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3618   theoakman   2010 Aug 23, 12:49am  

Here's an artist's impression of Obama's windows desktop.

3619   anonymous   2010 Aug 23, 12:55am  

wow, never would have thought Bama reads zerohedge
3620   Bap33   2010 Aug 23, 1:24am  

ToT does make a good point. A punless post indicates a copy-paste. Much like when I post somethoing that is spelled correctly and wrote intelligently, there is probably a bit of borrowing involved.

Kevin,
I agree 100% that all good humor has a base in truth, and great humor requires some thought. I like Mark Twain humor more than Adam Sandler humor. But, Sandler's "medium pace"(nasty) and "hanaka"(sp)(cute) make me laugh. You?

I think ""Q: Have you heard about McDonald’s’ new Obama Value Meal?

A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you has to pay for it.

–Conan O’Brien"" is a stab at Bush, if you read it a little different ... and still pretty funny. Not as funny as the Michael Jackson burger from McD's, but still funny.

3621   zzyzzx   2010 Aug 23, 3:05am  

I still like Obama. He’s definitely got a hard job cleaning up the wreckage of the Bush years.

Problem with that statement is that we still haven't cleaned up the wreckage from the Carter years.

3622   Done!   2010 Aug 23, 4:06am  

Deomcrats love to inject.
In the link Patrick has a link today
http://www.irvinehousingblog.com/blog/comments/government-robs-working-renters-to-subsidize-unemployed-homedebtors/?source=patrick.net#blogtitle

The guy that wrote the blog has a Rockwelian picture where he alternates between
Republican figures and Democrat figures.

Instead of looking at the people he depicts for face value based on thier track record.
He goes on to inject scary left talking points above their heads of things they never said.

Then for Obama, of course it's everybody's fault, he has bubble over his head where he just blames his advisers, and the party of no.

You people are classic.
And where did my shout out to John Stewart go?

3623   marcus   2010 Aug 23, 4:12am  

zzyzzx says

we still haven’t cleaned up the wreckage from the Carter years.

Why not invoke the evils of Johnson or FDR ? ( ra ra sis boom bah,.......gooooo republicans)

3624   marcus   2010 Aug 23, 4:16am  

Or maybe your point was the same as mine, that going way way back to Bush is silly. If that is the case, then you don't understand the magnitude of what Bush left us.

3625   elliemae   2010 Aug 23, 10:39pm  

Well, the articles prove it. This isn't because of the oil slick. IMHO, it's because of the fish media. They've scared the other fish into changing their scales, the equivalent of changing political parties to save the country.

Maybe they could vote oxygen back into the water?

3626   elliemae   2010 Aug 23, 10:47pm  

Paralithodes says

Or is elliemae obsessed with elliemae?

Oh, yea. Every morning I look in the mirror and tell myself, "I deserve good things. I am entitled to my share of happiness. I refuse to beat myself up. I am attractive person. I am fun to be with. Because I'm good enough... I'm smart enough.. and, doggonit, people like me!"

3627   elliemae   2010 Aug 23, 11:06pm  

Bap33 says

I aint been up late enough for SNL since John Belushi and Eddie Murphy where regulars.

It hasn't been worth staying up for, I don't have a clue how it's remained on the air this long. The edginess is long gone. But this is worth a listen... I wish I had the video too. I know it's available on bearshare...

http://iheartjimmy.wordpress.com/2010/03/17/happy-st-patricks-day/

3628   RayAmerica   2010 Aug 25, 3:21am  

Paralithodes says

Funny how that works… In nearly every thread initiated by Ray that I have visited (a small sample to be sure), elliemae is one of the early respondents, and most often initiates some type of lightly-worded personal attack. In this thread alone, elliemae baits Ray with off-topic, personal comments until she gets to the point in the exchange where can then accuse Ray of personal attacks. Perhaps Ray also responds to every thread that elliemae initiates in a similar manner, but if one only reviewed Ray’s threads, the question of who is really obsessed with whom gets quite muddied… Is Ray obsessed with elliemae? Is elliemae obsessed with Ray? Or is elliemae obsessed with elliemae? Or a little of all of them?

