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37994   Bellingham Bill   2013 Oct 2, 5:37am  

ForcedTQ says

The MF'ers from both "sides" of congress did not read the entire bill before signing it into law

PPACA received effectively zero votes from the Republican caucus.

There are a couple of issues the Dems would certainly like to fix with it, but the Republican "repeal and replace" isn't a valid starting point for them.

So, yeah, you're just full of shit your enlightened "both sides" shtick.

37995   zzyzzx   2013 Oct 2, 5:38am  

tatupu70 says

How about you try living off of welfare for a couple of months, then come back here and tell us how "easy" it was.

It's like being retired.

37996   Bellingham Bill   2013 Oct 2, 5:39am  

zzyzzx says

You know, the person waiting on tables or operating a cash register doesn't need a masters degree.

not for that job, no, but education improves peoples lives immensely. We all want to be more than just a timecard in a slot.

thing is, education is very resource-light -- buildings, grounds care, instructional salaries -- public goods expense. We can certainly afford it, given the massive benefits we get from a well-educated, well-rounded populace.

Your utopia is a very dismal place; no sale.

37997   Blurtman   2013 Oct 2, 6:04am  

Mish just banned me for pointing out that he rips off other moderator's threads on Patrick.net and then posts them on his blog with his own terribly reasoned commentary. He denied doing this - a terrible lie - and then said he was invited by Patrick to be a moderator. But anyone can be a moderator, so again, Mish concocts yet another stinker. He seems a bit mentally unbalanced. What Mish does on his blog, anyone can do on Patrick.net. Viva Patrick.net!

37998   tatupu70   2013 Oct 2, 6:05am  

Straw Man says

Forget about nation of law. It's obvious that we ARE nation of assholes that second guess the laws we don't like. It happened before with, say, marriage and immigration laws, there is no reason this time should be different.

That's fine. There is a legal way to amend or change laws. Introduce a bill and get the required votes.

37999   Analyzer   2013 Oct 2, 6:46am  

edvard2 says

Don't waste your time Patrick, I've been saying the same thing for years and
for some reason the response is that its better to invest in houses, dirt, and
rocks than stocks, which have clearly shown to outperform RE for the past 100+
years. PS: I own a house too.

If you can do better trading stocks, bonds, commodities, etc why would you even bother with housing?

38000   FortWayne   2013 Oct 2, 6:56am  

zzyzzx says

Thought ever occur to you that we already wildly overspend in education in the US? You know, the person waiting on tables or operating a cash register doesn't need a masters degree.

But she sure needed that $100,000 government loan to be directly paid to the education industrial complex structure of her choice so she could be in debt for life...
And even if she didn't want it, government would spend a ton of money convincing her to participate.

It kind of amuses me sometimes how liberals are up in arms about inequality and yet are happy-joy to put people into debt in self-serving purposes.

38001   Entitlemented   2013 Oct 2, 7:00am  

CRA innovative loans, and their cousin loans at FHA disconnected the banks from risk in many ways.

The low interest rates, kept that way by the FED is like another CRA, it is keeping loan payments small per dollar mortgages, but it again has the same effect as the CRA and the related NINJA, No Doc, and other loans: It raises the price above the intrinsic value.

Loan prices should allow savers to have interest, and banks to make a fair amount by providing loans. The CRA and repeal of Glass Steagal changed this, and created a low risk loan making environment that was temporary.

Loan prices must be linked to familial salaries, and also an "intrinsic" value.

All these efforts to try to get housing to stay up, and outside of affordability and "intrinsic" value, is nothing but a ruse from the Lawyers in the US who set this Ponzi Schemes up.

We need to invest in Technology R&D, production and manufacturing. We need Scientists and manufactures to run the country, (Ford, Hughes) not Lawyers (Clinton, Obama).

38002   rooemoore   2013 Oct 2, 7:33am  

FortWayne says

tatupu70 says

FortWayne says

Dems are trying very hard to raise debt ceiling, I don't think they will ever oppose an idea of more spending

Increasing the debt ceiling does causes exactly ZERO new spending to occur.

No, it allows government to spend us into debt slavery. If I give you a credit card and let you max it ... you'll max it out. And if I give you an increase in spending, you'll max that out too. It's common sense.

You do understand FortWayne that not raising the debt ceiling creates much more debt than raising it?

38003   Shaman   2013 Oct 2, 7:37am  

What a fine young cannibal!

38004   Shaman   2013 Oct 2, 7:41am  

freak80 says

FortWayne says

While I was out working all day long busting my back, they were partying all day.

