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It's interesting that Russia could have attacked the Ukrainian electrical grid earlier but did not. Why not?

Patrick says

Why not?

I think they thought they could change the government in Kiev without having to destroy the country.

I don't think they can persuade the rest of Ukraine to given in, so that is why they are slowly destroy it.

Maybe they want to create a desolate and barren land from Poland to the Russian-occupied regions.

Drive out the dissenters (Ukrainian nationals) who will be refugees in western Ukraine or even Poland, Germany, etc.
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Patrick says

It's interesting that Russia could have attacked the Ukrainian electrical grid earlier but did not. Why not?

Russia has been following the rules of war. Hitting a country's infrastructure violates one of the rules. However, when the Ukrainians attacked the Crimea bridge, the Ukrainians violated the rule. This freed Russia to attack the Ukrainian infrastructure. The Russians have not gone berserk over the matter. Instead, they are being "measured" in their response.

Misc says

Russia has been following the rules of war.

I was under the impression that war has no rules. "All is fair in love and war."

I know there are some formal agreements, but that seems kind of silly. War is by definition an out of control situation where people are trying to kill each other and impose their will by force. It's not like there is some higher court you can go and complain to, and least not one that has the power to do anything.

Most countries are signatories to the Geneva Conventions (the rules of war).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions

And who enforces the Geneva Conventions?

Patrick says

And who enforces the Geneva Conventions?

The winner.

...but generally there is an international uproar when the rules are violated. That's why other countries aren't really speaking out against Russia targeting Ukraine's infrastructure now. Everyone not in the conflict clearly sees the Ukraine started this escalation.

I called this in advance of Russia's actions here:

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So, just to be clear from how the rest of the world views this.

Intentionally attacking infrastructure is against the rules of war. Ukraine violated this rule. Hence, Russia is now free to destroy Ukraine's infrastructure.

Nothing good will come from this.

With as much crap as Colin Powell did, he did try to contain and stop the genocide in Darfur.

He got the US to get the UN involved in stopping the genocide, but the incidents weren't really covered by the international press...so the effort sorta petered out.

https://worldwithoutgenocide.org/genocides-and-conflicts/darfur-genocide

It's like a gangster movie, with USA-NATO gangster pushing Ukraine gangster's face into a meat grinder and calling it an alliance.

Patrick says

It's interesting that Russia could have attacked the Ukrainian electrical grid earlier but did not. Why not?

Optics for one, and they don't want to destroy the nation for another.

They want to remove the US puppets. Killing the citizenry and causing them hardship creates enmity, there is no gain in that. That have to APPEAR to be engaging in restraint. It's mostly optics.

If Russia really wanted to win this war, they could do it with a nuclear weapon in Kiev tomorrow - the problem with doing this is that it would greatly escalate tensions and change the dynamics of how people view Russia. Russia would become "the bad guy" overnight, in nearly everybody's eyes. A lot of war is psychological, or really, sociological. It's important what entire populations think.

Patrick says

I was under the impression that war has no rules. "All is fair in love and war."

The rules of war are unwritten.

If you can, you win over the population and turn it against their own government. Wars are between governments 99% of the time, and at least 90% of the population just wants to be left alone.

Really, all violence is done by criminals or is a reaction toward criminal activity. If Russia was a BETTER country with less criminals in it (let's PRETEND none), the Ukraine people would have welcomed Russia as liberators, PROVIDED they knew Russia was criminal free. Of course it's not.

This is why it's important to lead by example. The US had this position for a point of time, they were REGARDED as being a benevolent, relatively free of corruption, nation in 1950 after WWII - right or wrong. Iran emulated us, Afghanistan emulated us, many nations did. Our nation back-stabbed them of course. At one point, we were genuinely regarded as liberators. 70 years ago. That's the place to be.

Today, we are told by our propaganda press that's how we are regarded, when we're not. Up until the 1990's Americans regarded themselves this way, but by 2000, that was over. We set up Saddam Hussein with "incubators being stolen", and with telling Hussein he could attack Kuwait without consequence with April Glaspie. The rest of the world knew we were lying by that time. Iran already was calling us "the Great Satan" for overthrowing their nation in 1953. Gautamala didn't forget Operation PBSuccess. The only few people that think US intervention is a good thing, are really ignorant Americans, and there's less and less of them by the day.

I would like us to return to leading by example, and not lying about it.

I'm just not seeing anything here. If anything, it's pretty damned sad the Ruskies haven't pushed way NW of Donetsk and the airport by now on Day 220+

The only thing keeping Zelensky in power is our CIA. They are taking out the Ukies that want to oust him before they are able to do anything. Ordinary Ukies know that the West doesn't want them to win, otherwise they would be providing F16s and Abrams tanks. The soldiers know they are just being sacrificed so that a few more Russians will die. The Western media isn't showing the lines of Ukies fleeing the country again.

