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Housing affordability will keep falling as the salesmen keep calling it a "housing recovery".
tatupu70
2013 Dec 17, 7:27am
Do people move up because their families have grown and they need a bigger house?? Do seniors move because they want to downsize their big house and move into something smaller?? Do people move to be closer to their families?
People move for a lot of reasons--some good, some bad.
When someone moves and buys a house, how many people earn dollars from that transaction. Think about that.... What type of economic input does a house sale produce from everyone involved in that transaction?
But there is no net gain to the economy. Is paying realtors a good thing? Paying transaction costs to the bank--that's a good thing??
See, it's not about "price increases", but "volume"!! Volume adds a lot more to the economy than higher prices will....
I see very little gain.
tatupu70
2013 Dec 17, 9:35am
What about paying home inspectors, surveyors, termite inspections, appraisers, mortgage loan brokers, movers, title company, attorneys, tradesmen not to mention what gets spent by upgrades to the new house: carpet, paint, appliances, blinds, furniture, cabinets, bathrooms, etc. Not to mention all the trips to the home improvement store, etc. There's probably a bunch I'm still missing...
Still think there's no "net gain" to the economy when someone moves??
I'm surprised at your response. You almost sound like a Keynesian!
New Renter
2013 Dec 17, 9:48am
There would be no end of desperately poor people lining up to take their shot at the assholes who not only destroyed any shot they had at a better life but convinced them it was their fault.
I dunno: killing the job craters with 50-cal. sniper rifles would increase their security costs, which they would just pass on to us in the form of higher prices for goods and services.
Plus: if there are no job craters, nobody will ever have jobs again!
Do you really think the "job craters" would need the excuse of more security to raise prices? Prices are ALWAYS set at the maximum the market can bear.
That's just basic capitalism.
HydroCabron
2013 Dec 17, 11:56am
Police malpractice.
No one wants these people living near our schools; it's no secret what they're capable of. The NSA should review all phone and internet activity - as well as in-home surveillance video - of any person whose profile suggests even a latent intent to sell real estate.
How many times must we cover this same ground?!
Strategist
2013 Dec 17, 12:26pm
The truth is....no one cares for the Walmart workers. They don't give a rat's ass for them. People only care for themselves. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying.
Strategist
2013 Dec 17, 12:29pm
following charges: false imprisonment by force, rape, intimidating a witness by force, assault with a deadly weapon, peeping with a concealed camera, battery, and violation of a court order.
This is what my dog does all the time. It's a crime?
Strategist
2013 Dec 17, 12:38pm
he truth is....no one cares for the Walmart workers. They don't give a rat's ass for them. People only care for themselves. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying.
Actually, if all these big companies paid better wages, the economy would get a lot better. So, yes, people should care. And people should not support Schiff, the idiot libertarian.
Schiff is an idiot, no argument there, but even idiots can be right at times.
Higher wages foe Walmart and McDonald workers means I have to pay for it. No way.
Strategist
2013 Dec 17, 12:41pm
This is what my dog does all the time. It's a crime?
Your dog peeps with a concealed camera?
According to my neighbor, that bitch knows everything. I'm pretty sure she has a concealed camera.
HydroCabron
2013 Dec 17, 1:17pm
Higher wages foe Walmart and McDonald workers means I have to pay for it. No way.
Exactly right.
It's like laws against dumping toxic waste, which make my consumer goods cost more. Fuck that: I ain't payin'.
Anytime the powerful do anything that costs money, they just pass the costs onto us.*
*Except for raising CEO and other executive compensation - that has no effect whatsoever on our pocketbooks, so nobody should say that, ever.
Strategist
2013 Dec 17, 1:24pm
You guys don't care either. Are you willing to give to the starving in Africa and Asia? I bet you have never given a penny.
People only care for themselves, and they show it every time they vote.
