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The Irish and the Scottish were the same people with the same language until about 1600 or so.

The Irish were actually called "Scotti" in Latin.

Patrick says

The Irish and the Scottish were the same people with the same language until about 1600 or so.

Hol' up. There wasn't even a single language in Ireland before the 1600s. Travel 50 miles from your home town and the folks you meet spoke something else. Same in medieval England. Go from Leeds to York and you would need an interpreter to buy a horse.

There were and are a lot of dialects, but there was also a unified formal Gaelic used by scholars all through Ireland and Scotland.

Also, for some reason Irish never seems to have fragmented as much as, say, English. The different dialects along the western coast of Ireland are still mutually comprehensible.

Scottish Gaelic is now further removed, but they say it takes only about a week for an Irish speaker to learn Scots Gaelic or the reverse.

Patrick says

Also, for some reason Irish never seems to have fragmented as much as, say, English. The different dialects along the western coast of Ireland are still mutually comprehensible.

Odd, I remember from reading American history how Irish immigrants from County Cork could not understand Irish immigrants from County Galway. I will have to read up on that, as I find linguistics and ethnicities interesting.

HeadSet says

immigrants from County Cork could not understand Irish immigrants from County Galway. I will have to read up on that, as I find linguistics and ethnicities interesting.

I'm pretty sure that's not true. I've gotten a bit familiar with the three main dialects of Irish. They do use different phrases for some things and have somewhat different pronunciations, but I think on the whole it's mostly mutually comprehensible.

DonewithDebate says

Give globalists a free hand and there will be only one language in the world. Easier for elites... as indigenous cultures can be pesky and throw wrench in their communist control freak thinking.

That's a good point.

You know how they would usher in a single language - by slowly introducing the new language into all the old ones.

That was the principle thinking in newspeak in 1984 - the language was designed so you could only, for example, express a false dichotomies. We have that in politics - "the left" and "the right". If they are both authoritarian points of view, and you can only think in terms of these, you are stuck with authoritarianism.

Yeah well Fuck that Cock Sucker, I would bet every dollar I have in the bank that in the last 10 years. Every dime he gave went to funding Terrorist Communist Scumbags hell bent on taking down America.

We're at a point in our History where the Philanthropist are the mortal enemies of Democracy.

People please don't donate you money to establishment charities. If you want to do a good deed, give your duggie Nephew that $20 he keeps asking you for, but you never give him any money, because you know he will just go buy drugs or booze with it. But you're better off getting him high so he shuts the fuck up. Than letting George Soros get to him, to hire him to fling Shit and Piss bottles at the Good Cops, until they retire, so the commie mayors can them replace them with Communist Brown shirt thugs, that will gladly round up and shoot families not with the NWO agenda.
GIve the mother fucker a $20 and let him buy his damn crack rock. So the rest of us can get on with our lives! But don't give one fucking cent to any charity. Be your own charity and help people out that need it, if you don't have a scumbag nephew.

I would have enjoyed attending that, I think.

Wait what's wrong with a British flag, are you really that hateful against white people?
Say what you want about Empire expansion and the unjust treatment under their rule, years and fucking YEARS before you were ever born.
But you personally benefit from that today. If that never happened, one of the religions in India would have killed all of the rest, and India wouldn't have a single lightbulb on the entire Country. Britain gave India back their sovereignty and even gave everyone in their former colonies British Citizenship.
Some of the most powerful people in the world are now Indians, and have proved to be just as oppressive as any other Race or culture. Google went from Do no Evil to the most vile evil cock suckers in all of Techdom, under Indian leadership.

Tenpoundbass says

Wait what's wrong with a British flag, are you really that hateful against white people?

I'm not a fan of the British flag either.

Flying it in the Republic of Ireland would definitely cause problems.

I don't follow Oprah show cast and crew members.

So Diwali celebration is burning your ass now. HAHAHA. After superbowl there is mess all over the place, after soccer games there is mess, after july 4th celebration there is mess all over.

I am sure those are all Indian stores on that street and they will take care of it, or ask some "Dalit Chef" to clean it up. Your stupid narrative what is this Brahmanical culture you see in this celebration where every hindu and sikh celebrate together. I know Khalisthani sikhs hate it. They support only stubble burning.

DonewithDebate says

know Hindoo cult hates Sikhs for bringing "Khalsa Raj" and enabling Dalits as equals. We will have Dalits piss on your oppression based cult houses soon .

Is that the reason Khalsa killed a dalit in farmer protests. HAHAHA. your stupid narratives.

They also built a mosque on the Jewish temple in Jerusalem, and converted the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul into a mosque.

Those should also be reverted.

