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NoYes says

I just read that ALL owners of these units were about to be soon hit with a $100,000 assessment fee per unit for overdue repairs

Highest I've ever seen was $45k per unit when I worked in the industry. $100k is fucking insane. Clearly the HOA was fucked up.

I'd never live in a high rise situation. I'd rather do a 2-4 story mid-rise building if I had to. If you have to do windows, you just get a lift and put new windows in. Not that easy above 4-5 stories on a building. So things like windows and exterior maintenance get deferred. Then everything starts to come to a head and you have to charge $100k in special assessments. Not saying it was windows, it's just hard to hit homeowners with 3 big things at once, as that's usually how it goes as parts hit their life expectancy.

I think we're going to be seeing more of this in the coming years. The engineering is solid, but long term we really don't know what the outcome will be. We're really in the infancy of building tall buildings if you think about it. Fire prevention and safety is generally the first concern. Everyone just assumes the structure itself is fine.

WookieMan says

We're really in the infancy of building tall buildings if you think about it.

The beautiful Woolworth building is 108 years old, the Empire State is 90. When Margaret Truman's piano started falling through the floor of the White House in 1949, it was said that the floor was so rotten that it had only remained in place out of habit. It was determined the whole structure was just a shell that could fall at any minute. The Trumans were relocated across the street and the entire structure gutted and rebuilt between 1950 and 1952 and that was 70 years ago. No telling how many other ancient structures are borderline. The downside of being a young country. We tear stuff down when it's 50 years old, people in Europe are living and working in structures 800 or more years old that weren't built with timing devices to self-destruct in 75 years.

Onvacation says

According to NIST's official report the damage to the corner of WTC7 did not contribute to it's collapse.

The official story say's that office fires caused a column to weaken causing the cascading failure of every column and beam in the building.

After reviewing the video Booger posted, I'm convinced that tension suspension slabs are a menace. When those cables break lose the floor is nothing more than a Saltine cracker with tons of weight on it. That explains everything that happened on 9-11, the cables are much thinner, and less resistant to heat, than rebar. And after enough of the cables snapped in those 9-11 buildings, the whole building easily took a shit. I think the NIST was in cover up mode about the tension cables, so they didn't mention it.
There's a follow up video by the guy that Booger posted, where he's backpedaling on most of what he said about it. Almost as if he was threatened he will never work in this town again.

If people knew those building built in the 70's were cheap pieces of shit, that could collapse at any minute from under their feet. It would cause massive problems in those high-rise communities, and major cities through out America.

Poured Slab construction does not fall apart in tiny bits and pieces like those tension slabs did. You see it in earthquake areas around the world. That is why people are found alive under debris even after a week or more. When those buildings with slabs come down around the world after Earthquakes. Even if the building overall was shitty construction, the floors at least hold together, so if they fall in a way to create crawl space between the layers. That can not happen, and does not happen with tension wire construction. If people figured this out, nobody would want to step foot in them, and there would be a massive lawsuit throughout America that would roil the RE industry.
Just think of all of those cities and towns, that would be considering demolishing half their skyline. Which is EXACTLY what I think should happen.

MAGA says

From the first day, part of the monthly HOA fees should be invested to cover major repairs in the future.

Condo fees are just there to cover all of the salaries of the people that tell you how to live in your own house. When something actually has to be done, there's always an assessment.

Tenpoundbass says

That explains everything that happened on 9-11, the cables are much thinner, and less resistant to heat, than rebar. And after enough of the cables snapped in those 9-11 buildings, the whole building easily took a shit. I think the NIST was in cover up mode about the tension cables, so they didn't mention it.

Tension cables?

WTC7 blueprints are available. WTC7 supposedly went down because office fires caused beams to weaken. What does that have to do with "tension cables"?

Onvacation says

WTC7 blueprints are available. WTC7 supposedly went down because office fires caused beams to weaken.

That's a good place to leave it. How do you pick up millions of baseball size chunks of concrete, and thousands of lose wire, and try to determine


Booger says

It's precast concrete slabs held together with cables, I think. This guy explains it better than I can:
https://youtu.be/WJoTw4orM58

Tenpoundbass says

That's a good place to leave it.

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They didn't deserve to die.
But everyone knows a tall residential building on a beach in S. Florida is going to be an HOA nightmare.
I once looked at a place on Jupiter Island; the HOA was $1300/month.

Thank You Booger and Engineer Josh Porter. EXCELLENT information. Great link to save. (247,000 views to date)

Haha - you might have been in danger 20 years ago.

Today, it doesn't matter what kind of evidence you have on HRC - the DOJ will simply decline to prosecute.

The lady fucking destroyed evidence by smashing phones, and wiping her computer while she was under subpoena. THAT is a felony. She ran for prezdident anyhow.

Right, no condos for me, and no shared walls. I will require the ability to walk all the way around any property I buy.

The feds must order a immediate building moratorium on post tension construction on anything over 1 story, where we live and work and sleep. These lost lives crushed to death here, should not be in vain. We cannot be a third world country. NEVER AGAIN, no more shortcuts, should be the cause. Existing death buildings should be evacuated and condemned. We must never allow this to happen again, no matter what the cost now. World trade building construction building type also, (if not already banned). No more wiz bang building cost savers for bigger profits approved at local/state levels, that are so easily corrupted.

clambo says

I once looked at a place on Jupiter Island; the HOA was $1300/month.

Supposed to be one of the wealthiest zipcodes in the country.

Patrick says

Right, no condos for me, and no shared walls. I will require the ability to walk all the way around any property I buy.