It's illegal to possess or distribute child porn.

@indc
I just needed to ask when is Hindoo cult leaving west due to Beef mother and india mother insult.
Would Hindooo chose dollars or Beef mother?

Now a lawyer is saying that Hindooo cult killed own to blame/defame Sikhs.. Wondering if Hindooo will sue?.. Hindooo crimes needs to be exposed.

All gurus are devotees of only Akal Purakh. Stop bringing stone workshop to Sikhi.

Add Hindoo father insult too. The pedophile father of Hindooo cult is insulted everywhere.

Found this article about some truly horrific crimes, human sacrifice, extreme torture and dismemberment, and cannibalism. Very sick stuff. This psychopath got a normal Indian couple with a failing business to agree to some really sick rituals for promise of business success.

https://nypost.com/2022/10/13/indian-witch-doctor-couple-eat-women-in-sacrifice-cops/

FarmersWon says

@indc
I just needed to ask when is Hindoo cult leaving west due to Beef mother and india mother insult.
Would Hindooo chose dollars or Beef mother?

Now a lawyer is saying that Hindooo cult killed own to blame/defame Sikhs.. Wondering if Hindooo will sue?.. Hindooo crimes needs to be exposed.

All gurus are devotees of only Akal Purakh. Stop bringing stone workshop to Sikhi.

All Hindoo have to move to India once you get Khalistan in Kanada. So you dont have to ask me again and again. And hope you got your answer. So how is your "mother" country dream?

Shaman says

Found this article about some truly horrific crimes, human sacrifice, extreme torture and dismemberment, and cannibalism. Very sick stuff. This psychopath got a normal Indian couple with a failing business to agree to some really sick rituals for promise of business success.

https://nypost.com/2022/10/13/indian-witch-doctor-couple-eat-women-in-sacrifice-cops/

Thank you for sharing @Shaman, Just shows why you abrahamics try to change the narrative. If you even bother to read the article is shows stupid hindus who blindly believe Abhrahamics because of secularism. It was a Muslim guy who killed them and suddenly he becomes "Indian". Do you know why @FarmersWon did not share this news? Bastard Abrahamics and their bastard narrative building.

@Shaman, here is a news you should actually look at from India and which is very familiar to chatholics all over the world.

https://twitter.com/LegalLro/status/1580533791184912384

We r stunned!
CP @Navimumpolice
avoided press scheduled by himself!
Pentecostal #Christian Yesudasan n his ally Ambarish Patnigere DyCommissioner @NMMConline
have friends all over!
Bombay HC judges let victims girls shift, Police let S*x racket run, top lawyers defending accused!

This all happened under rule of a govt which was praised by @FarmerWon.

indc says

FarmersWon says

@indc
I just needed to ask when is Hindoo cult leaving west due to Beef mother and india mother insult.
Would Hindooo chose dollars or Beef mother?

Now a lawyer is saying that Hindooo cult killed own to blame/defame Sikhs.. Wondering if Hindooo will sue?.. Hindooo crimes needs to be exposed.

All gurus are devotees of only Akal Purakh. Stop bringing stone workshop to Sikhi.

All Hindoo have to move to India once you get Khalistan in Kanada. So you dont have to ask me again and again. And hope you got your answer. So how is your "mother" country dream?

@indc
Sikhs are not creating Khalistan but NATO lead by USA is.
When are Hindooo leaving all NATO countries to protest against whites eating their BEEF mother and CIA breaking their India mother?

Dollar or BEEF mother.. Clear choice?
Or Hindoo is only good at beating poor minorities.

indc says

@Shaman, here is a news you should actually look at from India and which is very familiar to chatholics all over the world.

https://twitter.com/LegalLro/status/1580533791184912384

We r stunned!
CP @Navimumpolice
avoided press scheduled by himself!
Pentecostal #Christian Yesudasan n his ally Ambarish Patnigere DyCommissioner @NMMConline
have friends all over!
Bombay HC judges let victims girls shift, Police let S*x racket run, top lawyers defending accused!

This all happened under rule of a govt which was praised by @FarmerWon.

I am not fan of your Wahabbi cousins .. Both Hindooo and Wahabi are violent cults of Islam.
@indc I have cleared this many times but doesn’t get in your head.
Sikhs can only align with Christians, Jains or Buddhists religiously.

US have air bases there .. throw some bombs before leaving.

Don't worry about the last person shutting the lights off. Bomb it into rubble after the last Taiwanese worker leaves it.