Thanks for your honesty as displayed in your post. I agree with most of it, however, trust me, I'm not obsessed with anyone. I think you'll see a typical pattern in which I don't respond until I've been hit on about 3 or 4 times by the one that seems "obsessed" with me.

3629   🎂 simchaland   2010 Aug 25, 6:38am  

Rayray and Elliemae sittin' in a tree. K-I-S-S-I-N-G. First comes love. Then comes marriage...

I feel like we are suddenly on a Grammar School playground.

3630   RayAmerica   2010 Aug 25, 7:00am  

I think ellie is beyond Grammar School, don't you? But then again .....

3631   cloud13   2010 Aug 26, 7:34am  

while (House Price > sane value)
{
wait ();
read forums on patrick;
enjoy your value
}

3632   cloud13   2010 Aug 26, 7:34am  

while (House Price > sane value)
{
wait ();
read forums on patrick;
enjoy your life
}

3633   cloud13   2010 Aug 26, 11:43am  

The Bay Area as we see now is different from what it was 10 years ago.
1.) Not many companies are going public.
2.) Even if companies go public, they don’t give shit load of stock options like they use to
So the likelihood of many people becoming rich to afford these houses is very less now. You can maintain these high prices only if this area continues to create enough rich people so that they keep on consuming these over valued assets.
And Don’t forget the most important factor- “Public Schools”, that is the only thing they differ in.
How different is mission san jose from warm springs or even mil pitas ?? Just different schools. More or less same kind of homes, Same kind of people live there. Now keep in mind Schools are going down, because the whole state is going down as you can see.

There can be other developments also, May be some enterprising person may want to develop a network of private schools which are really affordable and are better than public schools in Mission San Jose/Cupertino and completely decouple the Zip Code and the kind of education your kids receive.

A lot can happen- Bottom line an over priced entity always comes down to realize it’s true or sane value.

3634   Done!   2010 Aug 26, 12:01pm  

#include "Sanity.h"

Void Be_Patient{
Can_I_Afford_It -> Can_Anyone_else;
Wait();
}

3635   Â¥   2010 Aug 26, 12:11pm  

Redfin has 63 SFH listings for 90487.

There are 40,000 GOOG and AAPL worker bees.

ahum.

When I was FOB in Cupertino in 2000, 90487 was too rich for my manager at Apple, who had purchased a $400K place in Morgan Hill and tried to commute the 101 and 85.

He's still at Apple, has his old manager's job, and I suspect he's no longer making that commute, if you get my drift.

Prices have risen in lockstep with the inverse of interest rates:

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1428-Knowlton-Dr-Sunnyvale-CA-94087/19623757_zpid/

Higher rates might push prices down, but as long as AAPL and GOOG are healthy and hiring, I don't see any major fall in this outer fortress area.

3636   Done!   2010 Aug 26, 12:18pm  

"For Sale: $979,000
Monthly payment:$3,862

Down payment:
% ($195,800)
30 Year Fixed:
4.27% $3,862 /mo
15 Year Fixed
3.81% $5,719 /mo
5/1 ARM:
3.24% $3,402 /mo

Include estimated taxes and insurance
Bull Crap if 215K is 1000 a month at least.

Property type: Single Family
Bedrooms: 3
Bathrooms: 2
Sqft: 1,512
Lot size: 7,775 sq ft / 0.18 acres
Year built: 1961

Sqft: 1,512 That's insane! If I was making money to afford that, I'd still not pay it out of principal.

Goto: Blue screen of death

3637   Â¥   2010 Aug 26, 12:42pm  

If had stayed at Apple, I'd have around $5M worth of stock stashed by now.

And I was just a very ordinary lower-middle tier worker bee awarded a piddling 1000 options vesting over 4 years.

With 20% down, the nominal cost of ownership is $3300/mo.