The Spanish also built a cathedral on the old Aztec death-temple in Mexico City where many had their living hearts cut out of them. But in that case, I don't think it would be good to revert.

Lol, thanks @DonewithDebate

Yes, Irish language is probably as different from English as Punjabi is from English.

DonewithDebate says

Sorry for ignorance.
I thought Irish and Scottish is very close to English.

No problem, almost everyone thinks that.

It's confusing because Scottish Gaelic is basically Irish Gaelic, but the Scots also have an old form of English, called "Scots". And most Irish and Scottish people speak English now as their daily language.

Maybe Punjab should be independent. I think if the clear majority of its population wants that, they should have the right to it.

Ireland did some kind of questionable things to grow its economy, like being a multi-national corporate tax haven. I wish they wouldn't do that, but it did benefit the people of Ireland - at the expense of tax revenue in other countries.

Patrick says

No problem, almost everyone thinks that.

Really? I thought the common perception was that Gaelic is very different from English, but everyone in Ireland and Scotland speak English as Irish/Scottish are dead languages. However, some effort is being made to resurrect Irish/Scottish for local pride.

Most people I talk to about it do not seem to know that the two Gaelic languages are utterly different from English.

Irish and Scottish Gaelic are not quite dead yet. About 50,000 people in Ireland still speak Irish as their first and primary language, mostly in remote areas on the western coast. And about a million people in Ireland have some bit of ability to communicate in Irish because of the schools. And one of their channels (TG4) does mostly Irish programming, with some pretty popular shows.

Scottish Gaelic is in worse shape, though even there they do have native speakers and a BBC show in Scottish Gaelic.

First I want to appologize for not seeing this, or responding to it earlier. The email feature didn't email me the thread. @Patrick.
I don't care to get notices about activity on threads, but if someone puts @tenpoundbass in their thread. I wouldn't mind getting an email.
If I don't have that person on ignore.

To answer your question, I don't know the demographic breakdown. And for what I advocate for, I wish like hell the Democrats that believe they are on the good side of the fight, and say they aren't commies, would do the same as well.
The objective there calls for.

a panel of independent and non-aligned direct democracy experts whose mission is to monitor and tabulate the voting in the non-governmental Punjab Independence Referendum.

The ones who counts the votes, are the ones who have access to the votes. So the quality of bipartisan tabulators are more important than the observers.
Observers are often nothing more than shills and touters for the crooked tabulators.

If you're talking about a region where fair and honest elections are impossible to start with. To have a referendum that will call for fair honest elections, if it passes.
Then one of two things happened. Either they had fair and honest elections all along, or it passed. Because the politicians that word these lengthy bills, bake in more corrupt election theft. Just look at what the Housecrats, and the Biden administration just tried to pass, while our elections are already on one knee trying to steady itself. They tried to federalize the elections, and mail a ballot to every human 18 years or older a ballot. The very mechanism that was exploited to steal our elections in the first place. They called fair elections act, or some nonsense name like that.

This is a referendum, that calls on the Government to then legislate the election results into legislation. And as Florida saw with the Medical Marijuana initiative Florida voted on and passed. The Florida legislation were then free to write a highly regulated law around it, so that we wouldn't become Colorado or California with wide open loose MJ laws.
Those that canvassed and pushed the initiative to the vote were all seriously Butthurt, because they all betted on opening a dispensary or growing operation. But instead the Legislators gave us a highly regulated medical MJ.

Don't put it past the India political apparati use the referendum to craft laws that run counter to the spirit of the initiative.

@tenpoundbass Did you get this comment in your email?

No

Tenpoundbass says

No

I had failed to add a reverse DNS record (PTR record) for my new IP address, but now I have one.

Did you get the "like" on your previous comment?

No but I have the option to not get notifications selected.
I do want email when someone puts my name with the @ in a thread though.

DonewithDebate says

What I worry is that it may be used as another way to taint community and cause harm.

I would be very wary of outside influences, that committee all look like Westerner names. I trust the most conservative regional zealots over Global Homos agitating and instigating destruction everywhere they go.

What happened, you were in so much awe of the maharastra govt just few months back. Now it is my cult hahaha. That is what happens when govt instead being hindu tries to appease islamists like you.

YT links not posting as playable videos is a feature, not a bug.

Thanks @FarmersWon this is good.

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London Mayor @SadiqKhan was asked about his Covid policies during open question night, instead of answering the reasonable question, security shoved and dragged the man out to silence him.

