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Onvacation says

Programming is not about the code words and syntax of a particular language, it's about logic and algorithms to solve problems. My favorite language is pseudo-code. Once I have figured out how to solve the problem at hand I can translate it into any language that might be used. Granted some languages are better for doing some things and knowledge and experience in that language is valued (often overvalued) in the market.

Pseudo Code is nonsense if you don't already have a language, process and platform already in mind.
10 lines of pseudo code may be represented with one lambda expression, there's so much looping and temporary heaps you can avoid by using LINQ.

Those if's, loops and recursive method calls, could never be realized in the code.
The single most important starting place is the Data model, all failed software projects, treated the Data model as an after fact to prove the concept of bad coding practices.
Where if you start with a great model, then all of the data challenges will be solved before the first line of code is created. Really after that all you need is MVC CRUD Pages and bare minimum Structure coding. Where you put the Business rules should then be considered second. The rest is easy.

Onvacation says

From the article:

HackerRank, a tech company that focuses on competitive programming challenges for both programmers and recruiters, surveyed over 116,000 software developers and
students to figure out what coding languages were associated with the highest pay worldwide.

So they surveyed out of work people for the highet paying jobs?

Please don't ever question my Spidey Triggers again!

FuckCCP89 says

Pascal is on the list and Java is not? WTF?

I was wondering when someone was going to mention the obvious.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch says

Someone saw Floyd eat a Twinkee!

It was suicide by transfats!

Case closed!

The three cops kneeling on him were trying to revive him with a brisk knee massage!

Don't lie, we all know he died of COVID-19, everyone in last year in fact only died from COVID-19, even those people who muslims beheaded. They were in fact already dead from COVID-19 by the time muslims got them. FACTS!

Online meetings are better because I can actually work during the portions where I'm not immediately involved. Go to any corporate office and look in the meeting rooms. Two or three people talking and the rest on their laptops. Webex and Skype also solve the problem of roaming the aisles to get to someone's cube that isn't there, anyway. I've even had IMs with people directly across the aisle from me. It's more efficient and leaves a paper trail in case I need to refer back.

Face-to-Face can be beneficial, but I'm willing to drive or fly in to the office a few times a year to get that time in. In the modern office, face-to-face isn't always the most efficient option.

I have Gorilla Glue on my laptop Camera lens, just a beige haze is all anyone sees.

I dial in, and then mute my phone, they can't tell you're muted.

Then I just do bong hits, and play my guitar. I love the Zoom meetings it gives me an hour of peace every other day, without constant emails and calls interrupting me.

Tenpoundbass says

The single most important starting place is the Data model, all failed software projects, treated the Data model as an after fact to prove the concept of bad coding practices.

Agreed!

Tenpoundbass says

Pseudo Code is nonsense if you don't already have a language, process and platform already in mind.

"You start programming and I'll go figure out the requirements." Old programmers joke.

The point I was making is that understanding logic and algorithms is more important for a software engineer than any specific language. Just my educated opinion.

Onvacation says

The point I was making is that understanding logic and algorithms is more important for a software engineer than any specific language. Just my educated opinion.

True, but try to convince any potential future employer of this.

zzyzzx says

True, but try to convince any potential future employer of this.

Ya gotta have skills and experience too!

Onvacation says

"You start programming and I'll go figure out the requirements." Old programmers joke.

Unless it's someone I'll be working with that will also be coding. I would much rather go by the original requirements bullet point, than their pseudo code.
I don't write cookie cutter code, cut and paste from a Miami Dade College course material. I have patterns, and design principals, that I have developed over my 30 year career.

No pseudo code from a business analyst who just barely even understands the business he's writing that pseudo code for, is going to be as robust, powerful and efficient as my processes and standards.

Tenpoundbass says

Onvacation says

From the article:

HackerRank, a tech company that focuses on competitive programming challenges for both programmers and recruiters, surveyed over 116,000 software developers and
students to figure out what coding languages were associated with the highest pay worldwide.

So they surveyed out of work people for the highet paying jobs?

Please don't ever question my Spidey Triggers again!

Out of work people and also those who have never worked. I'd love to see how may of those students are programming computers as a job 10 years from now.

socal2 says

When are we going to talk about African Americans refusing to form families and raise the children they create?

From what I've heard, G. F. is a perfect example of this problem.

Tim Aurora says

While I was doing jury duty, during the jury selection, the district lawyer asked everyone ( under oath) if we has any misgivings about police. One after another, most of the blacks had harrowing stories about police harassing them. So it is not just about one death, It is also not about black vs white racism as Black police officers also mistreated their brothers. It is about the culture of harassment for black folks at the hands of police.

You telling me that America does not promote victim mentality in order to gain benefit? (Because that's all over the tv)
You are telling me that police black/white specifically target black people? (No evidence for that, I've seen whites feel same way)
You are telling me that people would not lie to get out of jury duty? (lol) Dude if I could use an excuse, I'm out of there instantly!