That may seem high, but it's about what rents are (lower perhaps), and the important thing is that after 20 years the interest burden drops by half, cutting cost of ownership down to $2400/mo.

What will rents look like in 2030? If comparing 1990 to now is useful, they will be 2X what they are now.

I don't know if past inflation will occur in the next 20 years -- certainly the bond market is telling us no -- but one of the mistakes I made working at Apple was living too far away from the mothership. You get paid and promoted based on your contribution to the company, and living within easy commuting of the place basically means you can up your contribution quite significantly while maintaining the same quality of life.

3638   Cvoc13   2010 Aug 26, 2:43pm  

Tru Dat!

3639   alpine   2010 Aug 26, 4:41pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCK says

Bottom line: DEAD MEAT. Anyone buying a house in the next 20 years is committing suicide.

But if I rent my house, then when the lease is up the landlord will evict me. Why? The world's suffered a melt down, and he wants my potatoes. And my water supply. But I can't buy land to grow my potatoes, because then I'm committing suicide.

I guess my only option is to wander off into the national forest and plant a defensible potato farm ala marijuana grow ops?

3640   🎂 simchaland   2010 Aug 26, 8:06pm  

PPete says

I saw a promo for a survivalist program with a couple in the wild. In the promo the woman drank her husband’s urine. Do you think it will get that bad?

I wouldn't say that in all cases that a woman drinking her husband's urine is bad. Some people enjoy this type of activity in private.

3641   shultzie   2010 Aug 27, 12:27am  

Call Goldline now!!!

3642   Cautious1   2010 Aug 27, 2:52pm  

Tomatoes are pretty good, too; easy to grow; lots of vitamin C. Lay in some canning jars and a kettle.

Do you really think it will get better in three generations?

3643   UAVMX   2010 Aug 28, 9:03am  

Yeah, i don't know about potatoes, i'd rather live on veggies....totally against my Irish background though....your forgot to mention buy guns and ammo too, right?

3644   elliemae   2010 Aug 29, 1:02am  

I looked up "survival store" on the interwebs and there were 4,920,000 results. I need a little time to go shopping. But I can tell you one thing fer shore, I'm out of tin foil.

What if they try to reach me when I'm driving to the dollar store to buy more?

3645   elliemae   2010 Aug 29, 2:46am  

Plus, since I'm a woman, I can change my mind (ray) as many times as I want.

3646   elliemae   2010 Aug 30, 12:21am  

Thankyou, Mr. Spam - you were able to explain, 'cause we're stoopid.
3647   🎂 simchaland   2010 Aug 30, 4:11am  

Yes, basically the hiring class has been squeezing the American worker by paying 1985 wages for 2010 productivity. Labor's productivity has increased over the last 25 years, yet wages remain stagnant. Prices for staples have increased exponentially since 1985. Eventually there is a breaking point. Eventually workers cannot afford to work for 1985 wages if they expect to be able to house, clothe, feed, and bathe themselves and/or their family. Instead of increasing wages to attract good employees, the hiring class will continue to bid bottom dollar in an effort to extract more and more profit out of their employees' labor without having to reward their employees who create profit for the hiring class.

This is how you end up where we are headed: A 2 class system. Labor drops from the middle class and dives into the lower unemployed class joining them in poverty whether they work or not. The hiring class, the capitalists, the ones with all the capital, move farther ahead of the working and non-working poor. A giant gap gets wider as the process continues. And we thought slavery ended with the 13th Amendment.

Do you hear that giant sucking sound? It's the 21st century robber-barons sucking money away from the working class and the poor.

Do you hear that sound like a door being slammed? It's the 21st century robber-barons locking their hoards of wealth away from the rude masses from which they took the money.

Bread and circuses for all.

