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clambo says

Dan above you're wrong, O.J. had a long history of abusing his wife and
kids.

Apparently it didn't happen unless he was convicted of it though.

OJ is innocent.

bob2356 says

There are no large auto manufacturing firms. In today's world auto makers are assemblers of parts from subcontractors. If GM went under the other auto makers would increase production. Gm suppliers would become honda, toyota, etc. suppliers (not too had since many already are). Gm dealers would become honda,toyota, etc. dealers (not too hard since most already are).

this is entirely true of the modern supply chain, its very generic and actually provides for many diverse users customers already.. so the switch over is seamless with no disruption.

BoomAndBustCycle says

But he's stubborn and refuses to sell until he can atleast break even. Even though his original plan was to move up to a house by now. He's freelancing now so its probably harder to qualify for a new mortgage anyway.

In sales you learn, there's always two reasons someone does something. The one that sounds the best, then there's the REAL reason. He can't get a mortgage. That's the real reason.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/23/this-is-theblazes-point-by-point-sandy-hook-conspiracy-theory-debunk/

Think about agendas ?

What agenda is more likely. The wacko Zionist agenda you describe which somehow motivates the pretend killing of 20 young children ?

Or the agenda of wackos who are afraid their guns are going to be taken away by a fascist Zionist government.

Whcih Agenda is harder to pull off ?

Faking the murder of 20 children ?

Or coming up with supposedly compelling evidence that somehow shows it was fake ?

How did they shut up all the first responders and others who would have seen the aftermath had it happened, but didn't ?

@bgamall

Come on tin foil hat boy! Don't expect to convince us with evidence...we're too busy trying to fit it and make sure people like us.

bgamall4 says

Heslin looks to be in his 50's

He looks way heavier in the framed picture. So he lost a lot of weight in the interim, which makes the face less tight. IT might have been airbrushed too, as those studio pics often are, but also aging doesn't happen in a gradual linear way. You stay the same for a while, and then in a few years a change takes place. At least that's been my observation with most people.

But hey, at least they found something they could call "evidence."

It's easy to think something didn't happen (especially if your gullible to that sort of thing). What kind of proof should we have that it did happen ?

Are you making any money with your ebook ?

Let us know when the Zionists come knocking at your door making you stop with all this truth telling. Seems like if they could pull that off, they should be able to shut you up. Of course if they come with a big check, I don't guess you'll be telling us about it.

I just want you to know that I've got my Reynolds tin foil hat on...Operation Northwoods never happened.

911 call where one of the operators is heard saying "...there is a rumor it's fake"

http://www.youtube.com/embed/8vB032jqLns

I've switched my tin foil to a stainless steel salad bowl.

The Victoria Soto Memorial Facebook Page was created 4 days before the Sandy Hook shooting. Also, “Our Heart are with Sandy Hook” was created 3 days before the shooting. The website “Sandy Hook Elementary Victims Fund” was created 1 day before the Sandy Hook shooting. When all of this was questioned by crazy conspiracy theorists, all the pages were deleted.

The America's Cup would be a shit-ton more exciting to watch if the course was littered with sea mines, and random fast-boats leaded with hungry Somali pirates appeared once in a while.

In fact, I'd gladly pay anywhere from $50-$100 Bernanke Bux on Pay Per View to watch.

Huh!? Well I'll be damned...

Apparently you can say it never happened and jive talk and knee slap about Zionism and claim the Jews did it, and it will never even rate with this lot. But point out that it happened in a blue state just minutes after it happened; and you better have your hands white knuckled on the hand rails. Because the fake outrage and clamor that will create will send a percussive shock wave, that will make Obama's teleprompter flicker 1,000 miles away.

bgamall4 says

Based on the age difference of the father from his picture to when he testified to congress, the kid in the picture could not have been 6 at Sandy Hook. It looks to me like there is about 20 years difference between Heslin in the picture and Heslin at the hearing with congress.

Does anyone else see this too?

bgamall4 says

Gee, if it was such a massive conspiracy wouldn't they have photoshoped it to fit the narrative?

Maybe the reason he looks old is because the combined stress of losing his child and having heartless dumb-asses like you screaming he's a fraud.