While you were out working all day, I got myself an education. Now I don't have to do manual labor outside all day.

Don't be knocking manual labor bro! I do that most days, and it helps keep fit and muscular. I think if I'd ended up at a desk I'd be fat and unhealthy.

38005   Ceffer   2013 Oct 2, 7:54am  

It's really sad when a get rich quick scheme results in Go To Jail Forever, instead.

Why do they hate free enterprise?

BitCoins are going to become GetFuckedCoins.

38006   Ceffer   2013 Oct 2, 7:56am  

Can you do this without removing the face from the living first? Seems it would make it a much fresher cook, especially if you like rare.

38007   edvard2   2013 Oct 2, 8:07am  

I guess I keep reading posts like this and wonder: Why even bother posting them? The GOP gave the best gift ever to the Democrats, and all one who has their interests with that party has to do is sit back and enjoy the show as the GOP flails in the hole they dig for themselves.

38008   MershedPerturders   2013 Oct 2, 8:26am  

what a jackass.

I bet all his hipster friends think he's so !@#$ing cool.

too bad the judge won't.

38009   Ceffer   2013 Oct 2, 8:29am  

Guess we'll just have to buy those cannibal anarchy Gatlings somewhere else.

38010   Robert Sproul   2013 Oct 2, 8:30am  

Less than perfect OpSec considering the life-in-prison consequences.
Here is a pretty good synopsis:
http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1nl7p9/sr_shutdown_fallout_discussion/

Don't fret, plenty more marketplaces.
BMR, Black Market Reloaded, will meet your needs.

38011   MershedPerturders   2013 Oct 2, 8:34am  

"Most likely customers have nothing to worry about. We have to have faith that all incriminating evidence is kept highly encrypted."

LOL! sure guys you've got nothing to worry about!

38012   Ceffer   2013 Oct 2, 8:42am  

Robert Sproul says

Less than perfect OpSec considering the life-in-prison consequences.

Here is a pretty good synopsis:

http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1nl7p9/sr_shutdown_fallout_discussion/

Don't fret, plenty more marketplaces.

BMR, Black Market Reloaded, will meet your needs.

I like that.

Specializes in a marketplace for money laundering, weapons, underground black market items and drugs, then asks everybody to trust him because he is such an honest and decent person that he try to make sure that everybody stay safe.

More likely he is in the process of cutting a deal selling all his customers down the river, and wants them to remain in place to improve his bargaining stance.

38013   HydroCabron   2013 Oct 2, 8:45am  

Ceffer says

Can you do this without removing the face from the living first? Seems it would make it a much fresher cook, especially if you like rare.

If the bankster has been used in the Sport of Kings, then "living" is a subjective term: the rodents introduced into the posterior of the dirtbag may have consumed as far north as the windpipe or the throat cavity. This makes a medium or well-done preparation a much better idea.

38014   EBGuy   2013 Oct 2, 8:48am  

CiC said: Why do you guys hate entrepreneurial spirit, the free market and capitalism???
Read the reddit post. He was, of course, was an Austrian. You cannot make this stuff up. DPR cited the "Austrian Economic theory" along with the works of Ludwig von Mises and Murray Rothbard, all of which are closesly associated with the Mises Institute.

38015   MershedPerturders   2013 Oct 2, 9:13am  

the bitcoin thing is really a bit of a joke really.

did you know that Mt Gox originally stood for Magic The Gathering Online Exchange?

38016   MershedPerturders   2013 Oct 2, 9:29am  

Florida: Cannibalism Capital of the US

38017   Heraclitusstudent   2013 Oct 2, 10:55am  

Call it Crazy says

These properties are “sucking the life out of the housing market,”

Why? When they hit the market there will be one more renter hitting the market too.

38018   HEY YOU   2013 Oct 2, 11:15am  

I'm a critical thinker,I base all my decisions on the latest poll.

38019   smaulgld   2013 Oct 2, 11:32am  

Call it Crazy says

If this Debt Ceiling situation is ALL the Repub's fault, why didn't these 15 gentlemen go visit Boehner instead???

Because they want him to act unilaterally?

38020   upisdown   2013 Oct 2, 11:44am  

sbh says

zzyzzx
says



the person waiting on tables or operating a cash register doesn't need a
masters degree.

Regrets?

38021   upisdown   2013 Oct 2, 11:48am  

FortWayne says

But she sure needed that $100,000 government loan to be directly paid to the
education industrial complex structure of her choice so she could be in debt for
life...
And even if she didn't want it, government would spend a ton of money
convincing her to participate.

