having an affair with Monica Lewinsky. Below link is the video where he lies under oath about having an affair with Monica Lewinsky. If you go to around 3:20 into the video, Bill Clinton states he never has had sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky or an affair with her.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/president-clinton-deposed-paula-jones-case-part-60300741

I bet 1 in 5 households is 1. Welfare queen 2. Illegal alien family.

Our government created both problems.

I know a lot of people who should be rich and are not; having money is first a decision, then an action to get it.

Most people don’t make the decision and like spending more than saving.

Let em eat cake.

I'd like to see the racial composition of this one on three.

Increase taxes
Bring illegals
Kill your children
Accept gays

That should fix all your problems. Your problem isn’t poverty, your problem is not being tolerant enough of shit that kills you. Accept your liberal masters, and all will be well.

Hey You, you are a lying dog-faced pony soldier !

In a way the Dems informally practice a social credit score system employed by left wing authoritarian regimes like China and Venezuela.

They use bullying and intimidation tactics like public shaming.

Look at how they called for a boycott of Vince Vaughn movies because he shook the hand of President Trump while attending the LSU-Clemson football game.

Look at how they shouted at the female secretary of the US Department of Homeland Security in a Washington DC restaurant.

Look at how they used their sychophants in the mainstream media to target White House officials like Stephen Miller.

AD says

left wing authoritarian

Impeachment

"was the stuff of genuine authoritarianism"

This is why he likes Dostoevsky and religion so much.

CIA probably has all its patsies and scenarios lined up for Trump's assassination already, with a strike group brainstorming opportunities.

A gray, anonymous bureaucrat will emerge from the ranks to have a ponderous sit down with Pence to give him the score if he wants to survive.

Medical care will only be available after seniors have lost $10,000. apiece a year in Trump casinos.

Good!

Medicare Part D, introduced by our Compassionate Friend of Big Pharma G W Shrub, I believe, is one of the reasons why budget deficit went parabolic.
Payoffs for Big Pharma! WIN-WIN again!

Good!

Was tRUMP President on Sept 3, 2016?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dakota_Access_Pipeline_protests

On September 3, 2016, during Labor Day weekend, the Dakota Access Pipeline brought in a private security firm when the company used bulldozers to dig up part of the pipeline route that contained possible Native graves and burial artifacts; it was subject to a pending injunction motion. The bulldozers arrived within a day after the tribe filed legal action.[58] Energy Transfer bulldozers cut a two-mile (3200 m) long, 150-foot (45 m) wide path through the contested area.[59][60]

When unarmed protesters crossed the perimeter fence to stop the bulldozers, the guards used pepper spray and guard dogs to attack. At least six protesters were treated for dog bites, and an estimated 30 were pepper-sprayed before the guards and their dogs left the scene in trucks. A woman that had taken part in the incident stated, "The cops watched the whole thing from up on the hills. It felt like they were trying to provoke us into being violent when we're peaceful."[60] The incident was filmed by Amy Goodman and a crew from Democracy Now![59][61] Footage shows several people with dog bites and a dog with blood on its muzzle.[60][62][63]

OccasionalCortex says

except everything Jazzy here posts is automatically regarded as total bullshit until proven otherwise. He destroyed his 'credit' here long ago, I am afraid.

That's personal. But he's not starving and he has a smartphone.

I don't see even the slightest hint of authoritarianism from the right in the US these days. Can someone give me an example?

I have personally experienced plenty of authoritarianism from the left though.

HEYYOU says

Patnetters,
Shall I destroy this thread.

You and who's army? Go for it....

Don’t you destroy all threads?

HEYYOU says

Patnetters,
Shall I destroy this thread.

"Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[4][5][6]"

Please explain how a Fascist, who believes in total government control of society and the economy, are "right wing," when a right wing person wants as small a government as possible and the least amount of economic controls. The ultimate right winger is an Anarchist, who wants no government at all. The only people more left wing than a Fascist is a Socialist/Communist. In America, right wingers believe in gun rights, Facists believe in total gun confiscation, like all other authoritarians.

Yep, Bernie will get the most delegates by a fair bit, but the homo will be encouraged to stay in there as will Warren and Klobuchar and take delegates for themselves. In the end, it will be a brokered convention and mini Mike will buy the nomination with a promised $5 BILLION delivered to DNC coffers for a massive spending boost for congressional candidates. There is zero chance the DNC will resist Bloomberg’s billions.

And Bernie’s supporters will go NUTS! I predict that this will split the Democrat Party in half with elitists going one way and progressives/populists the other.

And the election is totally fucked. Progressives are totally not going to vote for Bloomberg, and many will sit out the election in sheer protest.

It’s going to be such a bloodbath. And I don’t see this scenario even being avoidable at this point. I give it a 75% chance of happening just like that.

Glorious!

"At first glance, the latest data – which came out on Feb. 7 – look pretty good. They show nominal hourly earnings rose 3.1% in January from a year earlier."

That's impressive since wages declined relative to inflation during Obama's administration.

Right now government-reported inflation (i.e, CPI) is around 2.1%. So under Trump, wages are growing faster than inflation.

In the end, it will be a brokered convention and mini Mike will buy the nomination with a promised $5 BILLION delivered to DNC coffers for a massive spending boost for congressional candidates. There is zero chance the DNC will resist Bloomberg’s billions.

Yep. Well at least Mini-Mike is to rich to be bought, a refreshing change from the always for sale Clintons. Wonder who Bloomberg will pick for VP.