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114635   Reality   2021 Oct 18, 12:44pm  

BoomAndBustCycle says
Like if an isolated tribe somewhere all the men wore dresses and cooked and the females hunted and fought…. You would say their gender roles swapped from the norm. So in that sense gender is fluid based on societal standards and external factors.


LOL! Their men would have been cooking the dead bodies of their women till there was none left to cook. The tribe would have disappeared before being discovered by the outside world. Did you learn physics by postulating a universe where gravity is negative (i.e. a repulsive force)? and Action brings no Reaction? a universe that is purely random and no causality?
114636   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 12:51pm  

The pictures being shared are clownish couples and they can exist in both gay and gayless people.
The reason can be mental condition or under influence of money/propaganda to promote this idiocy.

But gays can be normal couples like hetros. A normal indvidual who accepts gays as equals will always promote this kind of gay couples then the clownish ones.
If gays want they can also find worst crazy hetro couples and do some propaganda with them.

By the way some of the people who seems to have negative view of "gay culture" also seem to not like woman too much either.
So who do they plan to be partner with?... "HATE"?


https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dutch-couples-mark-20th-anniversary-world-s-first-same-sex-n1262753

114637   WookieMan   2021 Oct 18, 12:55pm  

BoomAndBustCycle says
But genders definition is evolving to be more about social constructs and norms of a sex. Like if an isolated tribe somewhere all the men wore dresses and cooked and the females hunted and fought…. You would say their gender roles swapped from the norm. So in that sense gender is fluid based on societal standards and external factors.

Nope. Genders aren't about roles. If women hunted and I cooked it, give me that life. Women can in fact do it, at least the good ones. Gets problematic when they're prego. That's why the traditional roles exist. 3-6 months during pregnancy women are useless. This is fact. Then there's caring for the kid. If you have 2, they're literally taking care of them for 2-4 years before they can back off.

Women have children. It's not a "construct." It's reality. Women cannot hunt and gather a solid portion of their life. It's not about being men or masculine, we just can't give birth. Follow the science.
114638   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 1:03pm  

WookieMan says
BoomAndBustCycle says
But genders definition is evolving to be more about social constructs and norms of a sex. Like if an isolated tribe somewhere all the men wore dresses and cooked and the females hunted and fought…. You would say their gender roles swapped from the norm. So in that sense gender is fluid based on societal standards and external factors.

Nope. Genders aren't about roles. If women hunted and I cooked it, give me that life. Women can in fact do it, at least the good ones. Gets problematic when they're prego. That's why the traditional roles exist. 3-6 months during pregnancy women are useless. This is fact. Then there's caring for the kid. If you have 2, they're literally taking care of them for 2-4 years before they can back off.

Women have children. It's not a "construct." It's reality. Women cannot hunt and gather a solid portion of their life. It's not abo...


This is good statement and reflects the nature of the game before industrialization.
Now it is possible to have a single mother or single father.. So roles are ought to change.. But saying females and males are same gender is not reflected by reality.
114639   Ceffer   2021 Oct 18, 1:08pm  

I have had gay neighbors in every place I have been in California. Several now in Santa Cruz. As a rule, they have always been exemplary neighbors. One exception was across the way in Santa Cruz, where a nasty piece of work, addicted gay man had a mentally incapacitated gay man living with him. The mentally incapacitated one would stand up in homeowner's meetings and talk about the thousands of men he had sex with, because the evil addicted gay man pimped him out as a male hustler. Their place has always been a crack house type hovel, which is the exception because all other gays have been meticulous in their home maintenance.

The older one died of a stroke last year, leaving the mentally incapacitated one in the house. Homeowner's finally got his parents to move him along into care, and the house (which he destroyed with insane shit) is blissfully being gutted for rebuilding as I type this.

Social services gave him a cell phone, which he was apparently using for liaisons. My wife and I came back from a walk last year to see him on the street at the entrance of the hood wearing a pleated skirt (like parochial school girls) and flouncing it up and down to show his junk to traffic while he danced along the sidewalk. El supremo bizzarre. He would go off meds and throw stuff at his neighbors house, had a restraining order. People would use him to harass neighbors by telling him that somebody wanted a worker or something to go up to their doors to rave.