3648   vain   2010 Aug 30, 5:11am  

I was playing a game of Monopoly recently and the situation came up where I owned majority of the property, and had a good amount of cash. Near the end, when player #2 was broke from landing on all my monopolies (with houses), and was about to give up (walk away), I gave him all my money less $500. The results? All the money I gave him came back to me and more since I was able to keep him in the game longer. I was essentially using him to pass go, collect $200, and in turn, give it all to me. Once he is about to give up, repeat. He was not able to buy any houses for his properties since there were no more available from the bank. It infused alot more money into our little economy.

Slavery. But you all can call it helping him (bailing him out). The gap gets wider and wider.

3649   RayAmerica   2010 Aug 30, 5:59am  

Vain .... good illustration of what is happening today. Slavery to debt, employer and government (high taxation). The powers to be have most people exactly where they want them.

3650   Done!   2010 Aug 30, 8:01am  

A good small engine repair shop, repairs every thing from push mowers, chain saws, ridding mowers, edgers, weed eaters, sharpen chains, sharpen cutting blades, construction equipment combustion engines such as those on a concrete mixer or a generator.

They are actually quite busy and stand to Mr. Employer a lot of money "Up to" 40K sounds very suspect. As that is about what I made in 86, when I was 18 working in the SER shop in the back of a NAPA, in North Florida.

Those Logging outfits, Landscapers and Contractors, wrote some good checks on equipment repairs. I did about 4 or 5 major repairs every day. I never got time to sharpen blades and chains, which is what I was supposed to do in the slow time.

3651   🎂 simchaland   2010 Aug 30, 11:39am  

Maybe if I go to Fort Knox I can finally get my grill.

grill

3652   Â¥   2010 Aug 30, 12:29pm  

Fort Knox allegedly has ~$200B worth of gold in it.

The SSTF has $2.5T worth of treasuries in it.

I know that the thieves know where the real money to be stolen is, no tons of Tungsten required, just the creation and maintenance of ~5M gullible idiots.

3653   nope   2010 Aug 31, 6:43pm  

simchaland says

Yes, basically the hiring class has been squeezing the American worker by paying 1985 wages for 2010 productivity. Labor’s productivity has increased over the last 25 years, yet wages remain stagnant. Prices for staples have increased exponentially since 1985. Eventually there is a breaking point. Eventually workers cannot afford to work for 1985 wages if they expect to be able to house, clothe, feed, and bathe themselves and/or their family. Instead of increasing wages to attract good employees, the hiring class will continue to bid bottom dollar in an effort to extract more and more profit out of their employees’ labor without having to reward their employees who create profit for the hiring class.
This is how you end up where we are headed: A 2 class system. Labor drops from the middle class and dives into the lower unemployed class joining them in poverty whether they work or not. The hiring class, the capitalists, the ones with all the capital, move farther ahead of the working and non-working poor. A giant gap gets wider as the process continues. And we thought slavery ended with the 13th Amendment.
Do you hear that giant sucking sound? It’s the 21st century robber-barons sucking money away from the working class and the poor.
Do you hear that sound like a door being slammed? It’s the 21st century robber-barons locking their hoards of wealth away from the rude masses from which they took the money.
Bread and circuses for all.

Stop shopping at wal mart.

3654   tatupu70   2010 Sep 2, 2:04am  

This is what I was wondering. Was the recent decline a sign that the housing credit was only delaying the inevitable decline? Or was it a small blip in the rise due to buyers being pulled forward out for a couple of months?

I think it's still too soon to tell and it will depend on the overall economy.

3655   woggs1   2010 Sep 2, 2:14am  

tatupu70 says

This is what I was wondering. Was the recent decline a sign that the housing credit was only delaying the inevitable decline? Or was it a small blip in the rise due to buyers being pulled forward out for a couple of months?
I think it’s still too soon to tell and it will depend on the overall economy.

You really don't know? Just read a few articles on the front page of this website, that should give you a hint.

3656   AltonS   2010 Sep 2, 2:21am  

They could also be cooking the books:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=165800

3657   alpine   2010 Sep 2, 2:26am  

Compared to the July last year, pending home sales fell 19.1 percent.

Just sayin.

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