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43% of America’s 30,000,000 small businesses will likely close during this crisis and never reopen. That’s 13 MILLION businesses which employed tens of millions of people, perhaps as many as the 30 million jobs that were lost in the las six weeks.
That will make for an incredible long term unemployment rate which will rapidly turn into a Great Depression2.

We are ON TRACK with this horrifying outcome, and it will happen unless radical measures are passed to give banks a haircut on mortgage payments and businesses a couple free months on their rent. Suck it up, and do what’s best for the country. That’s what they told us when they locked us down. Now it’s what they need to do to fix their fuckup!

What’s the interest rate right now? Lowest I’ve seen is 3.8

Who’s Joe Biden?

Shaman says

@richwicks I tried to tell you, bro. Being Liberal is one thing. Being a raving lunatic who never reads anything people post in response to you is another.

I don't see the point in posting anywhere without at least considering you might be wrong but I'll give you something to be cautious about:

Never consider somebody you disagree with "stupid", "insane", "dumb", or anything like that. Even somebody that has no ability to communicate with you because they are foaming at the mouth doesn't mean they are incorrect, it may be they are correct, but have been brainwashed into being correct. That DOES happen.

Shaman says

Hell, I’m liberal in many ways. I don’t care if the state licensed gays to marry, I think weed and certain other drugs should be legalized, I am pro-Labor, and I take the libertarian side of any government restriction: if it’s not hurting anyone else why ban it?

What does "liberal" even mean these days? I think you're probably like me - practical. I'm in Commiefornia, it's ridiculous to worry about who is sleeping with whom, it's stupid to waste time on prohibition for weed. Labor is absolutely essential, and it's really morally unfair to force American workers to compete against slave labor in China. I'm not exactly libertarian - I consider that a naive system. In "libertarianism" you can do anything except violate the rights of another person - well, whose going to stop some thug from violating the rights of another person? Not the government. It's a nice ideal, but it's a fantasy just like communism is.

Shaman says

Political leaning is one thing. Brainwashed idiocy is another.

Right or wrong, I think most people are brainwashed to some extent. Me included. You have to know you're in a cage before you can break out of it.

I'm currently renting (in CA) but plan to buy soon (hopefully). Anyway, I'm still working and my rent is still paid on time. Even if the government told me I didn't have to pay rent I still would. I don't live my life to fuck other people over.

Fortwaynemobile says

What’s the interest rate right now? Lowest I’ve seen is 3.8

Bankrate.com showing a national average of 3.25% for 30 year, fixed rate mortgage with no discount points.

Shaman says

43% of America’s 30,000,000 small businesses will likely close during this crisis and never reopen. That’s 13 MILLION businesses which employed tens of millions of people, perhaps as many as the 30 million jobs that were lost in the las six weeks.
That will make for an incredible long term unemployment rate which will rapidly turn into a Great Depression2.

Thank you as the 43% statistic came from media like https://www.marketwatch.com/story/43-of-small-businesses-say-theyll-be-forced-to-close-permanently-if-they-dont-get-help-soon-survey-says-2020-04-03

I suspect that about 30% of small businesses were already in bad financial condition just before the coronavirus pandemic and would have failed within the next 6 to 18 months. The virus just shortened the financial failure or misery of these small businesses from 12 months to 2 to 3 of months.

However, coronavirus pandemic also has dragged down small businesses that were in fair financial condition also. I would estimate that applies to about 20% of small businesses. They likely will survive this with major difficulty.

The remainder 50% of small businesses were in good financial shape before the coronavirus pandemic and they should survive this without major difficulty.

Some are experts in creating "between the lines".

It is "between the legs", please keep up.

Covid isn't just 'Boomer Remover', It's small business remover, too! Thanks, Pharma-Vaccine-Industrial complex and it's government anal suppository mouthpieces.

Larry Flynt for SCOTUS!

georgeliberte says

If it were dirt on Bill or Hilary, Tara Reade would have been long dead.

Gennifer Flowers isn't dead.

A certain duck must be shitting in his pants right now.

richwicks says

georgeliberte says

If it were dirt on Bill or Hilary, Tara Reade would have been long dead.

Gennifer Flowers isn't dead.

Gennifer Flowers did not accuse Clinton of rape.

Shaman says

Political leaning is one thing. Brainwashed idiocy is another.

People who feel their own status under threat by a duly elected president who did not attend an Ivy League school explains a lot.

Not only was Trump elected against the wishes of the elite and elitists, he has been doing an excellent job with the economy (until the Wuhan virus) and in keeping us out of new wars.

This makes the whole public aware that credentialism is a sham. And lots of people have dedicated decades of their lives to getting elitist credentials. That must be painful.

jazz_music says

Patrick says

Could you state some specific Trump policies you disagree with?