He had his own Downton Abbey in the house for a while with his parents and social services coming by all the time to take care of him. Thank the higher powers he is gone now. They said his parents left him on an overheated car as a child and found him comatose but alive. Strangely, his older brother is a scientist and professor at Caltech working for JPL in Pasadena.
114640   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2021 Oct 18, 1:11pm  

BoomAndBustCycle says
Gender is fluid like most things in life and you fall on a scale. You might be 99.9% into the opposite sex or as low as .001%. Then societal norms, consistent behavior to endorse attraction to one sex or another or abuse comes in a pushes that percentage up or down somewhat. Like everything in life… rarely is anything black and white.


This is a hefty load of absolute bullshit. Much like claims that children can’t die from Covid(and the protestations to the contrary that in fact .001% of children have died from Covid), the claims of gender fluidity encompassing all adults, when about 85% of adults fall in a very small range of sexual spectrum and the other 15% are heavily emotionally traumatized, rings so hollow.
114641   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2021 Oct 18, 1:14pm  

BoomAndBustCycle says
Bd6r says
BoomAndBustCycle says
Gender is fluid

XX
XY
not fluid at all according to SCIENCE! which seems to be ignored these days.



I guess it depends on your definition of gender. If you don’t consider SEX and GENDER to be exact synonyms. When you refer to chromosomes it’s XX and XY. But genders definition is evolving to be more about social constructs and norms of a sex. Like if an isolated tribe somewhere all the men wore dresses and cooked and the females hunted and fought…. You would say their gender roles swapped from the norm. So in that sense gender is fluid based on societal standards and external factors.


Except this isn’t true. Gender has a super specific meaning amoung humans and just because recently some emotionally traumatized individuals have decided that changing word meanings will make them happy(lol) doesn’t actually mean the definitions have changed.
114642   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 1:18pm  

He will be minister/top-politician in Hindooo land soon. Hindooo upper circle is full of thugs.

https://twitter.com/RaviSinghKA/status/1450067293174702089
This anti Sikh thug has been deported back to India ! Thank you Australia !
114643   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2021 Oct 18, 1:19pm  

DonewithDebate says
The pictures being shared are clownish couples and they can exist in both gay and gayless people.
The reason can be mental condition or under influence of money/propaganda to promote this idiocy.

But gays can be normal couples like hetros. A normal indvidual who accepts gays as equals will always promote this kind of gay couples then the clownish ones.
If gays want they can also find worst crazy hetro couples and do some propaganda with them.

By the way some of the people who seems to have negative view of "gay culture" also seem to not like woman too much either.
So who do they plan to be partner with?... "HATE"?


https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/dutch-couples-mark-20th-anniversary-world-s-first-same-sex-n1262753



I don’t disagree with you. Except so many gay people Can’t conform to that lifestyle(which would still be fine if they didn’t break laws…usually drugs)…and didn’t attempt to push an agenda onto the rest of us. They also might considering seeking out the reasons for the why of their behavior rather than therapy that only affirms the behavior and attempts to build self esteem out of nothing.
114644   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 1:24pm  

All support to followers of Bharti religions oppressed by Islamic violent cults.

https://twitter.com/RaviSinghKA/status/1450014150701289475
We are children of Guru Tegh Bahader ji. We will always protect the right to worship of all.
114645   Automan Empire   2021 Oct 18, 1:24pm  

DonewithDebate says
porkchopexpress says
Because being gay is gay


Being not gay is gayless.


It's a joke/idiom you didn't get because you're not familiar enough with the culture. Easy mistake to make. Don't compound it by trying to read more into it than it was, a "low hanging fruit" joke. (That is, itself, a cheap pun that may induce an infinite regression loop in the non-native reader... sorry.)
114646   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 1:26pm  

It already started. Hindooo is so transparent.
They should have waited few days for their agent to lie low.. But in lawless Hindooo land who cares.

https://twitter.com/RaviSinghKA/status/1450002241092468736
This is #VishalJood ! He attacked Sikhs in #Australia ! He was charged and deported to India.