All I'm saying Tim is that those 3 reasons I listed could very well explain your experience just as well. Because claiming that there is racism, without actual proof of racism is not really a valid explanation.

I hate Zoom. I had to fire the makeup department, the costume department, the interior design department and the script writer. Then I realized they were all me.

Salaries in expensive areas like San fran, ny, dc are higher than philly but cost of living is higher also.
Also manager n director of so pays better.
Also salaries been cut due to covid.

What IT career pays best?

AnyKey says

I'd like to see how many coders on this forum are still programming in 10 years as well - A.I. will do those jobs much cheaper with no H.R. headaches.

Cognition is not a mathematical equation.

While AI can come up with brilliant random algorithms man would have never came up with. That a human can then evaluate and see where it solves problems for it's purpose.
Dumb dynamics can do way more than AI ever will do for solving problems. It does so without caring or evaluating the needs, as all data is treated equally. Even dynamic programming doesn't address the entire scope of a project, and is usually only used in an entity of the schema of a data model. Examples of this pattern is Car Features and Options. So you don't have a table with thousands and thousands of fields wide, and you don't have millions of tables for each model.

You can't tell AI I want software to manage a Pizza operation from soup to nuts make it happen. It may assists and be employed in some of the solution processes but it wont be the architect and coder.

I've been writing about hype tech for years, and have a 100% track record on being proven right every time. AI is over hyped for what it does and can do. It's amazing but it will never replace the cognitive abilities of human with Down Syndrome, not with 1 million qbits.

But back on AI, the human gut is our second brain. That is the gut feeling you get when you see a person, but even before you brain has parsed why you think that person is trouble. Your gut has already made you wary and careful of this person. Or even a bad deal, or bad trade, your brain my be saying yes yes yes. But your gut will remember the problem it caused the last time you made a deal like that and lost your shirt. Imagine a software system that can evaluate data before it has even parsed or consumed it, and made any filters or queries. I'm not talking about data validation based on data types and lengths here, or doing data look ups to see if the Customer exists.
The Third Eye makes choices and decisions without mathematical computations or matching one data set to another data set.

Another amazing feat of the human brain computer is thought.
Computers will never daydream and brainstorm.
The Eureka moment, is just that a moment it happens in a split millisecond in a moment of time.
Yet you glean so much information from this sudden surge of knowledge and ideas to try.
Ideas like that don't happen in chronological steps it's a huge heap of data just inserted in your brain. That is why when you have those moments you want to get a pen. People say before I forget, but it's really so they can unpack what the psyche has just placed on your brain. You then have to chronologically write out the idea in order and complexity required to succeed.
Song writers always say, "It just came to me" the same with writing songs, pretty much whole song in a concept happens all at once. The song writer then has to write it down or forget it later if he doesn't, or doesn't at least start playing at that moment.
Another way this chunk data manifests itself is dozing off in a midday drowsy nap. Especially when you're trying hard not to, and you keep forcing yourself to snap out of nodding off. I'm amazed how in many instances, I'll look at the clock on my computer and see it's 4:00pm for an example. Nod off, jerk out of it, and then realize I just had a daydream that would take over 20 minutes for me to explain or go through the events. Yet the clock just turns 4:01 when I look at the clock.

AnyKey says

P.S. If you are over 50ish and a coder - jog your memory back to the dot.com crash. Your new gig will pay much less or you will be doing a different line of work.

I could do C# back then so i was worth more than those doing VB.NET.

Tim Aurora says

I do not think that these people were lying.

Okay, so you don't know. Thinking someone isn't lying and knowing are two different things. They could have been lying and likely were. No judge during jury duty is going to hold you in contempt of court if they "think" you lied about something. They'll just dismiss you. It's not a big deal for them. I'd say 50% of people make up lies to get out of jury duty. Maybe more. You have a lot of blind faith in the random public.

Tim Aurora says

Yes, they target black men .

There is no evidence of that or proof. If some cops do do that, they get fired.

Tim Aurora says

I would not lie under oath and I do not think that these people were lying.

Possibly sure, but also possibly they were. I've seen people tell crazy fairytales in court under oath. Unfortunately oath means very little to many people if they don't think they'll be caught.

All I'm saying Tim is that it isn't accurate to always assume racism, and many people do. It's not critical thinking. Let's say those men believed they were discriminated, well they were very likely using same logic where they just assumed that white cop was targeting them (which is kind of racist).

Industry is coming back and we're going to see America putting less emphasis on over hyping and over selling of tech.

There's going to be plenty of factories and machine shops, tech wont be the only game in town.

As for relevance, that's always been my motto "Stay Relevant My friends."

I'm the only technical person at the company I work for, down from seven doing different tasks from network to reporting, to ERP management.
I wrote all of the middleware systems. Guess they can't do without me. Or I would have been the first to go.

