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bgamall4 says

Based on the age difference of the father from his picture to when he testified to congress, the kid in the picture could not have been 6 at Sandy Hook. It looks to me like there is about 20 years difference between Heslin in the picture and Heslin at the hearing with congress.

Does anyone else see this too?

bgamall4 says

Gee, if it was such a massive conspiracy wouldn't they have photoshoped it to fit the narrative?

Maybe the reason he looks old is because the combined stress of losing his child and having heartless dumb-asses like you screaming he's a fraud.

If the kids are still alive, where are they?
If you want to prove the shooting was a hoax, just prove the kids are still alive.

I don't know what the fuck happened at Sandy Hook. Or on 911. (http://nypost.com/2013/12/15/inside-the-saudi-911-coverup/ [yeah, it's the Post. The NYT is just never going to cover this story[)
Neither does bigamall and neither do you tinfoil-hat-mocking-motherfuckers despite your smug credulity.
But you really should try to understand that the narrative that you are being fed on a pretty little hors d'oeuvres tray is really highly manipulated bullshit. The FBI for example lies automatically, systemically, and universally.

Try to get up to speed on Parallel Construction for an example of their total corruption of our judicial system and their complete conscious-less Orwellian manufacturing of "Truth"
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/12/former-top-nsa-official-now-police-state.html
William Binney, years before Snowden, sounded the alarm on these ruthless Authoritarians.

rooemoore says

Gee, if it was such a massive conspiracy wouldn't they have photoshoped it to fit the narrative?

No need to Photoshop because Eastman Kodak is all part of the Yinon Zionist conspiracy. The EAST part of Eastman refers to the geographic situation of Israel. Everyone knows that most Jews have "MAN" at the end of their name.

KODAK is close to Kojak. Telly Savalas was a Zionist at heart. All Greeks are.

Then there is the issue of the Zionist who ran the photo printing shop at the CVS in Sandy Hook where Heslin picked up the photo. She is another well known Zionist who is related to the Rockefellers. You know, the ones that want to control Middle East Oil and are the same people involved in the staged Syrian gas attack.

I bet you it was a Yinon Zionist that sold them the gold frame too.

Can't you all see the connections? It's right in front of your eyes.

Strategist says

If the kids are still alive, where are they?

If you want to prove the shooting was a hoax, just prove the kids are still alive.

How about using victim photos of children who are alive and had nothing to do with the "massacre"?
http://www.youtube.com/embed/VEqrUbac2yo

debyne says

I just want you to know that I've got my Reynolds tin foil hat on..

I'm starting a new executive clothing line of beryllium lined tin foil hats custom fitted to the users head. I can see there is huge demand.

marcus says

Are you making any money with your ebook ?

Why do you think he's here?

bgamall4 says

So you got that guys. The aim of Israel is to deceive the Americans after they have deceived all the rest. That is in Israel Shahak's own words, the heroic Jew who translated the Yinon Plan into English.

Wake the fuck up America.

I don't use that word lightly.

Ok I'm awake now. I certainly see how a fake story of an autistic catholic kid shooting up an elementary school in rural ct would further the ambitions of the zionist neocon cabal to break up the arab states and enabling zionist world domination. It all makes perfect sense.

Did you want to buy a hat? I should have production running soon.

Please keep up your invaluable service to patnet. Patnet readers need a laugh in the mornings.

The infamous FOMC meeting............crony capitalism at its best.

Depends on which news agency..

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101280733

bob2356 says

debyne says

I just want you to know that I've got my Reynolds tin foil hat on..

I'm starting a new executive clothing line of beryllium lined tin foil hats custom fitted to the users head. I can see there is huge demand.

HUGE demand. I'm thinking something along the lines of what Magneto wore in XMen.

bgamall4 says

You provide the death certificates of the children. There aren't any, btw.

bgamall, do you ever use Google?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/sandy-hook-elementary-school-massacre-death-certificates-released-article-1.1376084

If this is part of a Zionist conspiracy, answer two questions for me:
1) What do they get out of it?
2) If it is true, then why didn't they get Congress to pass any laws such as registering weapons, background checks, etc? Nothing has been done since Newtown and a lot more weapons over the past year have been put on the streets. If it is a conspiracy, they did a crappy job lobbying.