He received a heroes welcome in India! It seems that those who attack Sikhs become heroes ! This is a huge insult to all Sikhs & justice system! Absolute disgrace !
Video: @ashoswai
114647   Tenpoundbass   2021 Oct 18, 1:39pm  

DonewithDebate says
I have noticed on a site that people seems really against homosexual folks.. Why is that?



You're noticing wrong, plenty of people in those very conversations you're noticing have announced countless times that they are gay.
Nobody on this site has any hostility or ill will toward gay people. We all unanimously, even the gay Paneters, despise and loath, Commie fuck face Fag boys, that want to turn our kids, and demand SCOTUS mandates an audience with Hetero White Males to watch them sodomize each other, and dare us all to fucking flinch ONCE! They will sick Merick Garland and Pencil Neck Schiff on us, to haul us in for a congressional hearing faster than you can say "Fuck that SHIT!".

It's not gay people we have a problem with, it's mentally ill people that use homosexuality to Massage their psychosis.
114648   Bd6r   2021 Oct 18, 1:41pm  

BoomAndBustCycle says
I guess it depends on your definition of gender. If you don’t consider SEX and GENDER to be exact synonyms. When you refer to chromosomes it’s XX and XY. But genders definition is evolving to be more about social constructs and norms of a sex. Like if an isolated tribe somewhere all the men wore dresses and cooked and the females hunted and fought…. You would say their gender roles swapped from the norm. So in that sense gender is fluid based on societal standards and external factors.

Gender=sex. Everything else is Newspeak, which is re-defining everything to fit today's ideological needs.

http://www.webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/gender

2. A sex, male or female. Hence,

3. In grammar, a difference in words to express distinction of sex; usually a difference of termination in nouns, adjectives and participles, to express the distinction of male and female. But although this was the original design of different terminations, yet in the progress of language, other words having no relation to one sex or the other, came to have genders assigned them by custom. Words expressing males are said to be of the masculine gender; those expressing females, of the feminine gender; and in some languages, words expressing things having no sex, are of the neuter or neither gender
114649   BoomAndBustCycle   2021 Oct 18, 1:48pm  

Reality says
BoomAndBustCycle says
Like if an isolated tribe somewhere all the men wore dresses and cooked and the females hunted and fought…. You would say their gender roles swapped from the norm. So in that sense gender is fluid based on societal standards and external factors.


LOL! Their men would have been cooking the dead bodies of their women till there was none left to cook. The tribe would have disappeared before being discovered by the outside world. Did you learn physics by postulating a universe where gravity is negative (i.e. a repulsive force)? and Action brings no Reaction? a universe that is purely random and no causality?


Ok maybe the tribe analogy was poor… men have greater strength cause of bone density and testosterone. But there’s very little need for hyper aggression in modern society unless we are at war and even then future wars will be fought with robots. So humans moving toward a less gender specific society is natural to our evolution. Do robots have genders? Humans will eventually evolve to be cyborgs…. That seems obvious. In a couple more generations we will have artificial eyes, organs, chip implants, and socialize in the metaverse.
114650   Bd6r   2021 Oct 18, 1:50pm  

BoomAndBustCycle says
Do robots have genders?

We should consult Rin about this one.
I agree with sentiment though. The PROBLEM here is that our brains have evolved for last 100K years in a specific way, and if environment, needs, and attitudes change too fast, we are fucked mentally. If we go back to traditional societies, the incidence of Alzheimers/senility was much lower than what we have now (there was a paper which I have lost, they looked at this in Chechen society where old people are in charge of everything and there is very little senility), when men these days become feminine, womyn don't like it, are unhappy and go on antidepressants, boys acting as boys is also bad and they are put on ritalin, etc.
114651   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 1:55pm  

Tenpoundbass says
DonewithDebate says
I have noticed on a site that people seems really against homosexual folks.. Why is that?



You're noticing wrong, plenty of people in those very conversations you're noticing have announced countless times that they are gay.
Nobody on this site has any hostility or ill will toward gay people. We all unanimously, even the gay Paneters, despise and loath, Commie fuck face Fag boys, that want to turn our kids, and demand SCOTUS mandates an audience with Hetero White Males to watch them sodomize each other, and dare us all to fucking flinch ONCE! They will sick Merick Garland and Pencil Neck Schiff on us, to haul us in for a congressional hearing faster than you can say "Fuck that SHIT!".