FarmersWon says

Prime minister of New Zealand stops press conference after being asked why the vaccine wasn’t working in Israel

I bet she was paid by Pfizer etc off just like Gladys Berejiklian was in Australia.

https://www.johnccarleton.org/BLOGGER/2021/10/12/bombshell-australias-gladys-berejiklian-was-bribed-blackmailed-by-big-pharma-to-impose-covid-vaccine-mandate/

All of the KommieKunt Covid corrupt pols act kind of nuts, but she is truly a step beyond. Of course, Dan Andrews in Australia is openly snorting drugs in public view before going in front of the microphones. He doesn't even care any more.

China is in a bad sorta way right now. You see after 2008, China stepped on the gas to continue its economic expansion. It was already losing manufacturing workers (yes, automation led to a loss of manufacturing employment in China too). Its populous didn't have the income to become a consumer based economy (the people are quite rich, but not from wages, but from ponzi scheme investments). Anyways, China finds itself in 2021 with about 26% of its economy devoted to construction. This compares to the US @ about 6.5% (it was about 7.3% in 2008 at the height of the housing bubble).

Real estate is generally massively debt financed. Just like what happened here in the States back in 2008, nobody is willing to loan any more money on Chinese construction projects. There are already trillions of $ of bad loans outstanding. China will try to paper over the financial losses, but a couple hundred million freshly unemployed construction workers is going to tear that country a new one unless the rest of society is willing to pay for them to do nothing.

There are no silver bullets to this problem.

Misc says

automation led to a loss of manufacturing employment in China too

Not just automation, but also outsourcing to yet cheaper places like Vietnam.

Karma.

Having 200 million unemployed by next year is not anything that is going to have a good impact on the rest of the world.

The shear amount of natural resources that flow to China to feed its construction is amazing.

As an example: Over 10% of Australia's GDP is taken up by mining. Most of this is exported to China. That is simply going to stop.

About 20% of Apple's sales take place in China. Expect sales to plummet there.

The world-wide repercussions are going to be enormous.

Not any kind of Karma people should be looking forward to.

Misc says

Not any kind of Karma people should be looking forward to.

Speak for yourself.

I have a serious problem with people's lack of civics. Do you have any idea how your tax money is spent? How about the cost of funding your local public school? Even the curriculum of it? What nations are being bombed by the United States? Do you know how money is created? Do you ever wonder why we are constantly forced to talk about race relations and do you know what the Overton Window is? The Overton Window is what defines polite conversation, it restricts conversation because if it's not constantly talked about - why discuss it?

I'm not trying to give you shit, I'm pointing out that it's not just the average person that doesn't pay attention, it's VAST MAJORITY of people who don't.

Ever seen some asshole on teeeveee arguing about whether the Iraqis are better or worse off from the war Bush lied us into, versus if that war never happened? Have you ever thought about talking to an Iraqi and asking their opinion - since they live with it? Even if they talked to an Iraqi, whoever it was would be giving the response they want. If you try to talk to one, it's been 20 years, so you're going to have to find somebody that is at least 50 for a reasoned answer. My experience 20 years ago, is I was hated for being an American, very hard to get them to talk because they hated me so much for being an American.

I used to talk to an Iranian, until out of fear for both him and me, I dropped off. Perhaps I was cowardly and was more afraid of my safety, but I did worry for his although I don't know if it was justified. I worried for his safety although I don't know if he was at risk talking to me, but I didn't want to put him and his family in danger - but I don't know if he was - that was the propaganda at the time.

We deserve what we get. Constant vigilance and all that. I really expected for people to be more curious and suspicious when I was in my 20's.

FarmersWon says

I see that many Americans are worried about China.
China will be significant player, But it won't displace US as leader.

This is dangerous thinking, and dominates most US government. We have been selling Communists our best equipment for decades. And what we haven't sold them, they've stolen. There's a quote that's something like we will sell them the rope they will hang us with.

NuttBoxer says

This is dangerous thinking, and dominates most US government. We have been selling Communists our best equipment for decades. And what we haven't sold them, they've stolen. There's a quote that's something like we will sell them the rope they will hang us with.

China also owns Biden, owns a big stake in US media, and can threaten companies like the NBA and Disney. We cannot even call the new strain of Covid the next in sequence nomenclature "Xi" Variant.

FarmersWon says

In communications sector(5G infrastructure etc.)

China beat the United States to 5G deployment.

That's why there was all the conspiracy nonsense about 5G is going to kill everybody - it was to stall China's sales. It's as simple as that.,

aren't you funny. UK should allow illegal sikhs but US should not allow legal hindus.

FarmersWon says

Sikhs are refugees.. Big difference.

Really its been what 38 yrs since 3000 sikhs killed. And you guys still claim Refugee status. HAHAHA.

You keep complaining about this triangle. Can you explain what does that triangle represent?

And your lies about Jatt being peasants that is sudras is a lie. There are Jatt kings.