As for your birth father being Jewish, that doesn't inoculate you against any charges of anti-Semitism. I don't love some of Israel's policies, especially the settlements, but you can still be pro-Israel and disagree. Not everything is some Zionist plot. Your denial of these cute kids being murdered to me is along the lines of Holocaust and Bosnian ethnic cleansing denial. And then you heap on some bs about it being part of a Zionist plot.

As for the kids being in the Super Bowl choir, I can't think of a better place to hide kids than to put them on television in front of 111 million viewers.

Genius, I tell you, genius!

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Pubah Pat, would you sponsor a program like this? If we gave you a piece of the action?

I take it you have some ideas for the concession stands as well?

Funny all the comments here calling Schiff's point blasphemy. Schiff's point is a truism and is crystal clear - how do people not get that?

Papercut says

Funny all the comments here calling Schiff's point blasphemy. Schiff's point is a truism and is crystal clear - how do people not get that?

Agreed.

rooemoore says

Gee, if it was such a massive conspiracy wouldn't they have photoshoped it to fit the narrative?

That's the beauty of conspiracy theories. The perpetrators have to be both geniuses and idiots at the same time.

Robert Sproul says

I don't know what the fuck happened at Sandy Hook.

A crazy gun nut shot some children.

Robert Sproul says

Or on 911.

Some guys from Saudi Arabia highjacked planes and crashed them into buildings.

Anything else you'd like to know?

Homeboy says

Anything else you'd like to know?

Sure.
I don't like to nitpick but, were they State sponsored?
If so who knew about it and when?
Study up on what Brian Williams told you and get back at your leisure.

I don't particularly buy into the scenarios bgmall peddles, but i fully understand that once you internalize the FACT that the supplied narrative is manipulated, (for foreign or domestic policy rationales or opportunism, because of upcoming elections, determined partisan spin, to coverup institutional and departmental ineptitude and error or just 'cause they are pathological secret keepers), you then don't know when you CAN believe them.
About anything, ever.
There is no institution, public or private, that really cares if the general population is truthfully informed.
So people, like Homeboy, that believe that Brian Williams (or Homeboy's secret crush Rachael Maddow) is telling them everything they need to know will always be irritated at someone who, though they may not have access to THE TRUTH, at least retains their skepticism and tries to figure it out.

Also:
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers" -- Thomas Pynchon

Robert Sproul says

I don't like to nitpick but, were they State sponsored?

Sandy Hook, no. Apparently evidence has just come to light that the 911 hijackers were sponsored by people in Saudi Arabia.

Robert Sproul says

If so who knew about it and when?

I guess the Saudis who sponsored it knew about it whenever they decided to sponsor it. Americans knew about it when it was happening. U.S. intelligence had a lot of good clues that it was going to happen, but they pretty much dropped the ball on that.

Any more questions?

Homeboy says

Any more questions?

When you dream about Rachael Maddow is she using a strap-on?

Robert Sproul says

When you dream about Rachael Maddow is she using a strap-on?

No, she's doing scissors. Your comment is actually really weird, since the 911 conspiracy theory is more of a left-wing thing, and while Maddow doesn't seem to believe in it, Randi Rhodes, who is probably even more left wing than Maddow, does.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

But just as a logistical point, can you tell where the disappeared kids went and what or who was actually buried during the funeral services and how the coroners and embalmers who pulled into the conspiracy and kept quiet?

You are usually so right on that i'm mystified why would you actually ask a conspiracy nut like bigmouth to provide logical explanations of all the inconsistancies. That's just silly.

tatupu70 says

No--again, I don't think you comprehend what I wrote. It seems like you have a problem with nuance. What I wrote was that is was a much more complicated issue than you seem to believe and that there were compelling reasons to both bailout GM and to allow GM to go into bankruptcy.

tatupu70 says

See--now this is page one from the trollish playbook.