It's not gay people we have a problem with, it's mentally ill people that use homosexuality to Massage their psychosis.


Its best to attack the root cause. Why use gay lifestyle to attack them?
If not gay, They will find something else to oppress us ... why waste energy on moving target?

We should not attack common people like us who just want to live good life and not bother anyone.
114652   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 1:58pm  

Automan Empire says
DonewithDebate says
porkchopexpress says
Because being gay is gay


Being not gay is gayless.


It's a joke/idiom you didn't get because you're not familiar enough with the culture. Easy mistake to make. Don't compound it by trying to read more into it than it was, a "low hanging fruit" joke. (That is, itself, a cheap pun that may induce an infinite regression loop in the non-native reader... sorry.)

It is still fun exercise this way.
114653   Reality   2021 Oct 18, 2:00pm  

BoomAndBustCycle says
Ok maybe the tribe analogy was poor… men have greater strength cause of bone density and testosterone. But there’s very little need for hyper aggression in modern society unless we are at war and even then future wars will be fought with robots. So humans moving toward a less gender specific society is natural to our evolution. Do robots have genders? Humans will eventually evolve to be cyborgs…. That seems obvious. In a couple more generations we will have artificial eyes, organs, chip implants, and socialize in the metaverse.


On the contrary: as beta males are replaced by technological implements, reproduction-minded women are more attracted to the few alpha males exhibiting more cues of traditional maleness (look at the massive growth of physical workout industry in recent years); at the same time the high opportunity cost of "wonder women" type take them out of reproduction and gene pool, so only feminine females will be reproducing. The gender roles will be more polarized as a result, not "merging." BTW, that process in and of itself can be a problem in the long run: the "wonder women" type taking the two high IQ X-chromosomes out of the gene pool much quicker than even if high-IQ men stop producing (one high-IQ X-chromosome at a time). So it will take a societal collapse, forcing almost all women back into the kitchen and home, before the gene pool can be restocked.
114654   Tenpoundbass   2021 Oct 18, 2:08pm  

DonewithDebate says
Why use gay lifestyle to attack them?


Are you parsing the shit you type before you post it?

The "Lifestyle" part of "Gay Lifestyle" is EXACTLY what we are attacking and riling about.
Lifestyle is the biggest crock of shit, it's more word salad the commies used to destroy our way of life.
People have been gay forever, people either knew, or they didn't. The Lifestyle shit, is the part where they are demanding an audience.
The fucked up Liberals have been trying to goad America for decades with the Gay Lifestyles bullshit. Since and before Harvey Milk. Harvey's fucking problem was he didn't want people to accept him, he wanted America to praise him.
114655   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2021 Oct 18, 2:08pm  

DonewithDebate says
I have noticed on a site that people seems really against homosexual folks.. Why is that?


Couple of corrections and an explanation:

It's not hate or phobia(fear), it's disgust of homosexual lifestyle choices and it's marketing. And it's not just this website, it's entire world outside of gay Meccas like San Francisco.

The media poses a valid question often "they are just doing it at home, why does this bother you?". The answer is simple. They don't keep their choices to home. They market it and promote it to others, especially young children. Just see Hollywood and all US media lately, constant gay everything, can't make a movie now without some gay propaganda in it. People aren't even allowed to criticize gays, like the new holiness of some sort. Most importantly look at public schools, in CA they have 2 month to celebrate, yes celebrate, gays. October is LGBT history month with parades, and of course June is another LGBT celebration month. No accomplishments here, only negatives to people spreading aids and targeting other peoples children to convert them into gayness. Most people don't want this shit for their kids, they want to keep as far away from these perverts as possible.

History in fact has periods where entire societies collapsed because they allowed unchecked homosexuality and promiscuity. Many people know that history. Yet, these historical lessons are ignored now a days. So of course people hate being forced into failure, to watch their children be propagandized into homosexuality, because it only leads to failure at the end.
114656   Booger   2021 Oct 18, 2:10pm  

114657   Tenpoundbass   2021 Oct 18, 2:12pm  

I'll put it this way.

