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WookieMan says

Are elected leaders not the ones that appoint police chiefs and come up with policy and procedure for departments? They hire the attorneys to review this stuff?

Does not matter if mayor appointed police chief, and does not matter if Ms Klobuchar refused to press charges when Chauvin shot an unarmed Hispanic guy, it is ORANGEMAN BAD who is still responsible...

Real dumb for these people to destroy their own neighborhood n businesses.

In few months they will complain why there are no jobs, n facilities in their area, and why no one invests there.

So if 100 billionaire are taking money then attack them or convince them to donate back with projects in their area and promise to never burn or destroy it. When Obama was president, they still had same issues and nothing happened to rich. No tax or any action taken against them. Rich run the politician so nothing will change for them. These dumb people think that destroying small businesses is going to help.
There are racist cops and they need to be addressed, when I get a ticket I hate them too . They are there to prevent n protect.

Pat We should develop are u racist quiz and sell it to many groups with possible solution and team building activity.

jazz_music says

America has plenty of law enforcement, prosecutors and prison cells for those who loot a Whole Foods, but none for those who loot the public treasury, commit stock market swindles or financial fraud on a monumental scale. Not only did no one go to prison for the rampant institutionalized fraud of the 2008 looting, a.k.a. the Global Financial Meltdown--the looters were bailed out by the Federal Reserve and Treasury.

+10000000000000000000000000000000000000
This is the basis of most of the crap we have to live through today. We can argue all day who is wrong, who is right, or if ORANGEMAN is BAD or ORANGE JESUS, but the mega-rich 0.01% looting everything, failing, andbeing bailed out by corrupt bipartisanship is the single important underlying problem.

thomasdong1776 says

Cons wrong yet again.

"Sweden's death rate has risen to one of the highest in the world, significantly higher than its Nordic neighbours which locked down early and have similar health care, political systems, and population density.

As of Tuesday, the country of around 10 million people has more than 4,400 deaths.

Per capita, that's more than 4.5 times the rate in Denmark and more than nine times the rate in Norway."

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-sweden-rushes-launch-no-lockdown-assessment-inquiry-deaths-mount-2020-6

These were people that were probably going to die anyway within the next year. Time table just expedited. Deaths matter, but so do the demographics and overall health of those dying matter equally as much. This isn't some scary Hollywood pandemic.

thomasdong1776 says

Cons

Huh? Swedes are "cons" now? What happened to "beautiful working Socialism"?

4,000 is nothing.
Democrat lockdowns are the worst policy idea in generations.

jazz_music says

The only way is activism.

Against oligarchy.

Bottom line.

So elect Biden and Hillary!
They represent the oligarchs, take their money and implement their policies against the people.
Bbbbut they’re Democrats!
So yeah!
LOL!

thomasdong1776 says

As of Tuesday, the country of around 10 million people has more than 4,400 deaths.

4400 out of 10 million is 0.05%.

If you are that afraid of death, you should ban yourself from cars (which kill 35,000 to 50,000 every year in the US alone), ban yourself from using electricity, ban yourself from hospitals (which kills 100,000 American each year with contagious diseases acquired there, and likely higher number from malpractice), and ban yourself from swimming.

And Swedes aren't currently burning down all of their cities with 3 months of pent up anger from being unemployed and stuck at home.

Seven times the SF Bay Area death rate from COVID-19.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says

If the facts do not stop lying, the facts will be deported.

+++

Who is anti-democracy?

The Remainers in the UK
Those refusing to "normalize" Trump, a duly elected President
Those complaining about those "Not listening to Experts", though the COVID fuckup (if not financial crisis) should do away with that bogus claim.

Etc.

It's the Media-Academia-Big Tech complex that is anti-democratic and pro Oligarchy.

So? Learn about population density and comorbidites as well as avg. population age.

Sweden's death rate is below Spain, UK, Belgium, etc. all of which shutdown. The UK is just about starting to maybe loosen a little.

We go through this over and over again.

The very slow bounceback from the worst recession in almost a century isn't much of an accomplishment.

Pushing well beyond IS an accomplishment, it's much harder.

Tenpoundbass says

That's the Climate Change Chart with different labels.

Sad thing is that's true,...for some people.

They don't want to know.

NoCoupForYou says

it's much harder.

Yeah it costs trillions

marcus says

Yeah it costs trillions

Whereas Obama had to double the deficit to get tepid return to normalcy, followed by a 2-3 year plateau, and only started going back up when Trump announced he was running.

I jumped to page three to get past off of the recent holier than thou content over the last few weeks.
And found the fan page for the whole Democrat Primaries.
Why would a Religion mag be covering the Democrat primaries like they Jeff Bezos?
Why would that rag be so political party biased, when Religion has no such bias.


https://religionnews.com/author/jackjenkins/page/3/

Most Episcopagan Leaders, like most Reform Jewish Rabbis or Unitarian-Universalist Charlatans, aren't religious leaders. They're Socialists.