Page one? I don't think so. A lot more thought went into that insult than just saying, "Duh, you're getting emotional."

Of course mortgage apps. are falling, no one wants to make an offer or have to deal with paperwork to buy a house that's OVERPRICED by 90%.

When you resort to posting lame pictures, you've pretty much given up, huh.

Robert Sproul says

Homeboy says

Any more questions?

When you dream about Rachael Maddow is she using a strap-on?

I think I just leaked a little.

Ducky said: Fed continues QE, gold gets slammed.
In all fairness, they are slowing down the printing presses.

This video presents facts that just can't be true! More importantly, the narrator is f'ing hilarious
http://www.youtube.com/embed/g4d2g9XIFnE

debyne says

Strategist says

If the kids are still alive, where are they?

If you want to prove the shooting was a hoax, just prove the kids are still alive.

How about using victim photos of children who are alive and had nothing to do with the "massacre"?

Nobody have an explanation for this? Anyone? I really need closure...PLEASE! Strategist...where the hell are you?!?!? I need your wisdom.

I can't believe a gov't conspiracy and mainstream media could disgrace a living child!

http://www.youtube.com/embed/VEqrUbac2yo

Well, I am completely uncomfortable having any kind of an opinion about any Sandy Hook shit.

But, people should be able to understand that there is an enormous amount of ground between thinking that Cheney/Mossad planted thermite and believing the self-serving 911 Commission Report is more of a coverup than a "report"

The corporate media's job is to keep us distracted and to control the boundaries of public discourse. Hence the appellation of "conspiracy nut" to any one that thinks that the we don't yet know who killed JFK.

I wish the more credulous amongst you would explore the Pat Tillman CONSPIRACY. Or the CERTAIN FBI prior knowledge re: OK City.
Or this:
FBI agents, as reported in the NYT, were indeed overseeing the bombers in the '93 WTC bombing. The article, "Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast," reported:
"Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast.

The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad A. Salem, should be used, the informer said.

The account, which is given in the transcript of hundreds of hours of tape recordings Mr. Salem secretly made of his talks with law-enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as in a far better position than previously known to foil the Feb. 26 bombing of New York City's tallest towers. The explosion left six people dead, more than 1,000 injured and damages in excess of half a billion dollars."

They lie about everything all the time because they have no fear of the corporate controlled media, or respect for the American people.

And again:
"If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about the answers" -- Thomas Pynchon

Iwag says

now this idiot is in every thread parroting the lie that prices will be up substantially in 2014

So far the idiot is you who has predicted continuous crashing for the last 5 years and was completely wrong. Meanwhile my house has gotten refinanced which has brought it down on a monthly basis to way below rent costs but also the value has gone up so I was able to secure a 100k home Equity which is laying around waiting to be used :) Meanwhile rents have skyrocketed.
If I had paid attention to your kind I would be royally f-ed now.

But I know...crash is coming...next year...or after next year...or the one after that one..or possibly one more after that one...damn it...a crash WILL COME!!

:)

Merry Xmas!

Robert Sproul says

Well, I am completely uncomfortable having any kind of an opinion about any Sandy Hook shit.

That feeling is what's referred to as cognitive dissonance.

bgamall4 are you saying that no children died and that it was just an elaborate hoax? So all the teachers and staff were in on it? What about the parents and the kids that went to the school? Why was this done to begin with according to you? Who benefits?

bgamall4 says

Papercut says

Funny all the comments here calling Schiff's point blasphemy. Schiff's point is a truism and is crystal clear - how do people not get that?

Schiff is a 1 percent fool. These corporations can afford to pay a little more. Henry Ford paid people to make and buy his cars. Eventually, if the world's workers cannot afford to buy what they make, the world will enter the mother of all depressions.