I loved my Parents, but I never wanted to see them fuck, or promote their sexual situations to the world and expect they watching intently riveted to their seats.

It's possible to like and brotherly love a gay person, but still not give three shits about what they do with their junk, and demand not be told about. It's OK to ridicule and be grossed out by people butt fucking. The same way it's creepy and gross to ponder your mom and dad fucking on hot steamy night.
114658   fdhfoiehfeoi   2021 Oct 18, 2:22pm  

What comments lead you to believe that patnetters are against fags, and not just against queer lifestyle? These are not mutually exclusive. You can hate the sin, but love the sinner.
114659   PerfectlyFlawed   2021 Oct 18, 2:25pm  

Oh no, Harvey Milk - I have a problem even believing that name is real. Sounds so made up its absurd.
114660   NDrLoR   2021 Oct 18, 2:36pm  

PerfectlyFlawed says
Harvey Milk
was a huge advocate for and supporter of the Rev. Jim Jones, bought into all his leftist BS.
114661   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 4:06pm  

Tenpoundbass says
DonewithDebate says
Why use gay lifestyle to attack them?


Are you parsing the shit you type before you post it?

The "Lifestyle" part of "Gay Lifestyle" is EXACTLY what we are attacking and riling about.
Lifestyle is the biggest crock of shit, it's more word salad the commies used to destroy our way of life.
People have been gay forever, people either knew, or they didn't. The Lifestyle shit, is the part where they are demanding an audience.
The fucked up Liberals have been trying to goad America for decades with the Gay Lifestyles bullshit. Since and before Harvey Milk. Harvey's fucking problem was he didn't want people to accept him, he wanted America to praise him.


I already said that I think sexuality should be personal. I remember George Bush and his criminal globalists were riling conservatives against "gay" people.
This has been going for long time and some of the Gay response is due to anti-gay people. Using gay people as scapegoat to pass other criminal agenda has been quite common.

But I do agree that over the top advertisement of your sexual lifestyle is wrong, But It is done to create divisions by unhappy people(like sex starved priests and man hating feminist women) and likely also for profit.
114663   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 4:10pm  

Tenpoundbass says
I'll put it this way.

I loved my Parents, but I never wanted to see them fuck, or promote their sexual situations to the world and expect they watching intently riveted to their seats.

It's possible to like and brotherly love a gay person, but still not give three shits about what they do with their junk, and demand not be told about. It's OK to ridicule and be grossed out by people butt fucking. The same way it's creepy and gross to ponder your mom and dad fucking on hot steamy night.


How does it matter what someone does in his bedroom as long as he/she is not overtly hostile to our lifestyle.
The problem with Islamic cults like Hindooo and Wahabbi is that they think others are infidels and needs to be coerced to follow their lifestyle... If not for that they can live their faith of fantasy who cares..
114664   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 4:12pm  

FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut says
It's not hate or phobia(fear), it's disgust of homosexual lifestyle choices and it's marketing. And it's not just this website, it's entire world outside of gay Meccas like San Francisco.


I can agree with that.. Over the top marketing and coercion nobody likes.
But gays are not alone in this.

I have posed this question before ... Do You want Christians to keep Christmas home? ... I love Christmas and want everybody to celebrate it even as Sikh and look forward for events whole year.
114665   RC2006   2021 Oct 18, 4:49pm  

To me gay parades are a great example. They'll have a parade wearing dildos, bareback chaps, and all sorts of degenerate shit. Everything is about sex and they also involve children and expose themselves infront of children. You don't see gay parades with just normal people walking around just being happy it's always sexualized in the most disgusting possible way. Even when they walk in a forth of July parade it's about them and being gay not the 4th or whatever they impose themselves onto.
114666   Tenpoundbass   2021 Oct 18, 6:04pm  

DonewithDebate says
How does it matter what someone does in his bedroom as long as he/she is not overtly hostile to our lifestyle.


There's no such thing as lifestyle, it's all just propaganda. The American White Heterosexual Male is a lifestyle and it's being classified as a terrorist ideology.