Jealous? It sure sounds like it, but then again you're anti-guy, who diagrees with everything and everybody to get a rise out of people and drive up the post count.

C'mon, nobody is THAT f-n stupid and uninformed in REAL LIFE, are they?

38022   Homeboy   2013 Oct 2, 12:00pm  

Call it Crazy says

If this Debt Ceiling situation is ALL the Repub's fault, why didn't these 15 gentlemen go visit Boehner instead???

Because they're stupid assholes?

38023   Philistine   2013 Oct 2, 12:10pm  

MershedPerturders says

Mt Gox originally stood for Magic The Gathering Online Exchange

That is just balls amazing. Not sure how I missed this amid all the MTG nerds I hung out with in Ye Olden Dayes.

38024   Blurtman   2013 Oct 2, 12:43pm  

WTF! This company is also being charged with drug money laundering! What the hell kind of double standard is this? Why isn't HSBC, who laundered billions for drug cartels, being prosecuted? What kind of banana republic is the USA?

38025   Shaman   2013 Oct 2, 12:44pm  

Bitcoin is destined for universal currency status, possibly becoming the most legit money in the world. A currency that isn't subject to the arbitrary whims of a feckless nation and its sociopathic politicians is better than gold. As the marketplace moves more and more online, the need for physical money representation is less and less.
The US government shut down yesterday. This can't be great for dollar values. It does make bitcoin more attractive, and if it can be spent without Uncle Sam dipping his hand in for his cut, all the better.
For a fictional example of this by an extremely intelligent author read "Cryptonomicon" by Neal Stephenson.

38026   carrieon   2013 Oct 2, 12:50pm  

This is a University poll where faculties are typically 100% democrat and the students aren't far behind.
Considering the polling results in this biased group split 50/50 means the dems are in big trouble.
You can see it the President and the Senate Leader's faces right now.

38027   HydroCabron   2013 Oct 2, 12:57pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Comptroller says

The GOP needs to field a Real Conservative. Not some guy who whines about the 47% who refuse to get rich, but someone who will condemn the 99% to being reduced to soap and signs off his campaign ads, "Suck my dick, losers!".

Not conservative enough.

I want a conservative against not only contraception, compact fluorescent bulbs, and the germ theory of disease; I want a guy against bronze, candles, the round Earth, and the axle!

Wheels are communist! Axles are for ASSHOLES!

38028   Ceffer   2013 Oct 2, 12:58pm  

Quigley says

A currency that isn't subject to the arbitrary whims of a feckless nation and its sociopathic politicians is better than gold.

You have just described why bitcoin won't succeed. Do you really think that they will tolerate a successful competitor?

38029   freak80   2013 Oct 2, 1:09pm  

HydroCabron says

I want a guy against bronze, candles, the round Earth, and the axle!

They're already against an Earth older than 10,000 years and evolution, so bronze, candles, axles, and a round earth aren't far behind.

38030   freak80   2013 Oct 2, 1:10pm  

rootvg says

Why is this important? Because when it's all said and done, it's not your country. It's OURS. If we ever truly get sick of you and tired of working within the system, we'll just kill you. That's called a civil war and we're long overdue for one. Send over more dirt bags and we'll kill them as well. That's the only way it's ever gonna be right.

Holy shit. Is that for real or is that a parody?

38031   ttsmyf   2013 Oct 2, 1:18pm  

Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."

Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!

And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Wednesday, October 2, 2013 __ Level is 96.6

WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes indeed, go here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083

38032   freak80   2013 Oct 2, 1:29pm  

rootvg says

We've got niggers and welfare and dysfunction up to our necks, something my now deceased friend from back in the midwest warned me about if we ever got one in the White House.

For real?? I can't help but invoke Poe's Law on that one...

38033   HydroCabron   2013 Oct 2, 1:30pm  

freak80 says

rootvg says

Why is this important? Because when it's all said and done, it's not your country. It's OURS. If we ever truly get sick of you and tired of working within the system, we'll just kill you. That's called a civil war and we're long overdue for one. Send over more dirt bags and we'll kill them as well. That's the only way it's ever gonna be right.

Holy shit. Is that for real or is that a parody?

Nah, it's the same ignorant religious-fanatic whose ass we've been forced to kiss since the Constitutional Convention in 1789. The most entitled, whiny little bitch population subgroup in American history, and they complain about how everyone else is getting a free ride.

"I WANNA OWN BWACK PEOPLE - WAAH!"

Time to let 'em go.

Secede, fuckers! Keeping you around was Lincoln's great mistake.

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