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Who is anti-democracy?

The Remainers in the UK
Those refusing to "normalize" Trump, a duly elected President
Those complaining about those "Not listening to Experts", though the COVID fuckup (if not financial crisis) should do away with that bogus claim.

Etc.

It's the Media-Academia-Big Tech complex that is anti-democratic and pro Oligarchy.

So? Learn about population density and comorbidites as well as avg. population age.

Sweden's death rate is below Spain, UK, Belgium, etc. all of which shutdown. The UK is just about starting to maybe loosen a little.

We go through this over and over again.

The very slow bounceback from the worst recession in almost a century isn't much of an accomplishment.

Pushing well beyond IS an accomplishment, it's much harder.

Tenpoundbass says

That's the Climate Change Chart with different labels.

Sad thing is that's true,...for some people.

They don't want to know.

NoCoupForYou says

it's much harder.

Yeah it costs trillions

marcus says

Yeah it costs trillions

Whereas Obama had to double the deficit to get tepid return to normalcy, followed by a 2-3 year plateau, and only started going back up when Trump announced he was running.

I jumped to page three to get past off of the recent holier than thou content over the last few weeks.
And found the fan page for the whole Democrat Primaries.
Why would a Religion mag be covering the Democrat primaries like they Jeff Bezos?
Why would that rag be so political party biased, when Religion has no such bias.


https://religionnews.com/author/jackjenkins/page/3/

Most Episcopagan Leaders, like most Reform Jewish Rabbis or Unitarian-Universalist Charlatans, aren't religious leaders. They're Socialists.

See also - which I posted before seeing this.
https://patrick.net/post/1332652/2020-06-02-episcopagan-bishop-speaks-out

The great news is that only Old Hippies remain in these denominations.

Let me be clear: Any pastor who is more upset that Caesar is defending Churches, than at the Antichrists who attacked it, is a servant of some Worldly Philosophy rather than Jesus.

jazz_music says

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-job-boom-actually-the-fewest-number-of-jobs-created-in-the-last-6-years-0465cb9b54c2/

During his presidential campaign, Donald Trump promised he’d be the “greatest jobs president God ever created.”

Yeah, it's all BS. The statistics the government uses to calculate all this is garbage.

If you can't find a job in 6 months - guess what? You're not unemployed!

jazz_music says

(sigh)

How do you fail to realize that calling the "news" media "fake news" and getting at least 1/2 of the country to understand this is true helps to undermine the oligarchy?

That is the most powerful tool they have - the ability to manufacture consent. That's gone.

How do you fail to realize that showing the department of justice, and the intelligence agencies are corrupt helps to undermine the oligarchy?

They are the enforcers.

You understand that it's not left/right - I'm in complete agreement. Where we disagree is that Trump is a "Republican". He's not even really a Democrat. He's a bull in a very fancy china shop and all the fine china - is the apparatus of the oligarchy.

I don't expect him to fix problems, but it would be nice if he did - I expect him to expose problems and he's doing that just fine.

Like him, hate him - who cares? He is your ally IF you really want to dismantle and expose the oligarchy.

The total deaths are not yet known everywhere.

Maybe Sweden got them sooner, while other places will get it later.

Add it all up and it might be the same.

Of course, NY governor Cuomo sending infected people to nursing homes might have caused a little bump in dead over there.

We won’t know enough to applaud or condemn their response to the virus for at least a year. There are too many unknowns including the possibility that herd immunity in non-lockdown areas will mean the majority of deaths are in the past while lack of herd immunity in lockdown areas means the majority of deaths are yet to be realized but may begin to mount as months turn to years due to lack of herd immunity in those lockdown areas.

Tim Aurora says

Lebron is the opressed and Trump is the Opressor and talking about violence ( the only leader to do so).

HAHAHA HAHAHA!!!!!! Nominated.

Tim Aurora says

OK, I get it now. I agree with image but it was out of context for this topic. With Trumpsters posting weird stuff, I was unable to connect.

There's nothing to connect. The image has nothing to do with Trump. It has nothing to do with "Trumpsters" as you say. It has everything to do with the average person about to get smashed while being lectured by a rich piece of shit that is a puppet himself and doesn't even know it. He's telling you that you're an idiot, while he himself is an idiot. You don't understand the tank Tim. That's the problem.

Looters kill retired Black Police Captain.

www.youtube.com/embed/gmnA6S_0kk8

NoCoupForYou says

Looters kill retired Black Police Captain.

www.youtube.com/embed/gmnA6S_0kk8

According to Joe Biden he wasn’t black

Tim your head might explode, but Trump also agreed with protesters, but not the looters.

They probably don’t show that on leftist sites you visit.

Should have fired belt fed ammo till even crickets silenced.

thomasdong1776 says

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/they-turned-holy-ground-into-a-battleground-clergy-teargassed-by-washington-police/ar-BB14Vzsq

Blatant lie. No law enforcement agency in the entire US tear gasses peaceful protestors. They would be subject to state and federal investigation and there would be ample video evidence.