If the kids are still alive, where are they?
If you want to prove the shooting was a hoax, just prove the kids are still alive.

I don't know what the fuck happened at Sandy Hook. Or on 911. (http://nypost.com/2013/12/15/inside-the-saudi-911-coverup/ [yeah, it's the Post. The NYT is just never going to cover this story[)
Neither does bigamall and neither do you tinfoil-hat-mocking-motherfuckers despite your smug credulity.
But you really should try to understand that the narrative that you are being fed on a pretty little hors d'oeuvres tray is really highly manipulated bullshit. The FBI for example lies automatically, systemically, and universally.

Try to get up to speed on Parallel Construction for an example of their total corruption of our judicial system and their complete conscious-less Orwellian manufacturing of "Truth"
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/12/former-top-nsa-official-now-police-state.html
William Binney, years before Snowden, sounded the alarm on these ruthless Authoritarians.

rooemoore says

Gee, if it was such a massive conspiracy wouldn't they have photoshoped it to fit the narrative?

No need to Photoshop because Eastman Kodak is all part of the Yinon Zionist conspiracy. The EAST part of Eastman refers to the geographic situation of Israel. Everyone knows that most Jews have "MAN" at the end of their name.

KODAK is close to Kojak. Telly Savalas was a Zionist at heart. All Greeks are.

Then there is the issue of the Zionist who ran the photo printing shop at the CVS in Sandy Hook where Heslin picked up the photo. She is another well known Zionist who is related to the Rockefellers. You know, the ones that want to control Middle East Oil and are the same people involved in the staged Syrian gas attack.

I bet you it was a Yinon Zionist that sold them the gold frame too.

Can't you all see the connections? It's right in front of your eyes.

Strategist says

If the kids are still alive, where are they?

If you want to prove the shooting was a hoax, just prove the kids are still alive.

How about using victim photos of children who are alive and had nothing to do with the "massacre"?
http://www.youtube.com/embed/VEqrUbac2yo

debyne says

I just want you to know that I've got my Reynolds tin foil hat on..

I'm starting a new executive clothing line of beryllium lined tin foil hats custom fitted to the users head. I can see there is huge demand.

marcus says

Are you making any money with your ebook ?

Why do you think he's here?

bgamall4 says

So you got that guys. The aim of Israel is to deceive the Americans after they have deceived all the rest. That is in Israel Shahak's own words, the heroic Jew who translated the Yinon Plan into English.

Wake the fuck up America.

I don't use that word lightly.

Ok I'm awake now. I certainly see how a fake story of an autistic catholic kid shooting up an elementary school in rural ct would further the ambitions of the zionist neocon cabal to break up the arab states and enabling zionist world domination. It all makes perfect sense.

Did you want to buy a hat? I should have production running soon.

Please keep up your invaluable service to patnet. Patnet readers need a laugh in the mornings.

The infamous FOMC meeting............crony capitalism at its best.

Depends on which news agency..

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101280733

bob2356 says

debyne says

I just want you to know that I've got my Reynolds tin foil hat on..

I'm starting a new executive clothing line of beryllium lined tin foil hats custom fitted to the users head. I can see there is huge demand.

HUGE demand. I'm thinking something along the lines of what Magneto wore in XMen.

bgamall4 says

You provide the death certificates of the children. There aren't any, btw.

bgamall, do you ever use Google?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/sandy-hook-elementary-school-massacre-death-certificates-released-article-1.1376084

If this is part of a Zionist conspiracy, answer two questions for me:
1) What do they get out of it?
2) If it is true, then why didn't they get Congress to pass any laws such as registering weapons, background checks, etc? Nothing has been done since Newtown and a lot more weapons over the past year have been put on the streets. If it is a conspiracy, they did a crappy job lobbying.

As for your birth father being Jewish, that doesn't inoculate you against any charges of anti-Semitism. I don't love some of Israel's policies, especially the settlements, but you can still be pro-Israel and disagree. Not everything is some Zionist plot. Your denial of these cute kids being murdered to me is along the lines of Holocaust and Bosnian ethnic cleansing denial. And then you heap on some bs about it being part of a Zionist plot.