FarmersWon says

indc says

@Shaman, here is a news you should actually look at from India and which is very familiar to chatholics all over the world.

https://twitter.com/LegalLro/status/1580533791184912384

We r stunned!
CP @Navimumpolice
avoided press scheduled by himself!
Pentecostal #Christian Yesudasan n his ally Ambarish Patnigere DyCommissioner @NMMConline
have friends all over!
Bombay HC judges let victims girls shift, Police let S*x racket run, top lawyers defending accused!

This all happened under rule of a govt which was praised by @FarmerWon.

I am not fan of your Wahabbi cousins .. Both Hindooo and Wahabi are violent cults of Islam.
@indc I have cleared this many times but doesn’t get in your head.
Sikhs can only align with Christians, J...

Hey dum* F. This news is about christians not muslims.

FarmersWon says

indc says

FarmersWon says

@indc
I just needed to ask when is Hindoo cult leaving west due to Beef mother and india mother insult.
Would Hindooo chose dollars or Beef mother?

Now a lawyer is saying that Hindooo cult killed own to blame/defame Sikhs.. Wondering if Hindooo will sue?.. Hindooo crimes needs to be exposed.

All gurus are devotees of only Akal Purakh. Stop bringing stone workshop to Sikhi.

All Hindoo have to move to India once you get Khalistan in Kanada. So you dont have to ask me again and again. And hope you got your answer. So how is your "mother" country dream?

@indc
Sikhs are not creating Khalistan but NATO lead by USA is.
When are Hindooo leaving all NATO countries to protest against whites eating their BEEF mother and CIA breaking ...

How many times I have to explain to you Once Nato creates Khalisthan in Kanada or europe, You will turn them into 3rd world shit-hole and Hindoos will take all the dollars looted from them over 2 centuries and go back to India.

indc says

How many times I have to explain to you Once Nato creates Khalisthan in Kanada or europe, You will turn them into 3rd world shit-hole and Hindoos will take all the dollars looted from them over 2 centuries and go back to India.

I know that typical Hindooo have no concept of international law and territorial rights , But may be You can listen to non-Hindoos rather than look stupid every time.
Israel was created on a land where Jews had some rights, So is for other communities.
UN will gives Sikhs the land they have rightS on.

Repeating this nonsense make Hindooo look silly and get Hindoo a jab "cow piss drinkers and dick worshipers".. They degrade themselves to this.. Nobody else's fault.

Looks like Hindooo not leaving west to protest NATO against Khalistan support and eating BEEF mother.
Too much dollar love, Who cares about BEEF mother beyond killing poor minorities.

@indc
When is Hindooo cult suing lawyer for giving all the proof that Air India plane was blown by Hindooo cult.
No guts to face the truth?
It will be presented to UN along with proof of all the extra judicial killings of Sikhs done by Hindooo cult.
Add that to all the human rights violations of Sikh women.

Hindoo Nazis are worse than German Nazis on cruelty.

@indc
The POINT of my post was that this sick devil worshipper was able to get two normal Hindus to participate in the most gruesome and wrong activities just with the promise of their business doing better if they did some devil worshipping rituals.
When you have no morals, you can be easily led astray to your destruction. Pan-theology isn’t great for locking down abhorrent behavior in the populace. But that’s what the caste system is for, right? Keep the dirty lower classes in their place while the Brahmins do whatever they like?

Ok

Shaman says

@indc
The POINT of my post was that this sick devil worshipper was able to get two normal Hindus to participate in the most gruesome and wrong activities just with the promise of their business doing better if they did some devil worshipping rituals.
When you have no morals, you can be easily led astray to your destruction. Pan-theology isn’t great for locking down abhorrent behavior in the populace. But that’s what the caste system is for, right? Keep the dirty lower classes in their place while the Brahmins do whatever they like?

Ok

@shaman
Hindooo so cultured!!!
Must treat @indc bra-man with respect!!!
Except greedy Bra-mans everyone has moved on from this Hindooo crap system of discrimination and cruelty.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Nick95377890/status/1505748055261331458

Let's talk about the real issue in hindu-stain! 🦠

"India is the most dangerous country for Women & Minorities in the World"
1/n
19 year old girl was brutally beaten by their family members.

FarmersWon says

indc says

How many times I have to explain to you Once Nato creates Khalisthan in Kanada or europe, You will turn them into 3rd world shit-hole and Hindoos will take all the dollars looted from them over 2 centuries and go back to India.

I know that typical Hindooo have no concept of international law and territorial rights , But may be You can listen to non-Hindoos rather than look stupid every time.
Israel was created on a land where Jews had some rights, So is for other communities.
UN will gives Sikhs the land they have rightS on.