WookieMan says

Patnet, this is why I keep coming back. The OP has not responded to anything and we're now on the topic of statins. Which will then result in Tim coming back and reprimanding for you not staying on topic in 5...4...3...2...1...

Don't you think free flow of thought is more interesting than a structured discussion? I certainly prefer that, and I just assumed most people preferred it. Only when I'm trying to solve a specific problem do I want it to remain entirely on topic.

I bet perl programmers are highly paid just because they tend to be older and have more experience. Not really about the language itself.

https://thefederalist.com/ is high quality, coherent, and seems pretty objective.

It's a much better source for actual news and analysis than the NY Times, which is nothing but Pravda for believers in The Narrative these days.

socal2 says

The Federalist were one of the few sites that got the whole Russian Collusion B.S. correct early on.

Whereas the NYTimes got a Pulitzer (and plans on keeping it) for reporting all the Fake News claiming Trump was a Russian agent.

Exactly!

If they could have replaced me with a know it all moron millennial that knows every damn thing, they would have a long time ago.
Bahleeb meh they tried and tried and tried, and I'm still here. Millennial are fucking idiots and just can't understand the systems I wrote.

They tried to go to Netsuite, and those idiots lied to them and said they could replicate the processes I made. They lied and left them hanging with the monthly bill, after a year and half of them just fucking around with the configuration and custom data lists. Now there's a lawsuit. LOL

Just had a meeting, they want me to actually write a proprietary system and they are ditching Box ERP and CRM's altogether.

Not sure if I want to, they ran off all of the capable brilliant people that I collaborated with to make their middleware systems, and I don't think I could never do it with a bunch of clueless Liberal Arts majors that insists on being in Technical meetings, then gets mad at me, when they don't understand the answer to the questions they ask me, and don't know how to ask the questions they want. They have no business being elevated to Post Turtles, and that's what they are.

Tim Aurora says

Blogs and Facebook and Federalists should be banned from this site.

No sites are banned from patrick.net and I hope never to even consider doing such a thing.

No matter how amateur or vile one may think a site, it could well still be the source for important information not available elsewhere.

In response to APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch

You plagiarized that entire article from the Washington Post.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/11/markets-today-fed-coronavirus/

I didn't know who would pay to get propaganda sent to them.

www.youtube.com/embed/z1g1ZB4WNhw

HEYYOU says

Bet this is the first time anyone has failed to post a link to the source.

Donald Trump plagiarizes that he's a man constantly.

"Plagiarizes that he's a man"? I don't care if he's a cross dresser in suit. Nobody does.

Anyhow I'm not complaining about the lack of attribution.

I'm complaining about the source.

The Washington Post has relentlessly created propaganda. They are owned by Amazon, by Jeff Bezos. They pull this kind of crap:

www.youtube.com/embed/x6U2Un5kEdI

It's not a trustworthy source. They should be entirely ignored. APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch is quoting them, and not only that, pays for the privilege of being able to read them. I simply haven't met anybody anywhere that did that. They are clearly propaganda, why pay to have somebody lie to you?

HEYYOU says

Real plagiarization is RepCons that can't pay off their debt regardless of size & have to work for someone else & take orders from those more successful,declaring that they are business smart?

I do not know WTF a "RepCon" is - I'm just happy we have a president that lies to his underlings promising to start a new war, but never does. I'd be just as thrilled with Obama, if he didn't start any new wars - but he did.

www.youtube.com/embed/AdIpoE2LEps

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Wilshire 5000 market capitalization versus GDP is 1.5. It reached its all time high of 1.6 back in early March 2020.

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However the S&P 500 P/E ratio is 21 based on trailing 12 months earnings. Granted earnings are in a significant downward trend over the last 4 months. Still at 21, valuation is at the border between bubble and over valuation, and is a lot better than when the P/E ratio was 45 around summer of 2001, and better than when it was at 25 in 1992.
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Crazy Ralph was a bastion of sanity compared to the loonies wandering the streets and halls of academia these days.

Patrick says

I bet perl programmers are highly paid just because they tend to be older and have more experience. Not really about the language itself.

Or those are the projects in maintenance mode and not too many around to find.

AnyKey says

They can and you will when the best needs of the company or economy dictate. Leadership changes within a company often bring unexpected changes as well.

Do not make the mistake of over estimating your own worth/value to a company. Again - there is always someone out there better than we are at what we do - always.

Keep hoping I get unemployed comrade, maybe I'll get a raise, and the corner office.

Sounds like y'all are "going postal" yourselves....

If AI is replacing all of these jobs, then why is it so important to import more Dot heads?
It's all LARP and damned Lies. AnyKey is controlled opposition, trying to convince everyone that the jobs, they are illegally giving to foreign interests while they intentionally seek to not employ American workers based on race alone, don't exist.
Sorry Charlie! (Charlie Classic American code word for Commie)


https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/06/12/wsj-business-fighting-trumps-visa-reform-want-carve-out-loopholes/