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Already the virus has kllled 29,000 Americans. 3000 died in the 9/11 attacks. So this pandemic has already killed almost 10 times as many Americans. Would you say, "well the terrorists are going to kill who they are going to kills, so let's just get this over and move one?" Maybe you should just envision the covid virus as tiny Jihadists attacking America. Would that get you to take this pandemic seriously?
Coronavirus: Can it even be stopped?
WookieMan saysYou still don't get it. This virus is going to kill who it's going to kill. We can't hide from it forever. No hospitals, in the US at least, are overwhelmed. Let's just get this over with and move on.
The number of people who will die from the virus is heavily dependent on how we respond to the situation. If stay-at-home orders are kept in place, far fewer people will die.
Already the virus has kllled 29,000 Americans. 3000 died in the 9/11 attacks. So this pandemic has already killed almost 10 times as many Americans. Would you say, "well the terrorists are going to kill who they are going to kills, so let's just get this over and move one?" Maybe you should just envision the covid virus as tiny Jihadists attacking America. Would that get you to take this pandemic seriously?
9/11 was a nothing burger in the history of the world if you look at it on a per capita basis. It was a big deal because of the optics of it.
You're comparing one off events to something that happens every year called the flu.
There have been numerous discrediting of the notion that covid is a lesser threat than the flu. If it wasn't for social distancing and stay at home orders, covid would kill far more than the flu.
annoyed1 saysThere have been numerous discrediting of the notion that covid is a lesser threat than the flu. If it wasn't for social distancing and stay at home orders, covid would kill far more than the flu.
This is true. The CDC numbers of infected/dead indicate a 4% mortality rate in the USA. That’s on par with the Spanish Flu.
Shaman saysannoyed1 saysThere have been numerous discrediting of the notion that covid is a lesser threat than the flu. If it wasn't for social distancing and stay at home orders, covid would kill far more than the flu.
This is true. The CDC numbers of infected/dead indicate a 4% mortality rate in the USA. That’s on par with the Spanish Flu.
Sorry, we don't have remotely the slightest clue how many people are or have been infected. The death rate is a complete guessing game because of that. Even with the current data, there's not a chance with modern medicine that this will get close to the Spanish flu. We'd need 5M dead by now at minimum. Per capita, compared to other outbreaks this really is the flu.
We're overall going to end up with less deaths during this period because there will be less ...
The CDC numbers of infected/dead indicate a 4% mortality rate in the USA.
zzyzzx says
What am I missing? I don't get it.
It points to one main thing, We need more Testing
And yet we changed how we lived our lives greatly before it. An entire draconian act, the USA Patriot Act, was passed because of it. So taking some common sense measures to stop pandemics which are a far greater threat than terrorism ever could be, is quite reasonable.
0.4% is still over a million Americans. How high does the death rate has to be before closing movie theaters and bars are warranted?
annoyed1 says0.4% is still over a million Americans. How high does the death rate has to be before closing movie theaters and bars are warranted?
Never honestly. They should be open now. This isn't some Hollywood virus that is killing everybody. We know who it's killing, they're just too fucking stubborn and are the policy makers in this country. Huge pussies. So hey, let's fuck everyone else over AND get free money they'll never have to pay back. Boomers are a fucking virus. Open up and let them all fucking die...
Why does anyone give a flying fuck about Kanye West?
ThreeBays saysThere's not going to be a quick return to normal.
Prediction: There will indeed be a quick return to normal, except, hopefully, for some valuable lessons learned about why we should not continue to outsource to China.
Why the quick return to normal? Because pretty much every country on earth is on the same curve, showing this thing lasts about 90 days even with varying responses among countries:
More predictions:
- Democrats will blame Trump for not doing enough
- Democrats will blame Trump for doing too much
- Democrats will attempt to continue to outsource factories to China and insource illegals from Mexico, and scream !RACIST! at anyone who objects
- voters will get serious about objecting to the devastation of the US working class, and Democrats will lose not only this...
At least the alarmists have leftglobal warmingclimate change alone for a while.
WALLACE: Black History Month, you find …
FREEMAN: Ridiculous.
WALLACE: Why?
FREEMAN: You’re going to relegate my history to a month?
WALLACE: Come on.
FREEMAN: What do you do with yours? Which month is White History Month? Come on, tell me.
WALLACE: I’m Jewish.
FREEMAN: OK. Which month is Jewish History Month?
WALLACE: There isn’t one.
FREEMAN: Why not? Do you want one?
WALLACE: No, no.
FREEMAN: I don’t either. I don’t want a Black History Month. Black history is American history.
WALLACE: How are we going to get rid of racism until …?
FREEMAN: Stop talking about it. I’m going to stop calling you a white man. And I’m going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. I know you as Mike Wallace. You know me as Morgan Freeman. You’re not going to say, “I know this white guy named Mike Wallace.” Hear what I’m saying?
Onvacation saysAt least the alarmists have leftglobal warmingclimate change alone for a while.
Another bonus: we don't have to hear the 24/7 drone about mostly-imaginary racism.
Not hearing about racism 24/7 is not only much more pleasant, it's actually the most effective way to end what racism there is.
Morgan Freeman and Mike Wallace:WALLACE: Black History Month, you find …
FREEMAN: Ridiculous.
WALLACE: Why?
FREEMAN: You’re going to relegate my history to a month?
WALLACE: Come on.
FREEMAN: What do you do with yours? Which month is White History Month? Come on, tell me.
WALLACE: I’m Jewish.
FREEMAN: OK. Which month is Jewish History Month?
WALLACE: There isn’t one.
FREEMAN: Why not? Do you want one?
WALLACE: No, no.
FREEMAN: I don’t either. I don’t want a Black History...
One of my favorite convos. Unfortunately I ran into a MSNPCCNNBBC lamestream leftoid headline on my phone talking about the next drought! which is! coming! soon! cause climate! change! bad! WTF?? They had the guts after one of the rainiest and snowiest seasons in CA and with the whole East and parts of midwest just getting dumped on massively with cold storms with snow and rain to bring up this shit again. lol unbelievable.
Edward Louis Bernays (/bərˈneɪz/; German: [bɛɐ̯ˈnaɪs]; November 22, 1891 − March 9, 1995) was an Austrian-American pioneer in the field of public relations and propaganda, referred to in his obituary as "the father of public relations".[3] Bernays was named one of the 100 most influential Americans of the 20th century by Life.[4] ...
His best-known campaigns include a 1929 effort to promote female smoking by branding cigarettes as feminist "Torches of Freedom" and his work for the United Fruit Company connected with the CIA-orchestrated overthrow of the democratically elected Guatemalan government in 1954.
zzyzzx says
What am I missing? I don't get it.
Shaman saysThe CDC numbers of infected/dead indicate a 4% mortality rate in the USA.
That's clearly wrong.
The virus kills on the order of 0.4% when you include all of the people who have been infected, per studies in Iceland and Germany. Maybe less.
The 4% is for people who are sick enough to seek medical treatment, which is a minority, about 10% of those infected.
4% x 10% = 0.4%
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