We have a Libertarian version of Roberto - finally things are getting interesting and the faux political party lines (of one and the same) are starting to make way for new breeds - like it ;)
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Santa Barbara REALTOR Bagged for Twisted Multiple Sex Crimes
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Santa Barbara realtor Richard Box
Dick Box?? And he was arrested for sex crimes?
He should be REAL popular in jail.
So libertarian investor Peter Schiff — who believes Wal-Mart is under no
obligation to pay its workers a dime more — went to Wal-Mart and staged an
absurd, fake version of their rally in an attempt to prove his point.
LOL, anything for attention for a failure of an investor, huh. Where was Mush, or was he holding the camera?
Dan above you're wrong, O.J. had a long history of abusing his wife and
kids.
Apparently it didn't happen unless he was convicted of it though.
OJ is innocent.
There are no large auto manufacturing firms. In today's world auto makers are assemblers of parts from subcontractors. If GM went under the other auto makers would increase production. Gm suppliers would become honda, toyota, etc. suppliers (not too had since many already are). Gm dealers would become honda,toyota, etc. dealers (not too hard since most already are).
this is entirely true of the modern supply chain, its very generic and actually provides for many diverse users customers already.. so the switch over is seamless with no disruption.
ELC
2013 Dec 17, 9:55pm
But he's stubborn and refuses to sell until he can atleast break even. Even though his original plan was to move up to a house by now. He's freelancing now so its probably harder to qualify for a new mortgage anyway.
In sales you learn, there's always two reasons someone does something. The one that sounds the best, then there's the REAL reason. He can't get a mortgage. That's the real reason.
marcus
2013 Dec 17, 10:31pm
Think about agendas ?
What agenda is more likely. The wacko Zionist agenda you describe which somehow motivates the pretend killing of 20 young children ?
Or the agenda of wackos who are afraid their guns are going to be taken away by a fascist Zionist government.
Whcih Agenda is harder to pull off ?
Faking the murder of 20 children ?
Or coming up with supposedly compelling evidence that somehow shows it was fake ?
How did they shut up all the first responders and others who would have seen the aftermath had it happened, but didn't ?
@bgamall
Come on tin foil hat boy! Don't expect to convince us with evidence...we're too busy trying to fit it and make sure people like us.
marcus
2013 Dec 17, 11:15pm
Heslin looks to be in his 50's
He looks way heavier in the framed picture. So he lost a lot of weight in the interim, which makes the face less tight. IT might have been airbrushed too, as those studio pics often are, but also aging doesn't happen in a gradual linear way. You stay the same for a while, and then in a few years a change takes place. At least that's been my observation with most people.
But hey, at least they found something they could call "evidence."
It's easy to think something didn't happen (especially if your gullible to that sort of thing). What kind of proof should we have that it did happen ?
Are you making any money with your ebook ?
Let us know when the Zionists come knocking at your door making you stop with all this truth telling. Seems like if they could pull that off, they should be able to shut you up. Of course if they come with a big check, I don't guess you'll be telling us about it.
I just want you to know that I've got my Reynolds tin foil hat on...Operation Northwoods never happened.
911 call where one of the operators is heard saying "...there is a rumor it's fake"
I've switched my tin foil to a stainless steel salad bowl.
The Victoria Soto Memorial Facebook Page was created 4 days before the Sandy Hook shooting. Also, “Our Heart are with Sandy Hook†was created 3 days before the shooting. The website “Sandy Hook Elementary Victims Fund†was created 1 day before the Sandy Hook shooting. When all of this was questioned by crazy conspiracy theorists, all the pages were deleted.
The America's Cup would be a shit-ton more exciting to watch if the course was littered with sea mines, and random fast-boats leaded with hungry Somali pirates appeared once in a while.
In fact, I'd gladly pay anywhere from $50-$100 Bernanke Bux on Pay Per View to watch.
Tenpoundbass
2013 Dec 18, 12:05am
Huh!? Well I'll be damned...