See also - which I posted before seeing this.
https://patrick.net/post/1332652/2020-06-02-episcopagan-bishop-speaks-out

The great news is that only Old Hippies remain in these denominations.

Let me be clear: Any pastor who is more upset that Caesar is defending Churches, than at the Antichrists who attacked it, is a servant of some Worldly Philosophy rather than Jesus.

jazz_music says

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-job-boom-actually-the-fewest-number-of-jobs-created-in-the-last-6-years-0465cb9b54c2/

During his presidential campaign, Donald Trump promised he’d be the “greatest jobs president God ever created.”

Yeah, it's all BS. The statistics the government uses to calculate all this is garbage.

If you can't find a job in 6 months - guess what? You're not unemployed!

jazz_music says

(sigh)

How do you fail to realize that calling the "news" media "fake news" and getting at least 1/2 of the country to understand this is true helps to undermine the oligarchy?

That is the most powerful tool they have - the ability to manufacture consent. That's gone.

How do you fail to realize that showing the department of justice, and the intelligence agencies are corrupt helps to undermine the oligarchy?

They are the enforcers.

You understand that it's not left/right - I'm in complete agreement. Where we disagree is that Trump is a "Republican". He's not even really a Democrat. He's a bull in a very fancy china shop and all the fine china - is the apparatus of the oligarchy.

I don't expect him to fix problems, but it would be nice if he did - I expect him to expose problems and he's doing that just fine.

Like him, hate him - who cares? He is your ally IF you really want to dismantle and expose the oligarchy.

The total deaths are not yet known everywhere.

Maybe Sweden got them sooner, while other places will get it later.

Add it all up and it might be the same.

Of course, NY governor Cuomo sending infected people to nursing homes might have caused a little bump in dead over there.

We won’t know enough to applaud or condemn their response to the virus for at least a year. There are too many unknowns including the possibility that herd immunity in non-lockdown areas will mean the majority of deaths are in the past while lack of herd immunity in lockdown areas means the majority of deaths are yet to be realized but may begin to mount as months turn to years due to lack of herd immunity in those lockdown areas.

Tim Aurora says

Lebron is the opressed and Trump is the Opressor and talking about violence ( the only leader to do so).

HAHAHA HAHAHA!!!!!! Nominated.

Tim Aurora says

OK, I get it now. I agree with image but it was out of context for this topic. With Trumpsters posting weird stuff, I was unable to connect.

There's nothing to connect. The image has nothing to do with Trump. It has nothing to do with "Trumpsters" as you say. It has everything to do with the average person about to get smashed while being lectured by a rich piece of shit that is a puppet himself and doesn't even know it. He's telling you that you're an idiot, while he himself is an idiot. You don't understand the tank Tim. That's the problem.

Looters kill retired Black Police Captain.

www.youtube.com/embed/gmnA6S_0kk8

NoCoupForYou says

Looters kill retired Black Police Captain.

www.youtube.com/embed/gmnA6S_0kk8

According to Joe Biden he wasn’t black

Tim your head might explode, but Trump also agreed with protesters, but not the looters.

They probably don’t show that on leftist sites you visit.

Should have fired belt fed ammo till even crickets silenced.

thomasdong1776 says

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/they-turned-holy-ground-into-a-battleground-clergy-teargassed-by-washington-police/ar-BB14Vzsq

Blatant lie. No law enforcement agency in the entire US tear gasses peaceful protestors. They would be subject to state and federal investigation and there would be ample video evidence.

Shame on you for giving that article a second glance and shame on you for trying to pass such a heavy turd onto the rest of us.

What does happen is protests are ordered to disperse once an assembly is considered unlawful. If they fail to do so, it is no longer a peaceful protest but rather an unlawful one.

I knew the msm lies. This one is a pretty miserable one.

When I go shopping I don't know if I should be bringing a mask or a brick now.

The don’t pay Federal or state income taxes. Only full time employees make enough to pay federal and state income taxes.

So I don’t know why they would want a tax cut.

Sad that we have to defend the memorial of the man that freed the slaves from Democrats, BLM and Antifa.

Democrats still haven't gotten over that Republicans freed the slaves.

thomasdong1776 says

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/02/us/politics/military-national-guard-trump-protests.html

Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, wrote on Twitter that “America is not a battleground. Our fellow citizens are not the enemy.” Gen. Tony Thomas, the former head of the Special Operations Command, tweeted: “The ‘battle space’ of America??? Not what America needs to hear … ever, unless we are invaded by an adversary or experience a constitutional failure … ie a Civil War.”

Adm. Mike Mullen, another former chairman, wrote: “Whatever Trump’s goal in conducting his visit, he laid bare his disdain for the rights of peaceful protest in this country, gave succor to the leaders of other countries who take comfort in our domestic strife, and risked further politicizing the men and women of our armed forces.”

What does this have to do with the false assertion your posted that tear gas was shot at peaceful protestors?

Also why aren’t you capable of responding? How does a civil discourse take place if all you do is copy and paste propaganda?

That pair of free Nikes ends up costing to much, eh?