Shove that lifestyle shit up your ass, and go fuck a rope. Don't you go conflating Christmas with fag shit, or you lose the argument straight away.
You might want to tell your Soros handler Patnet is going to be a tough nut to crack. Da faq you say some bullshit!
114667   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 6:16pm  

Tenpoundbass says
DonewithDebate says
How does it matter what someone does in his bedroom as long as he/she is not overtly hostile to our lifestyle.


There's no such thing as lifestyle, it's all just propaganda. The American White Heterosexual Male is a lifestyle and it's being classified as a terrorist ideology.

Shove that lifestyle shit up your ass, and go fuck a rope. Don't you go conflating Christmas with fag shit, or you lose the argument straight away.
You might want to tell your Soros handler Patnet is going to be a tough nut to crack. Da faq you say some bullshit!


When will you learn that I will say what I like irrespective of How unhinged you get.
Yes in corporate, schools and what not, Atheists are raising objections about celebrating Christmas or any religious events.
I don't want them to be cancelled. Reasonable gay or other events are OK as long as traditional festivals survive.

"Tolerance" is two way street.
I am free man, You do have "Trump's dick" your ass.
114668   Tenpoundbass   2021 Oct 18, 6:21pm  

You know I asked all of the dot heads at the corner store if the Hindoos are genocideing the Sinks.
They told me it was just one big ole love fest over in India, save for a few but hurt extremist Muslims, Hindoos, Sinks they cause trouble for everyone.
114669   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 6:26pm  

Tenpoundbass says
You know I asked all of the dot heads at the corner store if the Hindoos are genocideing the Sinks.
They told me it was just one big ole love fest over in India, save for a few but hurt extremist Muslims, Hindoos, Sinks they cause trouble for everyone.


Bharat lacks sinks and toilets.
114670   Allin   2021 Oct 18, 6:29pm  

"They'll have a parade wearing dildos, bareback chaps, and all sorts of degenerate shit. Everything is about sex and they also involve children and expose themselves in front of children."

This is why it does matter what two people do in the bedroom. Once they are allowed freedom, homosexuals are not content to keep their proclivities secret. As is manifestly evident in this country, they actively seek to corrupt others either into either joining their lifestyle or approving their activities.
114671   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 6:40pm  

Leaving @Tenpoundbass aside(He is always riding directionless horse), There is a real danger of "traditional" stuff getting canceled if we don't take appropriate steps.
One step we can take is to give marginalized groups some space so that they don't become weapons in hands of lefties.

https://wsbt.com/news/local/atheist-group-files-complaint-after-warsaw-school-reads-christmas-stories-to-students
Atheist group files complaint after school allegedly reads Christmas stories to students

https://decisionmagazine.com/kansas-school-cancels-operation-christmas-child-effort-after-atheist-complaint/
Kansas School Cancels Operation Christmas Child Effort After Atheist Complaint

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/using-merry-christmas-or-happy-holidays-no-longer-about-putting-ncna1106181
Using Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays is no longer about putting a stranger at ease
The primary function of both greetings now is to characterize the speaker, serving as a badge of group identification.
114672   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 6:56pm  

Allin says
"They'll have a parade wearing dildos, bareback chaps, and all sorts of degenerate shit. Everything is about sex and they also involve children and expose themselves in front of children."

This is why it does matter what two people do in the bedroom. Once they are allowed freedom, homosexuals are not content to keep their proclivities secret. As is manifestly evident in this country, they actively seek to corrupt others either into either joining their lifestyle or approving their activities.


Deviant lifestyle is not contained to Homos. It is spread in various segments of society including their parades.
90% of porn is heterosexual .. with weird corrupting themes.

All sex should be personal no matter what. Priests and lefties can duke out their "hetero vs homo" in contained area invisible from general public. They can have pay-per-view.
114673   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 10:06pm  

https://twitter.com/mandeeppunia1/status/1450285909702680579
Nihang chief may have been part of efforts to end stir

आज द ट्रिब्यून ने इस मामले में रिपोर्ट की है, पढ़ी जाए,
114674   FarmersWon   2021 Oct 18, 10:06pm  

Divisive Hindooo cult is dirty and inhumane.

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