Shame on you for giving that article a second glance and shame on you for trying to pass such a heavy turd onto the rest of us.

What does happen is protests are ordered to disperse once an assembly is considered unlawful. If they fail to do so, it is no longer a peaceful protest but rather an unlawful one.

I knew the msm lies. This one is a pretty miserable one.

When I go shopping I don't know if I should be bringing a mask or a brick now.

The don’t pay Federal or state income taxes. Only full time employees make enough to pay federal and state income taxes.

So I don’t know why they would want a tax cut.

Sad that we have to defend the memorial of the man that freed the slaves from Democrats, BLM and Antifa.

Democrats still haven't gotten over that Republicans freed the slaves.

thomasdong1776 says

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/02/us/politics/military-national-guard-trump-protests.html

Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, wrote on Twitter that “America is not a battleground. Our fellow citizens are not the enemy.” Gen. Tony Thomas, the former head of the Special Operations Command, tweeted: “The ‘battle space’ of America??? Not what America needs to hear … ever, unless we are invaded by an adversary or experience a constitutional failure … ie a Civil War.”

Adm. Mike Mullen, another former chairman, wrote: “Whatever Trump’s goal in conducting his visit, he laid bare his disdain for the rights of peaceful protest in this country, gave succor to the leaders of other countries who take comfort in our domestic strife, and risked further politicizing the men and women of our armed forces.”

What does this have to do with the false assertion your posted that tear gas was shot at peaceful protestors?

Also why aren’t you capable of responding? How does a civil discourse take place if all you do is copy and paste propaganda?

That pair of free Nikes ends up costing to much, eh?

"Rioters have targeted the home of right-wing journalist Cassandra Fairbanks

Why? It was a left wing cop in a left wing district with a left wing police chief in a left wing city with a left wing mayor.

Remember: When Seconds Count, help is only Minutes Away.
Trust Law Enforcement to clean up the bodies after the fact!

That shit aint right, you go storm the monument who in the hell do they think they are. They have no right to do that. You have all the right to deface every Washington monument you want to Dong! you go charge them and set them straight.

thomasdong1776 says

Trump demands journalists correct stories on the use of tear gas. According to the CDC, it was tear gas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/trump-demands-journalists-correct-stories-on-the-use-of-tear-gas-according-to-the-cdc-it-was-tear-gas/2020/06/02/bf68726c-a544-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html

The Washington Post?

www.youtube.com/embed/IDF1kDhHDEI

Perhaps it was tear gas, but to find out - get it from a reliable source.

thomasdong1776 says

Trump demands journalists correct stories on the use of tear gas. According to the CDC, it was tear gas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/trump-demands-journalists-correct-stories-on-the-use-of-tear-gas-according-to-the-cdc-it-was-tear-gas/2020/06/02/bf68726c-a544-11ea-bb20-ebf0921f3bbd_story.html

More lies! Blatant miserable misrepresentation by you poster Thomas Dong. I contested that the protestors are peaceful...clearly they were declared an unlawful assembly and after failure to disperse, police can take forceful action to remove them.

@patrick do you now see why civil discourse is not possible?

This is why I trolled people. There is no other recourse in these situations other than turn the Alinsky book back at them.

I have morals. I don’t like slinging poo. But when I do, I can keep up with the best of them.

"White crowd protests for George Floyd"

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1268176768822685696

It's still possible to be civil.

Can we get information from a less ridiculously partisan source than Jeff Bezos's Washington Post?

thomasdong1776 says

Perhaps you can explain to us why Trump is demanding the details be "corrected" in an event you say didn't happen.

We do agree, however, that civil discourse isn't possible, because no matter what is said or posted, you will continue to insist you are correct, all the while offering absolutely nothing to back your opinions up. You're like the old-school parent who's only rationale is "because I said so". If that's what passes for "morals" in the con world, no wonder the country is in such dire straits.

Again you misrepresent what I stated. I didn’t sta the event didn’t occur. Ever. I said it didn’t occur as the Washington Post, and you by extension are claiming it did.

In other words you lied, you doubled down on the lie, you changed the topic, misatributed my statements, and changed the conversation.

I’m starting to see why you originally cited the Washington Post.

Tim Aurora says

And no Democratic national leader has supported looters

Lots of local Democrat leaders support them.

Kim Gardner, the Soros installed prosecutor of St Louis just let every single rioter and looter arrested this week out of jail.
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1268195075953176576

Although now I see that the White House is saying tear gas wasn’t deployed. Not sure that matters or not. The cops can disperse an unlawful assembly which by definition can’t possibly be peaceful as the Washington Post falsely stated.

Tim Aurora says

Yes, we should get it from Fox News and Breitbart or some other no-name blog. The first step to fascism is to discredit the MSM who are against the ruling party and prop your media. The fact is that Wapo allows opinion pieces from all sides. Mitch McConnel comes to mind, and I am sure I can dig up many more. Granted that they are not perfect, but they are damn good.

Patrick says

Can we get information from a less ridiculously partisan source than Jeff Bezos's Washington Post?

Why butt in if you are not going to defend or counter what Dong cited.