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jazz_music says

BTW, according to the link I furnished with the OP, the author is CHAUNCEY DEVEGA, APRIL 7, 2020 11:00AM (UTC)

If that is the worst you got against me, I made a greater point against your argument, than the minor point you made against mine.

Trump is not dividing America. The left-wing media is by reporting fake news and getting people like you to believe it and fight against people who are getting the real news. Try broadening your horizons.

jazz_music says

The tax cuts for the rich.

Not just for the rich. He gave a middle class tax cut too. Also he is trying to bring middle class jobs back to this country after the globalist in DC sold our country out to China. Low paid jobs at Walmart became the norm during many Democratic administrations including Obama and Clinton, but to be fair, also Bush.

It'll drop to 20 or 30K after they finally eliminate all of the false attributions (well after the election, of course, after which Covid 19 will evaporate from the press).

They'll give Covid 19 a star on the CIA wall for performing its noble duty for the Deep State on Trump and the economy before disappearing from sight and mind.

I think this is just an unwanted side effect that Patrick could look into. Otherwise there is no censorship AFAIK unless it's breaking the law (such as direct threats or child porn, copyright violation etc.). Patrick is already incurring quite a risk by running it since unscrupulous companies and attorneys can and will try to extort money by sending bogus copyright and other claims. One other thing was added was a direct insult instead of focusing on the issue or attacking a broader group instead. This has been controversial but there used to be people in shouting matches just insulting each other - it seems it has gotten more civil since then. Otherwise this is as close to free speech as it can get.

Trump was set for life, yet he campaigned for and took on a job knowing he would take serious flak from establishment Dems, Repubs, and media. Even the FBI investigated Trump under false pretenses (only a severe partisan can deny that now). Trump also knew he would make new enemies by revamping trade by redoing NAFTA and China trade deals, but persisted anyway. Yet Trump continues and and seeks re-election knowing he will face more of the same. Hardly a coward. Want to see a lack of manhood - look to the Repubs in Congress who tremble over a little bad press.

Pretty much every bad flu season takes out around 100K. With MAGA! the graph wouldn't have changed much, see Sweden. The daily deaths and new infections are declining sharply, even in fully reopened states.

#TDS

HeadSet says

Trump was set for life, yet he campaigned for and took on a job knowing he would take serious flak from establishment Dems, Repubs, and media. Even the FBI investigated Trump under false pretenses (only a severe partisan can deny that now). Trump also knew he would make new enemies by revamping trade by redoing NAFTA and China trade deals, but persisted anyway. Yet Trump continues and and seeks re-election knowing he will face more of the same. Hardly a coward. Want to see a lack of manhood - look to the Repubs in Congress who tremble over a little bad press.

Agreed.

#TDS

willywonka says

In essence, it allows anyone to censor anyone else's post, quite ironic considering the stated goal of the website.

Not really. You are only one click away from gay porn with obese hairy men.

If that's what you want.

Onvacation says

Not really. You are only one click away from gay porn with obese hairy men.

If that's what you want.

It is the slippery slope, for sure. With regards to porn, it has been said that you know it when you see it. But that is not exactly true.

I believe you are the person that NSFW'd this photo below. This is not porn. Perhaps you could explain your motive here.

willywonka says

I believe you are the person that NSFW'd this photo below. This is not porn. Perhaps you could explain your motive here.

I'm the one that said it should be. I let some one else tag it. I would have marked it "NSFMeals" if there was such a thing.

Onvacation says

willywonka says

I believe you are the person that NSFW'd this photo below. This is not porn. Perhaps you could explain your motive here.

I'm the one that said it should be. I let some one else tag it. I would have marked it "NSFMeals" if there was such a thing.

Ha ha, indeed. OK, but this is not porn, and someone NSFW'd it. This is pure censorship, which Patrick seems to tolerate. There seems to be a disconnect that smells like hypocrisy.

willywonka says

There seems to be a disconnect that smells like hypocrisy.

Maybe, probably, but it's not a hill to die on.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says

His plan was to lose to IHLary and spend the rest of his days soaking up free publicity whining on Fox News.

Funny, that is sort of what Hillary actually did.

Trump "owns" or rather tries to own the "libs". Everything else is window dressing. In other words Trump may be a lying, moronic, babbling, grifter but he's "our" grifter. Irony is as Howard Stern put it , the so called "masculine" working class white men who support and are his most ardent cult members are the very people he despises. Does the con man admire the mark?

Russians, who have thrown off the yoke of he worst of the Communist nightmare, are somewhat confused that USA seems to be running at the same nightmare, arms open, as if it is some kind of beacon of social and political wisdom. No lessons of history for these fools.

jazz_music says

Anyone saying the dead aren’t being counted properly is an asshole.

Ya but,

Where's the hockey stick?

rd6B says

jazz_music says

The thing that’s saving us from authoritarian Fascism is number one Trump doesn’t have any ideology except to become liquid and grift as much as he can for his family and to the right emergency hasn’t come along that would allow him to rule by decree.

No, the reason that saves us from authoritarian fascism is that orange used car salesmen do not want fascism. I also do not think that our orange pre-owned car salesman is intelligent enough to create the fourth Reich even if he would want to. He is extremely media-savvy, but not more.

On the other hand, bits and pieces of fascism does creep into so-called progressives/democrats policies, such as race-based preferences for hiring which appears to come straight out of Nazionalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeitspartie manifestos.