As for the kids being in the Super Bowl choir, I can't think of a better place to hide kids than to put them on television in front of 111 million viewers.

Genius, I tell you, genius!

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Pubah Pat, would you sponsor a program like this? If we gave you a piece of the action?

I take it you have some ideas for the concession stands as well?

Funny all the comments here calling Schiff's point blasphemy. Schiff's point is a truism and is crystal clear - how do people not get that?

Papercut says

Funny all the comments here calling Schiff's point blasphemy. Schiff's point is a truism and is crystal clear - how do people not get that?

Agreed.

rooemoore says

Gee, if it was such a massive conspiracy wouldn't they have photoshoped it to fit the narrative?

That's the beauty of conspiracy theories. The perpetrators have to be both geniuses and idiots at the same time.

Robert Sproul says

I don't know what the fuck happened at Sandy Hook.

A crazy gun nut shot some children.

Robert Sproul says

Or on 911.

Some guys from Saudi Arabia highjacked planes and crashed them into buildings.

Anything else you'd like to know?

Homeboy says

Anything else you'd like to know?

Sure.
I don't like to nitpick but, were they State sponsored?
If so who knew about it and when?
Study up on what Brian Williams told you and get back at your leisure.

I don't particularly buy into the scenarios bgmall peddles, but i fully understand that once you internalize the FACT that the supplied narrative is manipulated, (for foreign or domestic policy rationales or opportunism, because of upcoming elections, determined partisan spin, to coverup institutional and departmental ineptitude and error or just 'cause they are pathological secret keepers), you then don't know when you CAN believe them.
About anything, ever.
There is no institution, public or private, that really cares if the general population is truthfully informed.
So people, like Homeboy, that believe that Brian Williams (or Homeboy's secret crush Rachael Maddow) is telling them everything they need to know will always be irritated at someone who, though they may not have access to THE TRUTH, at least retains their skepticism and tries to figure it out.

Also:
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers" -- Thomas Pynchon

Robert Sproul says

I don't like to nitpick but, were they State sponsored?

Sandy Hook, no. Apparently evidence has just come to light that the 911 hijackers were sponsored by people in Saudi Arabia.

Robert Sproul says

If so who knew about it and when?

I guess the Saudis who sponsored it knew about it whenever they decided to sponsor it. Americans knew about it when it was happening. U.S. intelligence had a lot of good clues that it was going to happen, but they pretty much dropped the ball on that.

Any more questions?

Homeboy says

Any more questions?

When you dream about Rachael Maddow is she using a strap-on?

Robert Sproul says

When you dream about Rachael Maddow is she using a strap-on?

No, she's doing scissors. Your comment is actually really weird, since the 911 conspiracy theory is more of a left-wing thing, and while Maddow doesn't seem to believe in it, Randi Rhodes, who is probably even more left wing than Maddow, does.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

But just as a logistical point, can you tell where the disappeared kids went and what or who was actually buried during the funeral services and how the coroners and embalmers who pulled into the conspiracy and kept quiet?

You are usually so right on that i'm mystified why would you actually ask a conspiracy nut like bigmouth to provide logical explanations of all the inconsistancies. That's just silly.

tatupu70 says

No--again, I don't think you comprehend what I wrote. It seems like you have a problem with nuance. What I wrote was that is was a much more complicated issue than you seem to believe and that there were compelling reasons to both bailout GM and to allow GM to go into bankruptcy.

tatupu70 says

See--now this is page one from the trollish playbook.

Page one? I don't think so. A lot more thought went into that insult than just saying, "Duh, you're getting emotional."

Of course mortgage apps. are falling, no one wants to make an offer or have to deal with paperwork to buy a house that's OVERPRICED by 90%.

When you resort to posting lame pictures, you've pretty much given up, huh.

Robert Sproul says

Homeboy says

Any more questions?

When you dream about Rachael Maddow is she using a strap-on?

I think I just leaked a little.

Ducky said: Fed continues QE, gold gets slammed.
In all fairness, they are slowing down the printing presses.

This video presents facts that just can't be true! More importantly, the narrator is f'ing hilarious
http://www.youtube.com/embed/g4d2g9XIFnE