Apparently you can say it never happened and jive talk and knee slap about Zionism and claim the Jews did it, and it will never even rate with this lot. But point out that it happened in a blue state just minutes after it happened; and you better have your hands white knuckled on the hand rails. Because the fake outrage and clamor that will create will send a percussive shock wave, that will make Obama's teleprompter flicker 1,000 miles away.
rooemoore
2013 Dec 18, 12:29am
Based on the age difference of the father from his picture to when he testified to congress, the kid in the picture could not have been 6 at Sandy Hook. It looks to me like there is about 20 years difference between Heslin in the picture and Heslin at the hearing with congress.
Does anyone else see this too?
Gee, if it was such a massive conspiracy wouldn't they have photoshoped it to fit the narrative?
Maybe the reason he looks old is because the combined stress of losing his child and having heartless dumb-asses like you screaming he's a fraud.
Strategist
2013 Dec 18, 12:39am
If the kids are still alive, where are they?
If you want to prove the shooting was a hoax, just prove the kids are still alive.
I don't know what the fuck happened at Sandy Hook. Or on 911. (http://nypost.com/2013/12/15/inside-the-saudi-911-coverup/ [yeah, it's the Post. The NYT is just never going to cover this story[)
Neither does bigamall and neither do you tinfoil-hat-mocking-motherfuckers despite your smug credulity.
But you really should try to understand that the narrative that you are being fed on a pretty little hors d'oeuvres tray is really highly manipulated bullshit. The FBI for example lies automatically, systemically, and universally.
Try to get up to speed on Parallel Construction for an example of their total corruption of our judicial system and their complete conscious-less Orwellian manufacturing of "Truth"
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/12/former-top-nsa-official-now-police-state.html
William Binney, years before Snowden, sounded the alarm on these ruthless Authoritarians.
Gee, if it was such a massive conspiracy wouldn't they have photoshoped it to fit the narrative?
No need to Photoshop because Eastman Kodak is all part of the Yinon Zionist conspiracy. The EAST part of Eastman refers to the geographic situation of Israel. Everyone knows that most Jews have "MAN" at the end of their name.
KODAK is close to Kojak. Telly Savalas was a Zionist at heart. All Greeks are.
Then there is the issue of the Zionist who ran the photo printing shop at the CVS in Sandy Hook where Heslin picked up the photo. She is another well known Zionist who is related to the Rockefellers. You know, the ones that want to control Middle East Oil and are the same people involved in the staged Syrian gas attack.
I bet you it was a Yinon Zionist that sold them the gold frame too.
Can't you all see the connections? It's right in front of your eyes.
If the kids are still alive, where are they?
If you want to prove the shooting was a hoax, just prove the kids are still alive.
How about using victim photos of children who are alive and had nothing to do with the "massacre"?
http://www.youtube.com/embed/VEqrUbac2yo
I just want you to know that I've got my Reynolds tin foil hat on..
I'm starting a new executive clothing line of beryllium lined tin foil hats custom fitted to the users head. I can see there is huge demand.
So you got that guys. The aim of Israel is to deceive the Americans after they have deceived all the rest. That is in Israel Shahak's own words, the heroic Jew who translated the Yinon Plan into English.
Wake the fuck up America.
I don't use that word lightly.
Ok I'm awake now. I certainly see how a fake story of an autistic catholic kid shooting up an elementary school in rural ct would further the ambitions of the zionist neocon cabal to break up the arab states and enabling zionist world domination. It all makes perfect sense.
Did you want to buy a hat? I should have production running soon.
Please keep up your invaluable service to patnet. Patnet readers need a laugh in the mornings.
The infamous FOMC meeting............crony capitalism at its best.
I just want you to know that I've got my Reynolds tin foil hat on..
I'm starting a new executive clothing line of beryllium lined tin foil hats custom fitted to the users head. I can see there is huge demand.
HUGE demand. I'm thinking something along the lines of what Magneto wore in XMen.
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