Agreed, mostly.

Trump has no interest in fascism, and all the accusations of it are completely disconnected from the reality in front of them.

Trump can't be all that dumb. He got himself elected president with the entire establishment determined to stop him.

Also agreed that there are clear elements of fascism in mainstream Democratic policies and behavior, above all their DEMAND for conformity with the "one true path" which just so happens to serve the interests of the ultra rich: a weakening of all national sovereignties so that capital is free to exploit the entire globe in search of maximum profits.

Tim Aurora says

It is not a hoax, Remember "Russia if you are listening ... " and within a few hours, DNC email was hacked by Russians

Patrick says

No one is falling for the Russia hoax anymore.

It was simply hacked by staffer who gave info to Wikileaks and was later killed by Hillary. Left are very murderous types.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says

The VTB syndication of the DB note is vastly more important. If Trump actually blew Putin on TV it would not matter as much as holding the debt that could destroy his business if called.

Is it Russian, or does note belong to some other E. European/FSU entity? I have not seen much about it - not denying that it is not real, but it MIGHT not be Russians. May be Kazakhs, or Uzbeks, or someone else. There is a plethora of corrupt fucks over there.

I have not followed much about E. European crime syndicates since 2005 or so. After that (+/- some years), most large organized crime fell under Russian State. But there exist just as bad or even probably worse syndicates from -stans, which are even more ruthless than Russian ones. See Nazarbayev, Karimov, etc.

Patrick says

Trump can't be all that dumb. He got himself elected president with the entire establishment determined to stop him.

That speaks more about lack of intelligence of establishment, I think.

Trump needs to tell the establishment to quit squirming and stand still.
Slippery slimy swamp bastards!

#TDS

The Tea Party wasn't astroturf.

Here's the proof: The House Majority Leader Eric Cantor lost his seat in a Republican Primary powered by the Tea Party by 10 pts to Dave Brat in 2014.
He won the 2012 Primary by almost 80% of the vote. A majority leader of the House being unseated in a primary is a once-a-century event.

Eric Cantor was you archetypical Big Business Republican: He was for total one sided Free Trade, supported every "Free Trade" Agreement, supported TARP, fought the minimum wage, loved every capital gains tax cut he ever saw, and was solidly anti-Union. He was also weak on immigration. While strong on Gun Rights and Anti-Abortion, he supported a version of the DREAM Act to give big business lots of cheap labor and crush wages of US Citizens. That was his undoing.

If the Tea Party was Astroturf, they would have instructed Virginia Leaders not to endorse Brat or work against Cantor.

jazz_music says

CBOEtrader says

Does Clinton also deserve your critique?

Maybe, I don't know.

But you know Trump is bad? You understand the flaw in your logic? Thinking one is better than the other.

jazz_music says

WookieMan says

the flaw in your logic

The flaw?

Yes. Trump is bad, but you don't know about Clinton though. You're admitting that you may actually not know that Trump is bad by default saying you don't know that Clinton was bad.

Clinton got a BJ on public property. Then lied about it. Not a big deal in my world, but if you don't know Clinton is bad, then maybe you don't know much about Trump? Flying to a pedophile's island multiple times is also pretty bad optics. But hey Trump golfs and talks about grabbing women by the pussy, which he likely never did. You don't know what you don't know.

Yep, and the Tea Party wasn't one, since it took out the House Majority Leader, beloved of Donahue and the COCsuckers in a primary.

Obama did not replace the inventory of masks & equipment.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-administration-sought-to-cut-ppe-stockpile-biden-gop

Nor did Trump "eliminate pandemic response staff"
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-trump-fired-pandemic-team/partly-false-claim-trump-fired-pandemic-response-team-in-2018-idUSKBN21C32M

Just realize that the federal government is bloated, incompetent, and corrupt. That's why "limited government powers" is such an important concept — downsize the government so that it downsizes the bloat, incompetence, and corruption.

When the anti-Trump news tries to lay blame at Trump's feet, it's a fairly reasonable reaction to point out that it was already broken well before Trump got there. We can't exactly expect Trump to fight a coup against him, drain the swamp, fix the economy, secure the borders, drive out the illegal aliens, AND also fix the broken pandemic response system, can we?

jazz_music says

So what?

That was then, this is now.

We are merely applying the same rules and standards you give Democrats to Republicans.

jazz_music says

Onvacation says

Where's the hockey stick?

IDK

Nobody does.

Most people quietly stop talking about it.

jazz_music says

socal2 says

We are merely applying

Too many of you claim to be speaking for a whole group of people.

This shows self knowledge of your weak position.

There is definitely a plurality of like thinking people who can see how wrong you are.

I drove out of state to get a haircut and now all the grandmas in my state are going to DIE.

Math just is and blacks kill each other and whites disproportionately. Don't argue with math, makes one look dumb. You can try and mitigate factors after the first step which is admitting there is a problem. If one keeps deluding themselves with TDS then this bad and sad fact will never change.

personal

Even 200,000 out of at least 330,000,000 isn't much. Not even enough to put a dent in traffic.

Obviously these people are all like butchers with blinders and their fingers on the scale. The bigger the numbers, the greater their power and potential remunerations, while ignoring the collateral damage of extreme policies. They aren't much better than soothsayers casting and reading chicken bones.