Trump's staff is doing persistent damage quietly behind his circus, eliminating anything the government is involved with that brings benefit to the electorate. That much is huge and devastating in and of itself, the GOP neoliberal/libertarian agenda implementation that would surely bring about an uprising if it were widely known.

However

So you got nothing.

Even the most impoverished in our country have smart phones and are far from hungry. Stop making up victims.

jazz_music says

Trump's policy on climate crisis is suicide.

What is your prediction for the arctic ice melting? Gore said 2013. Can you understand the climate skeptic's point of view when catastrophe is projected in ten years, for the last fifty years?

And here we are.

jazz_music says

I really have not changed

A lot of people have contracted TDS and don't know it. Have you been tested?

jazz_music says

BIGGEST RAT BASTARD EVER, Trump

Guess not.

Definitely has a little of that “Je ne sais quois” that would turn a head. A “healthy” lass.
Sadly, many women age like avocados.

Biden: "How could anybody who hit the hag button this hard, and would be grateful now for anything I'd give her, stoop to this level of accurate reporting?"

Bahahahahahaha!

Fucking idiots.

Maybe he can claw back the illegals' money?

It's insane. We have on average maybe 20-30 new confirmed cases per day in SF while ICU/hospitalization has been flat for weeks. At this rate the recovered will soon outnumber the active infections. So while people look at totals, a total of 1600 infections in SF probably means less than 1000 active in a county of 1 Million. There's no reason not to open up and yes, people will keep getting infected. but it's better to acquire herd immunity in the summer (with overall less viral load) than during the next winter flu season. It's currently warm and sunny, Newsom would be an imbecile not to open up now.

Amen.

Point of fact, Newsome is not only an idiot, he’s a fucking idiot, and that’s regardless of if he opens back up or not.

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/After-the-Virus-California-Liberals-Say-15245166.php

georgeliberte says

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/After-the-Virus-California-Liberals-Say-15245166.php

Earth to California Twit LibbyFucks: you finally strangled the golden goose and have run out of somebody else's money. Thank you, Newsom, for taking the State full tilt into the jaws of absurdity and madness with Covid. You have now defunded your own delusions. Reality will suck.

The Marine made him stand Down!

MAGA Marines!

yep state is the first one to borrow money from feds to pay unemployment claims. it was on WSJ today.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/california-is-first-state-to-borrow-from-federal-government-to-make-unemployment-payments-11588617257

That damn fake Grass Roots Populism is getting pretty damn popular.

people want to work.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says

SHOULDN'T THEY BE RALLYING! ?

well there is a difference.

when left rallies, its because they want a hand out (panhandle rallies, occupy wall street, shit like that).
when right rallies, they want freedom to work, they just want to work.

anyone can tell the difference there is quite huge, it's polar opposite.

First of all most models are bullshit as you have already seen, they were wrong by a factor of 100. Second they deal with best to worst case scenarios and up to means worst case scenario, given a bell curve or anything similar and the best case scenario is it almost disappears - so let's say less than a few hundred, you end up with maybe anywhere between 500-1500 as the most likely scenario. This will go on til there's sufficient herd immunity which is exactly why they should open up fully for the summer, once herd immunity is reached, daily deaths will trend down til close to zero. That is of course given there's no significant mutation.

Yeah, just what society needs, a series about two trainwrecks of people so they can profit off from being such pieces of shit. Here, want to be famous and make some money? Be a fucking awful human being, and some piece of shit will pay you for your story, and sell it to a bunch of semi-human garbage to watch transfixed.

Again, you don’t even know if that’s a CDC information sheet as a final product.

Because lying NYT.

Unless you believe everything msm and AF doesn’t appear to be someone who believes everything msm.

jazz_music says

Polling shows that just 12% of Americans think their local restrictions have gone too far – and 26% think they don’t go far enough

Fake polls by the American Left that wants to keep the economy down going into the November election.

https://patrick.net/post/1331967/2020-05-04-latest-news-on-reopenings-in-florida

OccasionalCortex says

Sorry, but the Tea Party Movement was not fake. It was not 'astro turf' as Pelosi said it was. It was quite real.

So real that the GOP Rinos got in bed with Obama to sick the IRS on them. You don't sick the IRS on ppl who don't exist.

It got rid of Cantor in a shock primary where a beloved neoliberal/neocon GOPe star was removed, a Paul Ryan type who campaigned tough on values, immigration, etc but pussed out on everything except tax breaks for corps and more foreign interventions. That was when you began to see the first stirrings of fear/rage among the GOPe National Review types - "We're only supposed to give lip service to immigration control - how DARE you expect us to do something when we control the House?"

Oops, repeated the question by mistake @jazz_music

Art of the deal, you get them used to 3K a day, but when we have 0 by June, he'll be great again.