I'm the same way. I'd do it for a vacation property though is the only exception as I'd only be there a month or so a year. Low rise building as well, as elevators are expensive as shit and add to HOA fees, and don't collapse generally. Not worrying (hopefully) about maintenance is the positive of having a property remotely. As much as people hate FB, it's a great resource to find groups of people that live in or own a unit in large complexes.

We'll probably be looking at condos in St. Thomas in October. Which reminds me that I need to get the research gears turning. I need to look into HOA fees and what I'd need to get for hurricane insurance. Not overly worried about price for a studio or 1 bed place as we don't need much space. It's a place to crash and investment, as cheaper places will rent faster. Nice places down there will run 7 figures all day and we ain't going there. Also need to dig into the local government and make sure I'm not getting into a shitty situation tax wise and politically.

Check out the Miami Herald story.
The builder sounds like a Bernie Madoff character.

LOL! Still conspiracy theorists that say it was detonated (there were multiple flashes observed as it went down) because it contained Mcafee hubs.

The FBI has been 'deployed' which would support conspiracy theories, because they never show up unless it is to seize, hide, or destroy evidence, or to create a completely false narrative to cover something up.

Jeffrey Prather says in addition to flashes observed, rebar was bent upwards and outwards as in explosion, rather than just downward as in a collapse. More conspiracy theories:

Biden ordered the collapse to give him a photo op.

Picture missing?

Obama years, here! we! come!

With a lil' Biden stank twist.

Lie.
Cheat.
Steal.

It’s all fair game when someone is trying to kill you.

No one's asked me, but I'm permanent remote...

farmer2021 says

I had no choice but to take this hopefully minor irritant and not death sentence vaccine due to unavoidable circumstances.

Did they hold you down and jab you?

I figger I'll write my own paycheck when almost all of our workforce is dead in less than two years.

Onvacation says

farmer2021 says

I had no choice but to take this hopefully minor irritant and not death sentence vaccine due to unavoidable circumstances.

Did they hold you down and jab you?

Too many illiterate MDs and seniors not in best health in family.
Sometimes you have to take path of least resistance even if it is possibly deadly.

Tenpoundbass says

I figger I'll write my own paycheck when almost all of our workforce is dead in less than two years.

You can try this already in Detroit, I heard all the workers left and there are plenty of high paying jobs to serve empty buildings.

Shaman says

It’s all fair game when someone is trying to kill you.

Absolutely.

No one is under any obligation to take experimental drugs:

http://www.cirp.org/library/ethics/nuremberg/

The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision.

Patrick says

No one is under any obligation to take experimental drugs:

I'm a broken record. It's not even about a vaccine. 99% of people don't even have Covid or have gotten it and recovered. Why do we need to know? They're creating a huge problem for the gay/AIDS community.

The only way to respond to your employer (I'm not and never will be corporate) is to ask if you do the same thing for people with AIDS. The HR director or whatever they're called will be like WTF. Whether it's true or not, just say I don't think it's fair I have to work with people that have AIDS. That's a far greater risk and health cost than Covid. It's a life long illness.

https://archive.is/zcsdl

AIDS doesn’t have a vaccine and can’t be transmitted through air. Bad example.

Yes, corporate Silicon Valley are asking for vaccine status and scanned copies of vaccine card. This is happening at major SP500 companies today.

They claim it’s optional but will influence what you are and aren’t able to do as companies go back to work during the second half of the year.

Pressure to get the shot, assuming you need that job, is tremendous.

BayArea says

Pressure to get the shot, assuming you need that job, is tremendous.

Who needs it?

Oh, the job...

If your employer wants you to take an experimental biologic agent to stay employed, who needs it?

Of course companies are asking if you have been vaxxed. Nothing wrong with asking....That doesnt meant they force you to....at least not at our company (Fortune 500 company). They would be sued otherwise. I've worked for the company since a decade and have quite the network.....i dont know anyone who got in trouble for not being vaxxed. You are probably more likely to work remotely without the jab.....

BayArea says

Pressure to get the shot, assuming you need that job, is tremendous.

Employers around here are not willing to force employees to get the jab, since that would open up the employer to lawsuits if the jab has ill effects on any of the employees. The threat would come from legislatures passing laws exempting employers from lawsuits filed by employees with jab side effects.

HeadSet says

Employers around here are not willing to force employees to get the jab, since that would open up the employer to lawsuits if the jab has ill effects on any of the employees

spot on

Onvacation says

BayArea says

Pressure to get the shot, assuming you need that job, is tremendous.

Who needs it?

Really? Practically EVERYONE needs a job.

I think you guys are missing the point

These companies are putting immense pressure on employees to get vaccines without actually mandating that they get the vaccine.

Sure, don’t get it if you so choose. But watch what happens slowly to your position at work.

BayArea says

AIDS doesn’t have a vaccine and can’t be transmitted through air. Bad example.

I'd disagree based on your own comment. It's a disease (AIDS) that cannot be vaccinated against. I want to know who has AIDS in the office so I can avoid them. If we're going to want to know who has been vaccinated against a mundane cold, I want to know who the people are the could try to rape you or put their blood on you giving you a lifetime illness. You live with AIDS for a lifetime and likely max out your deductible. Uninsurable for life insurance. Covid is a cold. Asking if you've been vaccinated for Covid is waaaaaaay more over the top than asking if someone has AIDS.

You know why? Gays are a protected class above and beyond others. You and I have to get vaccinated against a cold if we have corporate jobs. I think it's a perfectly good example if not a great one as it shows how logic has been throw out the window. I mean let's say I work for Caterpillar. Have AIDS. I cut myself. It's not improbable to pass AIDS to a person treating you. Oh, and it's another Fauci fuck up too.