Are you saying India should break a part of it for International law and give it to Khalisthanis supported by CIA and NATO? WIth that logic India can be broken into 500 countries where everyone can say they are oppressed. No one will give shit about such rule. And same rule can be applied to America. Why shouldn't Russia support separate country for native-american since they literally have their land stolen from them. You remember Jews were thrown away from their land they claim back. SIkhs want to take hindu lands so it is stupid comparison.

Shaman says

@indc
? Keep the dirty lower classes in their place while the Brahmins do whatever they like?

@Shaman, thanks for clarifying. Why dont you clarify "devil worshipper" is a muslims maulana.

Are you a christian missionary? Where did you get that shit quote from? Brahmins do whatever they like? Do you have any proof of this statement? Brahmins lead a very pious life they sacrifice their life for hindu dharma. You just read what jesuit priest who are into conversion and try to make whole world believe it. Like I said you and bastard Abrahamic narrative.

indc says

Are you saying India should break a part of it for International law and give it to Khalisthanis supported by CIA and NATO? WIth that logic India can be broken into 500 countries where everyone can say they are oppressed. No one will give shit about such rule. And same rule can be applied to America. Why shouldn't Russia support separate country for native-american since they literally have their land stolen from them. You remember Jews were thrown away from their land they claim back. SIkhs want to take hindu lands so it is stupid comparison.

Absolutely yes. No body owes bra-mans of Hindooo cult anything.
We all know that Hindooo has no decency to leave Khalsa lands peacefully, So NATO's Khalistan have to snatch them and they won't be able to do anything like they surrendered in-front of china.(Hindooo cult is only good at oppressing own citizens and minorities)
Yes 1 million Sikhs killed and 5 million driven out of their land by Hindooo cult and we will claim our lands and some of Hindu land too to teach them lesson.
Hindooo Nazi treated Sikhs worse than German Nazi treatment of Jews.

indc says

@Shaman, thanks for clarifying. Why dont you clarify "devil worshipper" is a muslims maulana.

Are you a christian missionary? Where did you get that shit quote from? Brahmins do whatever they like? Do you have any proof of this statement? Brahmins lead a very pious life they sacrifice their life for hindu dharma. You just read what jesuit priest who are into conversion and try to make whole world believe it. Like I said you and bastard Abrahamic narrative.

I really have to chuckle on Rapist pedophile bra-mans of Hindooo cult as "Brahmins lead a very pious life they sacrifice their life for hindu dharma"........ BooooHAHAHAHA

Totally fine folks, These Bra-mans ARE GOOD PIMPS AND JOHNS...of kids, Which in civilized world is known as reprehensible Pedophilia.
https://velivada.com/2018/02/08/devadasi-holy-aryan-hindu-prostitution-system-indian-temples/
Devadasi – Holy Aryan Hindu Prostitution System in Indian Temples

Bra-mans have Good gang rape values.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/20/world/asia/india-rape-muslim-hindu.html
Mr. Raulji went so far as to suggest that the men’s status as high-caste Hindus argued in favor of their freedom. “Their family’s activity was very good; they are Brahmin people,” he said, referring to their caste. “And as it is with Brahmins, their values were also very good.”

It could also be a handy justification for subjecting their population to repeated and draconian lockdowns. What was said would fit that reasoning nicely.

Everyone in the world will eventually get the coof. Even the elite. Depop to ZERO huh?

Is there really such a thing as "long covid"? Seem to me that, after millions of people have contracted the covid, there are going to be some that recover just fine but happen to catch some other problem that they naturally blame on the covid. Then there are the other 99% of the supposed sufferers who just claim to have long covid so they can stay home and collect benefits!

Shaman says

It could also be a handy justification for subjecting their population to repeated and draconian lockdowns. What was said would fit that reasoning nicely.

Also its a good way to keep people home under the pretenses of a COVID lockdown then be home as laid off workers due to a depression or major recession. If they are laid off then it makes the Chinese communists (Chicoms) look bad at managing the economy.

And it's all the fault of the Democrats, particularly Biden.

Whocouldaknown that paying people more on unemployment than they made working, sending out trillions of dollars of "free" money and putting in rent moratoriums would devalue our money?

People are still spending like they were during the "free" money days of Covid, they are simply putting it on their credit cards. An 18% increase in credit card balances in one month ... what could go wrong there??

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/we-are-seeing-an-increasing-reliance-on-credit-flat-retail-sales-are-just-the-beginning-consumers-are-worried-about-rising-prices-and-a-looming-recession/ar-AA12Y6Oh?cvid=65539478641c46e8835f89be66271c64