LOL. Another idiot fooled by old Henry's propaganda. There were more than 15 million copies of Model T made. How many workers did Henry Ford have during the time of Model T? 10,000? 100,000? Even if every single one of Henry's worker bought a Model T, they would have amounted to less than 1% of total production volume. Henry Ford had to pay more because work on his production was BORING! He was talking the talk to stir up restlessness among workers at other carmakers, which had higher production cost. If Henry were alive today, he'd probably lobby for raising minimum wage in order to bankrupt his competitors.

bgamall4 says

If it was not for the internet, MSM would have us all believing that 9/11 was not caused by the neocons and maybe some of their Israeli friends.

Were it not for the Internet, fewer people would waste their money on homeopathy, more would get their children vaccinated, and fewer would get scammed by Alex Jones and similar low-life shysters.

dtbristol says

are you saying that no children died and that it was just an elaborate hoax? So all the teachers and staff were in on it? What about the parents and the kids that went to the school? Why was this done to begin with according to you? Who benefits?

I know you're not asking me, but I'm going to give you my opinion anyway. I don't know what really happened because so much has been hidden from the public. What I do know is that things are not what they seem and there's something definitely fraudulent going on. If the gov't would release the security video and allow an independent investigation, we may be able to actual know what happened. However, that will never happen because the truth was hidden for a reason.

Based on the mere fact that stricter gun laws were implemented in both New York and Connecticut right after Sandy Hook happened are symptoms of real motive, and I do believe that the gov't has every interest in disarming the public for purposes of easier control.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

bgamall4 says

Tony, I don't believe anyone died. It wasn't a false flag, but rather a hoax.

Even if that was true, how do you get a whole town to participate in a hoax that requires them to repeat devastatingly cruel lies about the deaths of their own kids? Who would have any hope of success in asking just one of the parents to participate in this fraud? Even the most sold-out zealot would know no parent could countenance the suggestion of any kid either being harmed or their deaths fictionalized for an amorphous political movement.

Clinton could not keep his Monica affair a secret. How the hell do you convince a whole town?
All it takes is one person to spill the beans and sell their story to the media for $1 million.

So far the idiot is you who has predicted continuous crashing for the last 5 years and was completely wrong. Meanwhile my house has gotten refinanced which has brought it down on a monthly basis to way below rent costs but also the value has gone up so I was able to secure a 100k home Equity which is laying around waiting to be used :) Meanwhile rents have skyrocketed.
If I had paid attention to your kind I would be royally f-ed now.

But I know...crash is coming...next year...or after next year...or the one after that one..or possibly one more after that one...damn it...a crash WILL COME!!

:)

Merry Xmas!

Look at this massive idiot, he is bragging about having a mortgage that he was able to "refinance"! lol

that's great! that's greeaaaaaaaat! hahaha

Merry xmas

Strategist says

Clinton could not keep his Monica affair a secret. How the hell do you convince a whole town?

And then there's Watergate: they couldn't do a simple burglary job on a hotel room without getting caught.

To hear the modern conspiracist tell it, Nixon would have picked up the gray phone (on the White House desk, with the Star of David on the receiver), placed a call to Illuminati Central Ops, and had the burglars quietly released. Reel-to-reel tapes, which self-destruct 5 seconds after play, would have informed the editors and managers of all media outlets to keep schtum. Any uncooperative hotel security or maids, or, in particular, young ambitious reporters with no respect for authority, with big mouths would have been liquidated within hours, à la Three Days of the Condor or The Parallax View.

All Illuminati members connected with the operation, including entire swaths of the CIA, FBI, State Department, and CREEP hierarchies, as well as all their ex-spouses, children, and sex workers, would have kept quiet for the rest of their lives.

This requires a belief in extremely high competence among government officials, which has never been seen in 4,500 years of recorded history. But maybe the Illuminati-Zionists deliberately created that record of incompetence, going back to Imhotep at the time of the Old Kingdom in Egypt. Maybe they are just that good - the preservation of the State of Israel demands nothing less.

Of course, if they are really that good, it would be simpler and cheaper to have just built Israel outright and preserved it over thousands of years, but I guess these devils prefer the hard, roundabout way. Hence the need to fake elementary-school massacres to gain power in a country in which AIPAC already owns the President and Congress.